<a​remor:matrix.org> Wow we really are a small community if it’s not immediately obvious who the ms signers should be.

<a​remor:matrix.org> Whom does core team consist of?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> core wants to do less not more

<a​remor:matrix.org> Maybe they can do less of what they’re doing, but take up key holding.

<a​remor:matrix.org> Maybe we can start by making a list of possibles though

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ccs keys arent passive

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you need to constantly make transactions which is annoying

<a​remor:matrix.org> Establish the duration of key holding terms also. If people think it’ll be too onerous for long term holding

<a​remor:matrix.org> I was concerned about trustworthiness at first, but MS solves that. Doesn’t have to be core members only

<a​remor:matrix.org> Something like a 4 of 7 is possible?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> not really

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you should really try and set up a multisig wallet before you ask 7 people to do it. coordinating 4 people every time a ccs payout needs to be sent would be a nightmare as well

<j​effro256:monero.social> I don't think it HAS to be a nightmare with the right UX

<a​remor:matrix.org> No one does.

<j​effro256:monero.social> Right now doing multisig on the monero-wallet-cli is hellish tho

<a​remor:matrix.org> But that right UX isn’t there currently

<a​remor:matrix.org> I volunteer if it’s really that few willing people. I just doubt I’d be accepted. Someone (plural) has to do it.

<j​effro256:monero.social> After FCMP++ and Jamtis deploy, I was thinking about writing a CCS backend/frontend service from the ground up with actual usable multisig and publicly available outgoing view key history so the multisig key holders are held accountable to outgoing txs

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> that would be cool

<a​remor:matrix.org> That’s a super long way away

<j​effro256:monero.social> yea

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> aremor i think you underestimate how ass the mulitisg UX is right now

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it's way more likely that coins would be lost due to multisig than if the CCS funds were just managed with a trezor wallet

<j​effro256:monero.social> Multisig seeds are gross, the ceremony is gross, syncing key images is gross, passing around partially signed txsets is gross

<j​effro256:monero.social> It gets better after FCMP+Jamtis tho

at the end of tobtohts report for the latest release of feather @ featherwallet.org/changelog focusing on practical multisig lead to delays in maintenance for featherwallet (understandably his main focus)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> so n+2 then i guess

basicswapdex devs have offered to pick up the task / finalise it (if tobbers needs breathing room for his never ending to-do list) OR to use their own tech to create something new from the ground up. i am not sure on the exact details of their approach but they have expressed willingness to help

<a​remor:matrix.org> Need volunteers. And go through a test period with low amount of funds in the wallet.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> youd have to pay me $100 an hour to do multisig transactions multiple times a month

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it is really bad

jeffro256 something for the future: imagine we have a (as mentioned earlier) 4/7 multisig wallet. although its beneficial to have a large pool of signers - we must not forget that plausible deniability increases

<a​remor:matrix.org> Plowsof you can hold a key?

at this point in time, we are not able to know exactly which of the signers 'signed the sweep_all' transaction

so 4 of the 7 may have a slight incentive to collude

<a​remor:matrix.org> And the benefit of having more of the signers not required in order to send is fault tolerance for keys getting lost

so when joining a large Msig group - you could be the patsy

<3​21bob321:monero.social> why would basic swap do it, when their ccs wont get merged

a separate ccs*

<r​brunner7:monero.social> The way I see it, it's pretty easy. We let tobtoht do their thing and patiently wait in the meantime. Any alternative I have read so far, especially today, is worse, sometimes down to the point of laughably so. If tobtoht burns out or simply calls it quits, we have a real problem on our hand, but hey, that's life.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> god i hope the jetfund takes off again

<a​remor:matrix.org> Wow this is really illustrating how few active people there are

<3​21bob321:monero.social> jokes on community

<3​21bob321:monero.social> reactive, not proactive

<r​brunner7:monero.social> What is the "jetfund"?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> that would be the ccs overfunding, hovering around 300 now github.com/plowsof/scrape_ccs_fr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> again?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we just lost +400k and we are already sitting on 300 XMR extra?

