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n1oc
anon: full-time on daemon and fcmp is now fully funded!
ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/anon-10302025.html @luigi1111
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n1oc
[CCS Proposals] plowsoff opened merge request #631: anon/jeffro to wip
repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/631
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br-m
<xlowt:matrix.org> I just shared a detailed technical analysis of the current version (v5). If you disagree, please point to specific lines of code that you consider unsafe. > <plowsof> easymonerod is unsafe AI slop
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br-m
<xlowt:matrix.org> "AI slop" is not a technical argument. The code works, the security practices are correct (SSH hardening, optional RPC password, backups before modifications), and the script is clearly intended for beginners with a dedicated PC.
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br-m
<xlowt:matrix.org> If you have specific concerns about the current version, I'm happy to discuss them.
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br-m
<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I honestly don't feel like reviewing ai...slop, but as a start, you're wrong about rpc-bind-ip=0.0.0.0. The config you ship is an obvious dangerous point. I can literally, remotely, delete users of easymonerod's blockchains
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br-m
<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> As much as might usually like to help, i'm on, and have been on strike when it comes to vibe coded projects, especially with obvious and glaring mistakes
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br-m
<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If the basics aren't done right, i feel its not my job to clean up every little (and dangerous, iirc there were many, and probably still is) mistake in a 1700 line 100% claude production
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br-m
<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Like... why touching things that you dont understand, and then shipping it to "noobs" who are literally going to get rekt by running this
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DataHoarder
slop at best harmful at worst, and this errs towards the second
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DataHoarder
something made without deep knowledge by hallucination, aimed towards users that also don't understand it
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DataHoarder
use stuff to review, but not to build safety/privacy critical services.
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br-m
<hbs:matrix.org> Rule #1, if no human spent time writing it, I'm not spending time reading it
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br-m
<xlowt:matrix.org> You're right about rpc-bind-ip=0.0.0.0 without restriction. This has been fixed — restricted-rpc=1 is now added to the configuration. The RPC is now limited to read-only operations.
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br-m
<xlowt:matrix.org> Thanks for pointing this out.
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br-m
<xlowt:matrix.org> That said, in my country, 95% of people are computer illiterate. Your tools are too complicated for them. It's better to have an easy-to-use software that still needs improvement than a professional tool that nobody knows how to use.
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br-m
<xlowt:matrix.org> At least this gets more people running nodes. Perfect is the enemy of good.
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plowsof
Rekt at v5 still? 😆
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plowsof
Is everything you are typing here ctrl+v'd from chatgpt?
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plowsof
Nobody who can string 2 sentences together would produce that piece of garbage surely
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DataHoarder
> That said, in my country, 95% of people are computer illiterate. Your tools are too complicated for them.
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DataHoarder
and so they will too complicated when thy get rekt by ai hallucinations that damages them permanently
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DataHoarder
More nodes in a way that has them damage the network or end up exploitable is not better. And there are already non-AI options
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br-m
<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @xlowt:matrix.org: ./monerod isnt complicated
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DataHoarder
The option is not AI or none at all. You may even get resources provided if you have a plan to implement something properly
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DataHoarder
The issue at hand here is just throwing AI at it and expecting something out of it (you are making more from less, not less from more, as a general rule, you want stuff like this to distill, or not generate novel things)
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DataHoarder
It seems not even you understands this thing, so it's not about end users, it's approaching them with complete ignorance and just acting as a glorified messenger between whatever AI and this irc
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DataHoarder
To the point where you can't review what the AI has generated, and it's not even code, just cmdline arguments
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br-m
<plowsof:matrix.org>
kerlannXmr/EasyMonerod #6 -> installs vim for the noobs? 😆
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br-m
<321bob321> How do you know the code is correct if you rely on ai ?
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br-m
<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You dont
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br-m
<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You just release it and claim that it's correct and safe
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br-m
<plowsof:matrix.org> donation address, send it
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br-m
<plowsof:matrix.org> now we can make the "free qr code generator v5"
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br-m
<321bob321> Is the donate address real ?
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br-m
<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> which one
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br-m
<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Theres a kuno as well, so that one must be real