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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> THORChain has an admin? 😱
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> I left a reply. The proposal lacks technical details to justify itself and also requests funds for a non-FOSS wallet.
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<hbs:matrix.org> I thought black protocol, not THORChain, was supposed to get Monero support
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> I remember THORChain was supposed to get monero but they nuked the idea years ago
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<321bob321> Compliance issues or something
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<kevino:tchncs.de> @kevino:tchncs.de: August 2022
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<hbs:matrix.org> @kevino:tchncs.de:
gitlab.com/blackprotocol/blacknode
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> I'm still shocked in how that's "black" as in "black people".
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> > Wakanda Vault
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<monerobull:matrix.org> nonono its black as in privacy D:
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<monerobull:matrix.org> the wakanda references are just a coincidence just like how thorchain is nordic themed D:
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"memes" folder, obviously
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<321bob321> Borderline
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> 'It's not black as in black people, it just uses terminology from a fictional black nation for its branding'
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> -- monerobull, 2025
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<monerobull:matrix.org> hey you cant quote me on that
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i was obviously using advanced rhetorical techniques
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> I just did :C
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<monerobull:matrix.org> D:
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<testtank:matrix.org> > <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] TC Admin opened merge request #619: xmr-support-thorchain
repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/619
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<testtank:matrix.org> I’m no one in the community so i understand that my opinion might not mean much, but i don’t understand why monerobull felt the need to leave a comment where he just shits on thorchain and leaves no constructive feedback, like what does the community gain from that? Do you not want monero to have as much liquidity as possible?
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<testtank:matrix.org> See in contrast kaya response
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<testtank:matrix.org> Didn’t you sell 75% of your moneros at the bottom?
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<testtank:matrix.org> @testtank:matrix.org: (Jk)🫶
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<hbs:matrix.org> @testtank:matrix.org: mb is not a seller
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i have to disappoint, i think PoW in its current form cant survive against a serious attacker and have significantly reduced my holdings to account for my new risk tolerance
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> monerobear
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i am hyper bullish on XMR but i dont like having the Sword of Damocles hovering above my entire networth
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<monerobull:matrix.org> one tiny $10M government contract with AWS could roll back Monero by days, if not weeks and totally fuck trust in the network
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<hbs:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: I understand, Qubic seems like a way better investment these days
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i hold the worst shitcoin of all, the USD
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<hbs:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: I just checked CMC, very little price action those last 10 years
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @monerobull:matrix.org: "i .. have significantly reduced my holdings to account for my new risk tolerance"
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> is in direct contrast to "hyper bullish"
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<monerobull:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: ill move back into XMR when we found a solution for this problem
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<hbs:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: Shall we call you usdbull until that time?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> tldr: monerobear
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<monerobull:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: its down like 20% against the euro
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Can't have it both ways
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You're free to be bearish, but don't pretend to be a bull when you're a bear
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i can remain hyper bullish without literally being all-in on monero
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<monerobull:matrix.org> its just risk management
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<testtank:matrix.org> Can you?? Do you really want monero to go +5k$ after selling most of your holdings
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<testtank:matrix.org> Can you?? Do you really want monero to go +5k$ after selling most of your holdings
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<testtank:matrix.org> I have sold many stocks right before they pumped and i can tell you it’s not a nice feeling
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<monerobull:matrix.org> ill get it back from serai
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<monerobull:matrix.org> its more risky to get wiped out by the $10M multi day reorg than losing out on some gains
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wen serai
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<monerobull:matrix.org> with xmr at $5k id still be sitting pretty
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<monerobull:matrix.org> going "lalala everything is fine, all in XMR" is what cult members would do
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<monerobull:matrix.org> you can be both bullish and not risk literally everything on one thing, especially if you see a fatal flaw in it
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yes I am all in :D
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<monerobull:matrix.org> ignoring it and just hoping the black swan never arrives is how you end up killing yourself after getting wiped out by the black swan
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<monerobull:matrix.org> nioc has a different risk profile compared to me
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<monerobull:matrix.org> nioc is also more biased towards pow and thus prices in the likelyhood of a PoW-based black swan lower than mb does
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there have been many times in the past where I could have sold due to risk but never did as, in the end, they all were actually short term
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it's not inevitable but I have seen the community consistently make the correct decisions and they aren't considering the price when doing so
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<monerobull:matrix.org> see, in my opinion the current consensus will inevitably fail as soon as someone tries to seriously harm monero
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i dont want to bet everything i have on the consensus holding up
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you acted as if it was imminent while I am a natural procrastinator :D
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<monerobull:matrix.org> no i dont think its imminent
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i DO think that when it happens, there is no escaping it and i dont want to eat that loss
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*if
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<monerobull:matrix.org> its mostly just risk management bcs i was overexposed
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i dont think its an "if" as long as we keep the consensus as it is right now
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i already feel like a traitor to monerochan as it is 😭
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there will be changes
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hopefully they will help you feel better
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does she know? lol
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<monerobull:matrix.org> for sure
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<monerobull:matrix.org> nioc: im hoping on this as well
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<monerobull:matrix.org> but selfish mining mitigations wont cut it
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<monerobull:matrix.org> it needs either really robust checkpointing or the PoS finality layer
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<ct:xmr.mx> I'd rather take protocol advice from researchers and/or programmers rather then monerobears 😭
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> hi, researcher and programmer, currently attending an academic conference for an accepted paper I presented yesterday
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> finality layer gud
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> thank you for your time
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<monerobull:matrix.org> @ct:xmr.mx: Get rekt
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<monerobull:matrix.org> 😎
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<ct:xmr.mx> Moneroparrot
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Boog900 full time work on Cuprate (3 months) has moved to funding!
ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/boog_3_months_cuprate_4.html
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<drinksomemilk:matrix.org>
mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/VPWuTWQcAZPJrqCdtaBkoIqw.jpg (ca5ea13893532e180b8f85f97206d827773b7cd44f15002ca5b74049f41e7c7d-2023736299.jpg)
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once again I was commenting think that I was in off-topic hehe
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*thinking
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> is this accurate, or do people prefer cake wallet over monero.com for getmonero.org listing