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Just a random thought, I think the CCS should be decentralized somehow

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Otherwise one guy has to resist the temptation to steal the whole bag people put their money into

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Just a random thought, I think the CCS should be decentralized somehow (correct me if that's not possible BTW)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> trust me bruh

<3​21bob321:monero.social> jet fund = ccs fund

<3​21bob321:monero.social> cause it took off

<3​21bob321:monero.social> black flight cause no one knew it took off

<3​21bob321:monero.social> and people rolled over and accepted it lmfao

monerobull 100~ extra now, 244 is carried over (never forget!)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the robbery was the intervention needed to cull all the unclaimed old stuff

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> dont you dare carry stuff over

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if mr translation ccs comes back in 4 years just tell them "sorry, you didn't claim for nearly a decade and it got robbed, we aren't your custodian"

lol

mr translations came back after years and didnt put his full address (nor did he send it to anyone on irc/matrix) repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/237#note_21125

hmm, vanity address generator can produce lots of addresses matching what he posted :D

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> >The first 5 digits of my address: 4A63F; the last 5 digits: ZtER1.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> what

sech1 oh no lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we should have a clause saying uncollected funds go to the fucking burn wallet after 2 years

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the burn wallet is crazy btw

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> only has 2 transactions since the very begining

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/yBzqJLTWhvlTzDJdEqhPPwJY

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and i can guarantee you that the first ever tx to that address was woodser testing the haveno punish tx haha

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> Hey everyone I am working on BiorLogin my mobile apps wallet creation method (We will support monero) and wanted to hear everyone's thoughts. I know people in here are very good with tech and security. So I appreciate all ideas and criticism.

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> The idea is simple, use a username x password format to replace seed phrase. We just need to discuss how it will be done on the back end.

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> to access an account a user must have at least 3 pieces

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> Options are:

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> 1- username

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> 2- password

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> 3- second password

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> 4- date of birth

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> 5- OTP code?

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> Users can decide which to activate as long as they have 3 of them. This would protect against brute force since we increase the number of possibilities.

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> Once an account is created we use the information provided to encrypt access to the account. We also cant access it. The only way to decrypt or access an account is by providing the right amount of information and the right information.

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> The goal is to create a more familiar way for users to create and maintain an account. Everyone knows about username x password and everyone knows about security questions

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> Hey everyone I am working on BiorLogin my mobile apps wallet creation method (We will support monero) and wanted to hear everyone's thoughts. I know people in here are very good with tech and security. So I appreciate all ideas and criticism.

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> The idea is simple, use a username x password format to replace seed phrase. We just need to discuss how it will be done on the back end.

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> to access an account a user must have at least 3 pieces

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> Options are:

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> 1- username

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> 2- password

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> 3- second password

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> 4- date of birth

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> 5- TOTP code?

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> Users can decide which to activate as long as they have 3 of them. This would protect against brute force since we increase the number of possibilities.

<o​rion_midast:matrix.org> Once an account is created we use the information provided to encrypt access to the account. We also cant access it. The only way to decrypt or access an account is by providing the right amount of information and the right information.

<n​ononynous:monero.social> Why don't he signs a message with the full address ? Anyone can say "I have this"

<j​effro256:monero.social> Or that they should be automatically allocated to fund new approved proposals

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nah

<j​effro256:monero.social> Before opening funding round to public

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> that gives bad incentives

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nobody can complain about a burn

<j​effro256:monero.social> That incentive already exists when the balance gets high regardless

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can have some real shizo conspiracy shit when you take money from someone and give it to someone else

<j​effro256:monero.social> On the flip side, I'm less willing to donate if I know that my money is going to be thrown into a block hole

<j​effro256:monero.social> It should be expected for R&D to have a high "failure" rate, but that shouldn't necessarily mean that the funds get evaporated

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> not a black hole if the person actually shows up every 2 years or so

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you really cant expect us to hold on to your funds for 5 years

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i think its ridiculous that plow even considers paying the translation guy at this point

<j​effro256:monero.social> Yeah which is why it should be allocated to something useful and the old proposer loses their claim on the funds

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> sorry, we got rugged for 400k, you would have not been affected if you were an active member of the community instead of fucking off for 4 years

<j​effro256:monero.social> Idk the specifics of this case, but I'm not saying that we should hold the funds *for the same person* forever

