<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 463 before this one

plowsof: I guess it's accurate if you think about it from the perspective of easiness of use. (??)

definitely not accurate in the sense of it being all backdoored and disabled for the UK government!

Unless... your true bosses actually know everything about XMR!

syntheticbird: lol. redlib.zaggy.nl/r/Monero/comments/1…wsletter/memhodi/?context=3#memhodi

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> >Apple of crypto

<p​reland:monero.social> Tbh I’d rather it be the Boeing of currency than the Apple of crypto

<p​reland:monero.social> Monero isn’t going to ever get anywhere if it’s best achievement would be “beating the competition”….where the competition is dogwifhat 🤡

rotten: i tried to release it, but there is an auto timeout of 90 mins after someone tries to start a trade. we'll have to do it when both online. DM me when you are around.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> is the payout list public or internal?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Secret like the football

midipoet: active at the moment? taking a smoke break soon here. :P

spirobel kinda. Open repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…rge_requests?scope=all&state=merged and see last comment activity on most, payout requests should be available in there.

or you can just wrench attack plow and steal the raw list from him.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> dukenukem LMAO

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> imagine a world where there is a way to get notifications when people comment on a gitlab repo - this is the world i live in - i then copy the url of the comment if it's a payout request and place it in the secret list

rotten: you still around? (only seeing this now)

midipoet: still around right now, sir.

syntheticbird meow.

thx 4 payout ser. luigi1111 forwarding to Russian mob right away before finger gets cut off.

praised be the gods, another day with 10 fingers!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> meds quic

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> meds quick*

"havino" lol.

midipoet: or a scammer calling you scammer on IRC, in -community...

what are the odds, really?

lol

midipoet: started trade.

accept sar.

this guy... asks me to open trade then goes MIA.

anyone good with PGP wants to test xmrglobal.io with me?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bro took 40mins to respond, now whining about a 20min response

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bro needs to learn patience and how to DM

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Bro

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i forgot

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i forgor 💀

syntheticbird why does that guy keep my dick in his mouth all the time?

have you noticed?

he can't pass a day without bitching about me. it's called being attracted to someone.

"The messages are encrypted with the partner's PGP key, only they can read the messages."

I like this.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bro, you dont have a dick. Stop the cap

turns out xmrglobal will encrypt all messages you send to your counterpart using that person's PGP key and it will show the PGP encrypted message block, even if you just send: "syntheticbird is a larper."

nice. big fat pgp blocks everywhere.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> If xmrglobal.io can really pay up the contributor amount, I don't think it's qtip. Probably someone else who uses AI but that's fine as long as it works.

5.2k!

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Yeah that doesn't throw around

meh, it isn't like they're paying the 10k... but yes, 5k isn't peanuts either.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Qtip has 5k

damn, even the wallet address is PGP signed on XMRGlobal...

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Good we'll recoup what we lost then! :D

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Got 17k from his ccs milestone

definitely not a platform for mainstream adoption and constant usage like LocalMonero. UI is clunky around the edges, but this whole PGP workflow is refreshing.

many comrades from the deep seas will find the similarities. ;D

Why do we think it's always bad if people use AI?

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Welp. He's not gonna make back that 5k any time from trades on xmrglobal.io.

And what did XMR Global use AI for?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i ont think xmrglobal is qtip

I don't either

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> he's not competent enough to even spin up a haveno network that builds

<s​iren:kernal.eu> That would be a long term investment for his platform

It's actually quite a nice flow. I used localmonero a fair bit in the past, and it's comparably user-friendly. There are even some things it does better. Though there are some bugs still.

midipoet: "Your withdrawal request has been sent successfully!"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> But i dont trust xmrglobal any more than I trust localmonero.me

Status: "Waiting approval"

I had to decrypt a PGP message, get a 2FA code and put it in before confirming withdrawal. PGP-wise, workflow is flawless.

Spare me with the UI whining, the stuff works so far.

Mine says "Send" now (after manual reload). Should be "Sent" or "Approved".

Feather sees it

Indeed.

These are UI quirks, feature-wise global fucks.

So i guess "clever scam" at worst, "nice new site that's still a bit buggy" at best

still waiting approval...

"turns out xmrglobal will encrypt all messages you send to your counterpart using that person's PGP key and it will show the PGP encrypted message block" -- so they get the cleartext at first... no bueno

^ probably true

NorrinRadd: true that. should encourage to manually encrypt and optionally offer an option to tick if you want server-side clear text encryption with pairs PGP keys.

instead of having server-side be the default.

But Local Monero also got all cleartext (as i remember)

that's how they honeypot xanax bar heads!

LM wasn't ever open source and always claimed messaging was encrypted, but that was only you trusting their word for it.

safest will always be to _manually_ decrypt and encrypt PGP, like I did, right-click brat! :P

OK, it updated to `Send`. Checking wallet recent txs. now.

syncing...

yup, 2 confirmations and counting, I see it in my wallet.

global not a scam confirmed.

because rug pulls never took months to happen before

said no one ever.

