<r​brunner7:monero.social> #voteofrn: "Node runners dont get to vote" That may be true in a strictly technical sense, but highly misleading IMHO. Imagine that 95% or all current Monero users flat-out refuse to update to the new hardforked release and refrain from making any new Monero transactions, out of protest from something the devs implemented against the clearly stated will of the users.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> That will be a highly unstable situation, and I guess in almost no time the miners will accept the reality of the decision of the *users* and continue to mine on the old chain.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> core is way to chill for something like that to happen

<q​8monero:matrix.org> is it me or pools did not do payouts today ?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> use p2pool

<q​8monero:matrix.org> hello monerobull, am uing XMRig + p2pool

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> cool

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> p2pool.observer will show you the payouts

<q​8monero:matrix.org> thanks!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> p2pool.io/mini/#pool

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> for mini

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> not sure who owns p2pool.io though

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i only knew of .observer before

<q​8monero:matrix.org> i was looking at p2pool.uk too (testing phase)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> be sure to take part in the raffle

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> xmrvsbeast.com/p2pool

<q​8monero:matrix.org> will check it now

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this stuff basically trippled my payouts

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> although i havent mined in like 2 years

<q​8monero:matrix.org> ouh, can i ask why ? just out of question

<m​onerobull:monero.social> power is too expensive

<m​onerobull:monero.social> i reached my goal of mining my own block

<m​onerobull:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/bAeBlggvfBOcHWsHFDnVMrUd

<q​8monero:matrix.org> sounds challenging :)

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @monerobull:monero.social: if my goal was not making profit from mining it self rather than wait for xmr to go up, is it worth it ?

<q​8monero:matrix.org> while having monero out of mining i mean

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i mined to support the network and because i wanted my own block

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> although i did mine with p2pool

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> because it still gave me payouts for the entire year it took me to find the block

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and extra ones bcs of the raffle

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if you want to get it anon, this can work

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but its going to be slow / not very efficient at all

<q​8monero:matrix.org> well, am new here and new to monero, so am loving this community so far, am making a monero hoddie :)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> better to take the money youd spend on power and just buy the XMR directly

<q​8monero:matrix.org> i would love to know what happened if i get my own block

<q​8monero:matrix.org> and am checking the ruffle

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: yeah am buying xmr too

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it shows up like you solo-mined it in the gui wallet but you of course still only get your share of the payout

<q​8monero:matrix.org> hmm

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats what i said

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Ffs, my remote PC just crashed because I opened wiztree while cuprate was syncing

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Now I'll have to drive home to turn it back on 😭

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh damn it recovered

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> id like to give a shoutout to rustdesk for recovering from 100% OS disk usage

<p​awism:frei.chat> Bring back the soviet union so the focus of politics can shift away from culture to class to economics again please!

you can limit resource usage for your services to avoid crashes

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: i just synced a mobile wallet with my desktop (monero + cake wallet) now i have dff amount in each wallet..

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> did you sync them from the same height?

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: yes i wash shocked i have extra 5 mxr diff

q​8monero: cake gave me wrong balance before. Try a full resync

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you should probably re-scan. you can also try sending the whole balance to yourself

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @m-relay:monero.social: damn i was happy for a moment, i did try to sync again same result

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> try sending everything to your own address

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it will probably fail

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: i made it read-only i will try it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no wait

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> read only wallets are not a bug

<q​8monero:matrix.org> hmm

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> so this is expected

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> basically, the read only wallet does not know when you spend coins

<q​8monero:matrix.org> :( i though i became rich lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and if you send 5 monero "coins" but your wallet only has one 10 monero coin, you get the 5 XMR back in change

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: am sad now lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> so that normal transaction spending 5 XMR looks like you receive 5 XMR in a view only wallet

<q​8monero:matrix.org> ill try to resend my self now

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah the balance will look even higher if you do that haha

a view-only wallet is useful only to monitor incoming transactions. For simple usages, like probably yours, better just make a normal wallet

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> there will be outgoing viewkeys after the next hardfork

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> so those will show the correct wallet balance

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: traveling hope went to a thin air lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> sorry for ruining this haha

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> sorry to burst your bubble like that haha

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @m-relay:monero.social: yes this is my point so no need to go home and check how much a made

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: no worries am learning its benifits me

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i think everyone got pranked like this at least once

<q​8monero:matrix.org> bye bye swiss :~)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> next time youll get pranked is by the different accounts

<q​8monero:matrix.org> ouh!!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> as in: you open your wallet and it says 0 💀

<q​8monero:matrix.org> hope its not the devs prank

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and then you realize you just need to switch the account

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nah this is just when you expect one thing and its different

<q​8monero:matrix.org> better delay some future projects lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/bSKBUgfRftACNczOVFxdYjng

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> what i mean is this

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> right now #1 is selected so it will show balance of #1 in the top

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but if you select #2 or #3, close the wallet and forget, you might get shocked when opening it again haha

<q​8monero:matrix.org> ouh

<q​8monero:matrix.org> i still have the primary one, did not open other one

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah you dont really need them usually

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they are still very useful though

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> for example, my dad wanted to buy some monero so i put it in its own account

<q​8monero:matrix.org> i just re-full synced the wallet same diff

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> so i dont have to remember how much he bought, the coins are in his account and they dont get mixed with the rest of the wallet

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah, this is 100% just the viewkey thing

<q​8monero:matrix.org> hmm am learning everyday

<q​8monero:matrix.org> angilena jolie must wait for me next year i guess

<q​8monero:matrix.org> making a joke once a while won't hurt anyone i guess

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> use subaccounts -> have balance on subacct -> restore seed into a wallet that doesn't support subacct

<q​8monero:matrix.org> 🤣

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> = confusion

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> should it not still show up?