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but again, that sets bad incentives

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "plow, kill this ccs and fund mine with it"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> is a whole lot different from

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "plow, burn the coins"

burned at the same rate as daily coinbase rewards until we have zero left

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> YES+

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> make monero deflationary

<j​effro256:monero.social> Or create a tx where the entire balance goes into the fee

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can game that

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> plow doesnt broadcast the tx for a year and then mines a 300 XMR block 🤡

<s​trawberry:monero.social> it could be done gradually

<j​effro256:monero.social> Okay then do it slowly and double check that it's broadcasted normally

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nobody can game a tx to 46uVWiE1d4kWJM3aAoCpHVgDCm5higshGVJBb4ZNpTYARp8rLcCdcA1J8QgRfFWTzmJ8QgRfFWTzmJ8QgRfFWTzmCag5CXT

<j​effro256:monero.social> It won't leave a trace on the blockchain, but current nodes can check its broadcatsed

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/OkAaNsFBvHnUoExqCTVwWosG

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btw im intoxicated and shitposting, just in case anyone thinks im being serious

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btw its really funny to load up the GF view only and see scammers scramble

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it's like 2k XMR

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> last time ive checked

<s​trawberry:monero.social> if only view only wallets could be loaded from seeds

<j​effro256:monero.social> This is where an unlock time field like Bitcoin's `nLockTime` would be useful: one could broadcast the tx(s) days or months in advance so all miners know about it(them) floating around beforehand but can't mine them until a specified block number. This can create incentive issues around reorging, but that can be solved by smoothing out the reward and not spiking the reward in a single block

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> monero has some crazy fields

<j​effro256:monero.social> It would be funny if the GUI supported a seed type which opened to the view balance wallet, but the GUI *acted* like it was a full spending wallet until they tried to spend the funds and it gave them goofy ass error messages

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i love how the timelock feature is a shitty copy of the bitcoin one with no real usecase

<s​trawberry:monero.social> no real usecase? what about bankrupting exchanges?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> haha

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they didnt even do that though

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh man

<s​trawberry:monero.social> missed opportunity

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i would have 100% bankrupted them if i had known

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> for the lulz

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> burn a bunch of XMR for 96% in BTC?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> hehe lmao sure

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> although im not sure if i would have had enough liquidity

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> these fuckers / or someone related are probably behind the ddos on monerotown

<s​trawberry:monero.social> who?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> infinity

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its a tor only instant swapper with 4% swap fee

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> their admin came into this chat like 1 or 2 years ago all confused

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> bcs he received $20k in timelocked XMR

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the attacker could have compiled the CLI themself and set the unlock time beyond the heat death of the universe but infinity was lucky and they only locked the coins for 4 years

<s​trawberry:monero.social> oh right, I was more thinking about Binance

<j​effro256:monero.social> you wouldn't need much if you were willing to cycle the coins 1000x

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Hello guys....

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Something really bad has happened to me and I hope you can help me. I'm in a really bad mood right now. I know a lot about IT and I've never really had a virus. Now 2 weeks ago, in a hurry, I downloaded a clone of a program that had a virus on it. I analyzed the virus and from its logs it didn't steal anything bad. But now I still had an unencrypted Monero wallet on my computer wi<clipped message>

<d​unabax:matrix.org> th a total of 10 Monero. These were withdrawn a week ago. So the attacker got hold of it too, even though the logs said otherwise. So the logs are not complete and that sucks.

<d​unabax:matrix.org> My question now is: If the wallet on my Windows computer is unencrypted, can the attacker simply take over my wallet using the Windows files in “ProgramData”, for example? Because if that's not possible, he must have gotten hold of my seed, which is in my password database. And if he got hold of my password database, then everything is screwed anyway. It does have a very long <clipped message>

<d​unabax:matrix.org> password, but maybe he tapped into it. So I need to know whether it's easy to get an unencrypted wallet via the files.

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Thank you...

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> what do you mean by that?

