<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I was under the impression that it was very cheap 🙂

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Keep looking then

<s​asha:monero.social> Whf would you need to pay customs if they are initially shipped te the us?

<s​asha:monero.social> Why would you need to pay customs if they are initially shipped te the us?

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> Because US is not in the EU. US -> EU shipment if value is above 150 € receiver has to pay import customs.

<s​asha:monero.social> So lets say my friend in the US sends me a gift with a value over $150 then id expect to pay a customs fee on that!?

If you declare gift there is no import duty from US to EU

It's an option on the customs form

<c​t:xmr.mx> no, your goods are being held hostage until you pay VAT, that handling fee to DHL, and VAT on the handling fee 🙃 electronics have no import duty in EU, but other stuff may have an additional tax in tip of that

<c​t:xmr.mx> technically you are right midi, but because sellers use it all the time, customs kinda ignore that

<c​t:xmr.mx> especially when you order anything >1 amount

<s​iren:kernal.eu> FYI if you order from AliExpress they handle customs for items below <150 EUR. Maybe it would be possible for one of us to order personally and then the organization can reimburse them? I know for a fact registering a company account is not possible on Ali.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> We wouldn't need to pay for customs that way

<s​iren:kernal.eu> FYI if you order from AliExpress they handle customs for items worth below 150 EUR. Maybe it would be possible for one of us to order personally and then the organization can reimburse them? I know for a fact registering a company account is not possible on Ali.

<c​t:xmr.mx> Aliexpress pays customs in advance, its included in the price. The entire convo is about mini PCs somebody offers on moneromarket, and ships to US only.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Ah

ct: oh, no i was saying if you sent first to a US address and then asked that trusted sender to send you a gift

<c​t:xmr.mx> yeah and I was saying post service might not care and charge you anyways

<3​21bob321:monero.social> No smugglers in monero community?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Disappointing

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> Very interesting legal theory.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> Unfortunately for you, it's invalid for at least two reasons:

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> 1. I regularly wear this t-shirt in EU without anyone complaining.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> 2. The same day I wore this t-shirt in front of at least 2 police patrols and national (?) guard patroling Prazskiy Grad. No objections or comments.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> Also, if my t-shirt really was hate speech (which it is not), disseminating hate speech in EU is permissible, otherwise all news outlets publishing ruzzian propaganda would be sued out of oblivion.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> Finally, noone threatened a legal cause against you, organizers.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> Therefore it was your personal and your team decision to censor and persecute a speaker based on his beliefs. Being paid or unpaid doesn't change the essence of your action.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> Therefore, you're complicit.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> At this moment I'm convinced that this was your collective decision and your personal decision.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> You've faced a moral choice and you took (as usual) a simpler and wrong one, minimizing your own actions.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> Let me know address where I can return the funds you've spent for my lunch when I found myself w/o XMR in a hot wallet or korunas cash.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> And, finally.. ajs_ we've had a voice conversation and agreed on some course of actions. You've did nothing that was on your side, however little it was.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> Legally (if you'd go to the court) it's the breach of the contract.

<a​js_:matrix.org> Hmm.. okay.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> It IS hate speech, you're delusional and you need psychiatric help. Unfortunately Monero Konferenco is not a pscyh wards, because that's where you belong.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> It IS hate speech, you're delusional and you need psychiatric help. Unfortunately Monero Konferenco is not a pscyh ward, because that's where you belong.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> And fuck you for wasting the time and energy of the organizers. You're such a fucking snowflake SJW for crying about this for over a month now that nobody let you witch-hunt or doxx anybody. Not that you could do any real damage to anyone with that dad bod of yours.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> It IS hate speech, you're delusional and you need psychiatric help. Unfortunately Monero Konferenco is not a psych ward, because that's where you belong.

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> So, where should I send LN/XMR/USDT?

monerokons rino wallet , which is....

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> Thanks for using the term you don't get

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> Social justice warrior (SJW) is a pejorative term and internet meme mostly used for an individual who promotes socially progressive, left-wing or liberal views, including feminism, civil rights, gay and transgender rights, and multiculturalism.[7]

<a​khavr2:matrix.org> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior

<s​iren:kernal.eu> That's literally the definition of you; not doing anything good for your people, instead you're piss racing in a cryptocurrency event's Matrix room. Absolute waste of oxygen, nobody is persecuting you by not sharing your stupid ass slides made in Microsoft Office.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…/kernal.eu/rsNOlSEDewsGaBUudSqbuZdg

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> "Toxic Ancap". 😂

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> There is import duty and VAT

<s​asha:monero.social> persecute

<s​asha:monero.social> verb

<s​asha:monero.social> 1. subject (someone) to hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of their ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation or their political beliefs

<s​asha:monero.social> Example: his followers were persecuted by the authorities

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> Twisted Edwards should get legal insurance so it could deal with trash like this.

<a​js_:matrix.org> Stnby: will add to agenda whenever we restart meetings for 2025

<s​asha:monero.social> This can serve as a valuabse lesson with hopefully minimal cost

<s​asha:monero.social> This can serve as a valuable lesson with hopefully minimal cost

Is this channel still the main events channel, or is it somewhere else?

<c​t:xmr.mx> yes, its the main events channel, and we have a dedicated monerokon room for planning

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Lol

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Midi havent you been attending monerokon meetings since they moved rooms?