OK. Server-side PGP encryption of plain text, no bueno. Suggestion: add option for user to tick if they *want* you to get plain text messages and for you to encrypt server-side, to then offer counterparty PGP encrypted message block. Encourage manual decrypt/encrypt of plain text, agnostic from XMRGlobal workflows.

anyway, i enjoyed the process. If anything, rotten scammed me for my XMR.

midipoet: try a sweep all (withdraw all you got in your custodial wallet now.)

_then_ all our XMR will be safu.

7 confs. I can send back if need be. they took a 0.005 fee.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> xmrglobal is fucking illegal darknet site with a 'dread' i advise nobody use it

... /s?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bro needs to give us the play by play

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> when 8 cons

rotten: why? In case they timelocked it?

midipoet: no, just to make sure all XMR is fully out before claiming it is not a scam for sure.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Ngl it would be funny if Monero Africa rugpulled like this

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> FiatDemise ruined moneroafricas life

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He's been real quiet since demise called him a scammer

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> but to be fair, bro told me that a days pay was $10, and you could feed like 30 people with like $40 or smthn.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Then he was given 6xmr, and then asked for more

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> so i asked him where the fluck the 6xmr went. He said he bought a laptop, but posted some pic that was pulled from google or smthn

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i did not know MoneroAfrica had interacted with xmrlgobal as early as december x.com/MoneroAfrica/status/1871214998778958068 xcancel.com/MoneroAfrica/status/1871214998778958068

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i noticed this after scrolling, scrolling, ai image, scrolling scrolling scrolling through xmrglobals twitter

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> the cat is out the bag with localmonero source / spin off sites

i don't know why anyone here would entertain the idea of anything like that being legit.

you sound like monerobull

centralized, black box backend == deal breaker

it's that simple

guarding their haveno revenue stream

not everyone is an enemy

smh

<m​onerobull:monero.social> for shame, use haevno

<m​onerobull:monero.social> for shame, use haveon

people getting scammed degrades the entire industry

this will continue to be fake money as long as people keep getting scammed

<m​onerobull:monero.social> duck you midi, i dont gain anything from shilling Haveno other than a slightly more liquid fiat ramp

any idiot knows that

has to be trolling

<m​onerobull:monero.social> yet he is suggesting that i run it, there is no detectable sarcasm in what he wrote

except it's a ludicrous idea

monerobull: i know you don't run haveno.

That's not what i was suggesting.

You misinterpreted the statement.

Perhaps you don't sell on haveno, and i am mistaken. If so, ignore me.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> > you sound like monerobull

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> > guarding their haveno revenue stream

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> that sounds like i run it

<s​iren:kernal.eu> They made bracelets together 🥹

monerobull: why do you believe that i would think you run haveno?

Seriously

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> trauma from kewbit

"not everyone is an enemy" - the most naive shit i've seen in weeks

we're literally talking about money

< NorrinRadd> centralized, black box backend == deal breaker

Hmm...

LocalMonero was around since like 2015.

the exception, not the rule

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<s​iren:kernal.eu> 1000012171.gif

Nobody was whining and claiming it was all a honeypot!

not everyone is alex

ah, now we are Alexliebers. Missed that memo.

and there's literally no reason to expect anyone to be

Anyone could've scammed us, but not Alex LocalMonero!

Clown.

past tense

he didn't

it's not a question

cool story.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> alex didnt scam anyone lol

Yes. Yes we are talking about money. money, as a medium of exchange, does not work correctly if you believe everyone is an enemy. there is an element of trust in almost every monetary transaction, at some layer. If you don't believe that, then fine, it's up to you. But if everyone is an enemy to you, you must lead a pretty damn lonely life.

nobody's claiming alex scammed anyone?

time to check the braincells again?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> so what are we discussing here

you tell us?

yes. Please do

midipoet: i'd like your seed phrase. i'm not your enemy

trust me bro

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> there 100% are people in monero id trust with my entire networth

lmfao.

anyways...

NorrinRadd: i have engaged with plenty of services over the years that maintained custody of my seed phrase. For the most part, it's been ok. Fancy that.

i've never been robbed before. therefore crime doesn't exist.

all that shit on the news is lies

I am not saying there aren't enemies. Just that not everyone is. Do you understand the difference?

non-zero. therefore, why fuck around?

why entertain non-sense

flat out stupidity to entertain telling folks to use some black box service

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> even alex told people to use haveno

lol

jesus christ.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> tale as old as time 'This is a new service, proceed with caution'. looks to have been tested and is functional (with a bit of downtime here and there)

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> to increase trust of new services do not advertise them like kewbit would

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> and pay more than haveno does to shill it , simple really