<q​8monero:matrix.org> totallu

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> arent subaccounts just coin-controlled subaddresses?

<q​8monero:matrix.org> totally

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No, they have a diff acct index

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> so instead of 0,1 its 1,1

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i see

ok folks next article is ongoing. I moved to a later post the haveno & funding subject. Where do Monero peeps meet nowadays? Is anyone using bluesky or metaverse? #monero on mastodon is mostly dead or spam

<s​iren:kernal.eu> ErCiccione: xmr.social

lemmy is cool. Who manages it?

ah it's monero.town lol. Not looking forward to get doxxed :P

<s​iren:kernal.eu> It's not monero.town 😉

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> erc doesnt understsand distributed systems

ah yeah i opened both tabs and switched without realising it. Who is managing it?

(provocation number 1 from monerobull)

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Kewbit is managing it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Literally 4 messages above

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> >Not looking forward to get doxxed :P

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> erc is a laser projector

maybe you miss some info monerobull. SInce you manage an instance, if i register on that instance you can record my ip and other metadata and i don't have another lemmy account at the moment

so, provocations and usual haerassment from a mod aside. Who is managing that instance?

<s​iren:kernal.eu> MagicMike the rust developer

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i can record your IP and other metadata by you just visiting the site you moron

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> > so, provocations and usual haerassment from a mod aside.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> your provocations arent subtle man

and there is the first insult of the day.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> > so, provocations and usual haerassment from a mod aside.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> your provocations arent subtle man

<e​longated:matrix.org> What do you expect

you literally started talking only to insult me man. Just shut the fuck up and you'll see how things improve

you literally comment at everything i say with an insult or a provocation. Just go back to your kndergarden and let me be ffs

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you suggested id doxx anyone within 2 messages my guy

no, i said that i wouldn't trust to join anything you control for the fear of getting doxxed since i know you have no ethic. Jesus christ one has to explaint stuff to you bit by bit. Just leave me alone ffs

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh i have "ethic"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i know you are literally just a sellout

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its pathetic

yeah yeah. Say something providing a source for a claim o keep debating like a toddler would

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> someone offered me 50k for moenrosupplies customer data

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i bet youd have taken that

so you chose the toddler way i see

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i told them to fuck off and that i delete all data as soon as i dont need it anymore

do you need me for this conversation?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no, we dont need you. you were asked to leave multiple times already.

so your point is "everybody hates you!". keep going. I love this mature conversations. I bet you have a girlfriend but she's from another school

stop wasting my time bating me to interact with you

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> kek

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Hmm

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> disappointed that the show is over? 😂

<s​iren:kernal.eu> I mean he comes here every once in a while to talk about how he's gonna make a post and tries to get a reaction, then rage quits saying stop wasting my time

ehm. Didn't quit. I asked a question and was hoping to get an answer from somebody without toxicity or insults. I was wrong

and haven't been here sinced i left all chats and gave away my powers. But sure, whatever you say

<a​remor:matrix.org> Fucking drama queen

btw so you know, i don't plan to go anywhere :)

<a​remor:matrix.org> Every fucking morning, woe is me, y’all picking on me. Everyone look, I’m a victim

so do you know how you stop a drama queen? You starve them ofattention so they leave. You should all try that out

<a​remor:matrix.org> Attention whore

never interact with them in any way and they'll go away

or sure keep the insults coming

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Or you can kick them 🤷‍♂️

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "or sure keep the insults coming" << plowsof, erc is threatening people !!

<d​etherminal:monero.social> another day another monero drama

<a​remor:matrix.org> Another day, the same old drama queen

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (if rotten said that to erc, erc would have banned him for threats. True story)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway, go make your reddit / lemmy post, and stfu

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Youre turning into end*genic

<a​remor:matrix.org> I can’t tell the difference

<a​remor:matrix.org> Same old depressing bs every time they pop up

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Another day, same* erc* drama.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Inclusion

<3​21bob321:monero.social> We allow snow flakes, that doesn't like symbols

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Probably avoids them in passwords too

<q​8monero:matrix.org> is everything is ok ? pools are not doing payouts ?

<e​longated:matrix.org> Which pool ?

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: monerodevs.org and xmrvsbeast

🤨

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monerodevs.org pool? Where where

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:monero.social: node2.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> theres a pool on node2.monerodevs.org?

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: yes got payouts yesterday from it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What are you trying to say

<q​8monero:matrix.org> why iam being scared right now. its in gupax i was mining , so its says am connected to that pool\

<q​8monero:matrix.org> a node sorry

<q​8monero:matrix.org> still learning

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> q8monero matrix.to/#/#xmrvsbeast:monero.social

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> monero.town/c/xmrvsbeast

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if you are mining to the regular p2pool, it can take a while

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: thanks!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i used to find 1 share every couple of days

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can use p2pool mini if you want more frequent payouts

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> youll find more shares but when you do, it is more likely that the pool wont find a block while your share is in the window

definitely consider using a local node - mining using a remote node is not the best method

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: yeah figured, gupax says i found 20 shares since yesterday with now payouts

<q​8monero:matrix.org> maybe i got used to getting pay outs every 6 hours

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i preferred mining to the big p2pool because every few days i would get a share and then get a bunch of rewards all at once

<q​8monero:matrix.org> main chain you mean ?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i liked that a whole lot more than finding p2pool mini shares that then barely miss a payout :P

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> there is p2pool and p2pool mini

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> maybe its called main in gupax, dont remember

<q​8monero:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: yes am doing a p2pool mini

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Note that popular remote nodes may or may not be under attack, and unable to efficiently service you