<s​trawberry:monero.social> you could take the resulting BTC, swap back to XMR with a different service, repeat the process

send funds to cat shelter

<j​effro256:monero.social> Send 100 timelocked XMR, swap back into XMR, Send 99 timelocked XMR, swap back to XMR, Send 98 timelocked XMR, etc, ec

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> rip

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> there is malware that is specialized to extract seeds

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh yeah right

<d​unabax:matrix.org> It was no good malware. It was a legal RAT. Thats why it was undetected. But the installation was silent and I allowed the installation because I thought its a different tool. But please tell me if its possible to take over my wallet with just the windows wallet files

<j​effro256:monero.social> Yes if your wallet file is unencrypted, then your seed is unencrypted. If your seed is unencrypted, they can just copy it and take your money

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if it is unencrypted, they can just copy the wallet file to their machine

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and even if its encrypted, if they have a RAT on you, they can keylog your password

<d​unabax:matrix.org> grafik.png

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Can you tell me in which file my seed is? Or what is the wallet file? I want to understand. I see there is a folder "bitmonero" in "ProgramData". Tere are these files

<d​unabax:matrix.org> grafik.png

<j​effro256:monero.social> It will likely be in Documents/Monero if you leave it as default

<j​effro256:monero.social> The bitmonero folder is for the daemon data

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Ah, its in documents, thanks so much

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Fuck, this is so bad. I have like 350 passwords, so much server details and everything. I mean I lost the 10xmr, its also bad, but my passwords are more worth

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> id recommend a trezor safe 3 if you have more than $500 worth of crypto

<j​effro256:monero.social> If your XMR is still in exposed wallet, create a new wallet on a different machine, and transfer it ASAP

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> change them all, right now.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and reinstall windows

<j​effro256:monero.social> Yeah better yet use a Trezor

<j​effro256:monero.social> And change those passwords

<j​effro256:monero.social> jinx

<s​trawberry:monero.social> if your password manager is any good, they might have only got your XMR from the wallet file

<s​trawberry:monero.social> change all passwords regardless

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> id leave a canary wallet with like 1.5 XMR

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if that gets drained, you know its time to nuke everything

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Yeah... I am always using my Trezor, but in this case I was not, I was too lazy I guess

<d​unabax:matrix.org> maybe you are interested where I got the virus: dash-electrum.com This is fake website. I downloaded this wallet. Real domain is with .org....

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> rip

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i once got baited into installing malware but i was smart enough to do it in a VM

<j​effro256:monero.social> Report that site to your search engine

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> fuckers didnt even bother to set their clipboard malware to steal monero 💢

<j​effro256:monero.social> rookies

<d​unabax:matrix.org> That's so ridiculous that I get scammed over something like that. I know very good about crypto and everything. But I was annoyed that a provider only accepts Dash and just wanted to load the wallet quickly

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> would only go for btc / eth / ltc

<d​unabax:matrix.org> yes, vm is smart

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Thank you guys

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> theres one in windows pro

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> theres one included in windows pro

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can get keys for like 4$ on ebay

<d​unabax:matrix.org> you mean vm feature? I am using vmware. There is a new free personal edition since few weeks or months

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> windows sandbox

<system> file grafik.png too big to download (2004262 > allowed size: 1000000)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> grafik.png

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Yeah, this is also nice

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> welp

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 10 XMR is bad

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but it's not 400 ETH

<d​unabax:matrix.org> true haha

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> hope this didn't hit you too hard and please take better care of your security in the future :D

<d​unabax:matrix.org> I will probably follow your advice and change all my passwords. I also received emails after the infection that someone wanted to log into my very large Instagram accounts. But I had ignored it until now as I get these emails every few months. Many people try to hack into large Instagram accounts. These mails are normal

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> recently someone tried to log into my tiny personal instagram i havent used for like half a decade so i understand haha

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i like bitwarden

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if you have an azure subscription you can also set up vaultwarden very cheaply

<d​unabax:matrix.org> oh, okay. I am a keepassxc user! :D

<d​unabax:matrix.org> and I sync my keepass file with Nextcloud

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> recently azure has grown on me

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> youre telling me this link just sets up the entire thing and i dont have to do shit? portal.azure.com/#create/Microsoft.…ltwarden-azure%2Fmaster%2Fmain.json dayum

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Are you using any 2nd factor key? Like yubikey for example. Or just a long master password?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> aegis is great