NorrinRadd: would you trust a ledger or trezor hardware wallet? (honest question)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> :<m​idipoet> NorrinRadd: i have engaged with plenty of services over the years that maintained custody of my seed phrase." lmao #bybit #mtgox idiotpoet

midipoet: no i don't. data leaks and not enough secure elements. i haven't seen their latest products, but those were my original reasons. plus any hw has "here is the money" written on it.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > <m​idipoet> NorrinRadd: would you trust a ledger or trezor hardware wallet? (honest question) << i only trust ledger recovery tm

midipoet: do you still think I am that jerk?

s/hw/commerically\ branded\ hw/

Or was that already clarified by his non-stop stupidity?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bros just spent like 2hrs using -community to document every step, status change and network confirmation. Ridiculous

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> whats next, an excited @monero tweet>l?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> WERE **EXCITED** TO ANNOUNCE THAT @XMRGLOBAL HAS SPONSORED MONEROKON AT THE CONTRIBUTOR LEVEL

not reading all that lol.

midipoet/15

fuck

midipoet: no need to churn, as long as you start with say, 1 xmr and you ended up with 1 xmr - whatever you "sold" to me, that shows they aren't taking any hideous fees in between.

up to you if I keep the $20 worth for beers money or you want it back. :P

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> @midipoet and skunkwheel, when will you start using and promoting localmonero.me?

if you want the picos back, drop addy bb. ended up being ~0.145 after their 0.005 XMR fee.

please, for god's sake, someone make the cockroach shut the fuck up.

NorrinRadd: do you normally boil your cellphone in the microwave too?

ExTrA OpSeC bRo.

"not enough secure elements" lmfao.

how many secure elements does your laptop have. 9?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You a DM! rodentwheel

9 if needed to store my net worth in it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> This is a workgroup, not "watch me livestream my first xmrglobal trade"

NorrinRadd: interesting!

are you a billionaire?

laptop == $3000..... so probably not 9

what laptop are we buying that is worth 3k?

google can help you with that

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> rotten bro, stfu.

isn't Google another honeypot?

you know, collecting lookup queries and all. plaintext!

dukenukem: as much as xmrglobal? doesn't look like you care

oh! I am testing the website because I absolutely give no fucks about it at all! How did you figure?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Should change room name to "rottens personal troll room / live stream / public dm box"

Is that billionaire braincells speaking now?

i spend hours on shit i dont care about. oh ok

the sarcasm went right past your left ear and you didn't even notice.

must be the fat stacks of crispy, 100 dollar bills.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Monero Offtopic

NorrinRadd: are there Google Pixel phones with extra Titan M secure element chips out there? I figure the OEM single Titan secure element wouldn't suffice for your sophisticated threat model...

How many secure elements can a high-end smartphone run in 2025?

So each secure element protects the encrypted secret of the other until it decrypts your actual data? Militar grade encryption protocols!

"Militar grade encryption protocols!" exactly. if it's possible, why not? why do stupid shit?

ok.

<u​ser2570:unredacted.org> xcancel.com/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1894427559196004548

<j​effro256:monero.social> Gustavo Ring

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> can you not

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/gKMjkeCBGOWRxPbgYbBYTDTY

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> there isn't even a link here

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> what a garbage post

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Excited about diamonds

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> should do a reverse Google img search to see where the bot/troll found the pic

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Mine monero to get diamonds

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 5k ?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Trust me IMA keep it safe

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Bad opsec

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> debruyne is actively griefing D:

I know for a fact that diamonds exist in real life so this is likely not a scam

huh.

(does anyone have a reddit link for context)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof, i also know for a fact that enchanted diamond chestplate are the best armor available, yet I see them nowhere

how can you "know for a fact" if you can't see the thing?

ha! gottem.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> god told me

you also "know for a fact" that god "exists"?

god is tangible then?

lol, poor deb. redlib.zaggy.nl/user/dEBRUYNE_1

syntheticbird: qtip's alt doesn't know what a crapto NFT domain is, it seems... redlib.zaggy.nl/r/Monero/comments/1…ling_xmr/mer37w6/?context=3#mer37w6

it's just for sending and receiving crapto, you dork. what ICANN.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i dont know why tf he does that

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we have pre-sets that automatically mark the post as removed and add a comment

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but no, he just writes a comment and then i have to later remove it from the mod queue D:

<u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Yes the link is missing.

<u​ser2570:unredacted.org> But you can: xmrbazaar.com/listing/UfeC

<j​effro256:monero.social> You forgor netherite

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> zamn i forgor

<u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Yes the link is missing.

<u​ser2570:unredacted.org> But you can: xmrbazaar.com/listing/UfeC

<u​ser2570:unredacted.org> xcancel.com/DouglasTuman/status/1894145352690806835

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Monero devs where body armour ?

monerochan when?

<m​idipoet:matrix.org> You seem to be implying that you can't/shouldn't engage with any service that maintains a wallet for you?

<m​idipoet:matrix.org> That's just not practical, in my opinion.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Maintain your own. People have phones and pcs

midipoet basement-dwelling larpers live in their own echo chamber and want everyone to live by their guidelines.

"not enough secure elements" lol.