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Yes, I am also using aegis. But I think it will not work with keepass. But its nice, that bitwarden support this 2nd factor way

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btw if you have a trezor, use a passphrase and dont save it anywhere

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> like, at all

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> is it risky? sure. is it super secure? hell yeah

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Just write the passphrase with a black light pen on your wall or door lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> threre is a meme for this

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Why do you have the Firefox logo in the eyes of your avatar?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> kek

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the avatar is first gen AI

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/vYAgIWABztcdfXdiPnWTrafJ

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> pre-NAI was crazy

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/iUxqwDkopFGMXqVdGUfeMuTC

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> september 2022

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this was the best you could get out of a model

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nowadays doesnt even compare

<d​unabax:matrix.org> then its time to change your avatar!

<d​unabax:matrix.org> cyberpunk style

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah mabye

<system> file 00053-3847022287.png too big to download (1088714 > allowed size: 1000000)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 00053-3847022287.png

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah maybe

<d​unabax:matrix.org> ok

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i havent kept up with image generation all that much

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> been more interested in LLMs

<d​unabax:matrix.org> are you running your own LLMs?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i did for some time

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but my gpu is not that powerfull

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if i need to actually be productive i just use chatgpt or llmyss

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if i need to actually be productive i just use chatgpt or llmsys

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> arena.lmsys.org

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if i need to actually be productive i just use chatgpt or lmsys

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> on direct chat you can use very powerful models for free with no signup

<d​unabax:matrix.org> the arena is really nice

<d​unabax:matrix.org> I am using chatgpt since month, but just the api with my own tool. Because I dont want to pay $20 a month for the newest model and I dont want to have limits

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> kek

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/qCWGEpBRPzLQDLihTpbIfici

<d​unabax:matrix.org> ok, its not chatgpt, its the GPT api. And the price for gpt-4o is really fair

<d​unabax:matrix.org> lol

<d​unabax:matrix.org> great answer haha

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/WzAlwhdzGIvlDbxemnfHXudv

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> well

<d​unabax:matrix.org> nice clone, just use git clone lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this shit is too good

<d​unabax:matrix.org> is this chatgpt?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nah its sonnetz

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nah its sonnet

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> from claude ai

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "create a html site to wager on the title for the next battlefield"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/WMfYKrvrFczyXlLhoYwhNALR

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this looks better than any html site i could ever come up with

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the fucking 5% house edge lmao

<d​unabax:matrix.org> yeah, this is cool

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> LLMs came at the perfect time for me

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they make my job a lot easier but they dont replace me

<d​unabax:matrix.org> they answer with a .html file? Or just the code? Or does it show the html page directly in the chat?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ```

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> <!DOCTYPE html>

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> <html lang="en">

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> <head>

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<d​unabax:matrix.org> LEAK of the Battlefield Title Wager project, nice

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/NNWsLrUMTYNmduOpiOzbvqsi

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this shit will kill so many jobs

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> normies wont even know what hit them

<d​unabax:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/tPHPEsXvGCJNFXiEOaOwVrgy

<d​unabax:matrix.org> wtf

<d​unabax:matrix.org> yeah, its strong

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And this is the worse it will ever be

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/IqJRPULRYCMIPTesTQRZQVCY

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> dont get me wrong, im all for accelerating.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but it will be terrible for +85% of the population

<d​unabax:matrix.org> Yes, send me more memes. I need entertainment when I'm up all night changing my 300+ passwords

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> haha

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> god i hope ill never get compromised

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i really dont feel like changing all these passwords

<d​unabax:matrix.org> If that should happen, I will be happy to do it for you 😇

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> kek

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i dont have any valuable logins

<d​unabax:matrix.org> I take the opportunity to change the passwords that do not consist of at least 16 characters. Sometimes I actually still use normal passwords with names and things like that. Just for unimportant logins

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> why though

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the only time i adjust my pw generation is when a service has some silly rule like nO 60 LeTtEr pW

<d​unabax:matrix.org> if you use a different easy password for each service it might be okay, but when you just use 1-5 different passwords, its not good. And I am not creative enough to have 300 own custom passwords lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> please just use bitwarden

<d​unabax:matrix.org> yes, or keepassxc