<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> Hey. I have a query. When I start up monero CLI, after setting up my wallet, it downloads this really really huge file, like gigabytes, and gigabytes.

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> Whereas, with feather wallet, it doesn't do that. What does all of this mean? why does monero cli need to download a big file and feather wallet doesn't?

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Those "gigabytes and gigabytes" are the Monero blockchain. The CLI wallet defaults to using a local Monero daemon, and that in turn downloads the Monero blockchain to your local disk. Feather Wallet on the other hand probably defaults to using somebody else's daemon "from afar", which doesn't result in such a download, but has security tradeoffs.

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> Is there any way to get feather to download the blockchain?

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Almost certainly, yes. I don't use it personally however, I couldn't direct you just like that which option you need to adjust for that.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Anyway, please note that it's never the wallet app that downloads the blockchain. It's always a separate program, the Monero daemon, which does.

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> Oh. so you are saying that I have to use the monero daemon to download the blockchain, before I can use feather?

<r​brunner7:monero.social> There must be a matrix room called "Monero Support" or similar which is more apt for answering such questions, by the way. This is the channel about dev work on the GUI wallet app.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> I am not sure whether the Monero daemon binary installs together with Feather wallet, or whether you have to fetch that yourself.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Well, if you have the CLI wallet, you already have the Monero daemon, so this question is moot :)

<r​brunner7:monero.social> You probably just have to instruct Feather wallet to use that, make sure the daemon starts, and patiently wait until the blockchain download finishes. I hope you have 200 gigabytes of free space to do so and keep downloading it for the next year or so.

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> I'm a total newby when it comes to blockchains and whatnot. I need someone to help me set it all up. due to my blindness, element is really hard to use with screen reader, and I'm not sure how to join another channel

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> I'm using feather because the monero GUI can't be used with screen readers,

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> That maybe about to change, but it might take a while for the dev team to kit out the monero GUI so that blind people can use it more effectively with screen readers

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> Hey, when downloading the blockchain, how long does it take? do I really have to wait a year until I can use monero properly?

It can take a day, or maybe a week on a spinning disk. When monerod says "N years behind", it's in terms of "realtime" chain, not in terms of what you will need to wait.

As in, if you start syncing from scratch, you'll be 10 years behind because monero started off 10 years ago.

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> OK, that's a relief

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> well I like to think I have a really fast connection. at the moment, the mdb file is about 87 gb in size so far. How big is it when it's finished?

It's 205 gb

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> and, if something happens to the computer and the daemon crashes, can I resume the blockchain download from where I left off, or do I have to start the entire thing all over again?

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> suppose I need to reboot after an update or something

that is the happy route. you should be able to power the computer down gracefully during the sync and resume where you left off the next time you turn it on again

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> oh good

<t​he-whocrazy76:matrix.org> fantastic to know

does anyone know a mirror of git.savannah.gnu.org/git/freetype/freetype2.git we can use in Dockerfile.linux? i left an issue about it monero-project/monero-gui #4361 (the other repos are on gitlab/hub but i guess we still need backups to make it less fragile

github.com/aseprite/freetype2 oops

no ver 2-10-2 only 2-10-0 there

gitlab.freedesktop.org/freetype/freetype.git has the correct branch

It's a bit more thn 200 GB IIRC. Maybe 250. Very roughly.

If your computer crashes, either it will restart where it left off, or it will destroy your blockchain file, forcing to restart from scratch.

The former is on Linux, the latter on Windows.

I *assume* it works more often than not on Windows, but what do I know.

The docs site has an updates blockchain size here docs.getmonero.org/running-node/open-node-tor-onion/?h=gb#assumptions

220.. although i have 2 nodes that have around 250

mine is about 215

Mine is 205

well then :D

.merges

t​he-whocrazy76, seems that my messages on matrix still came no through. I was the last days super sick, so except shaking in bed I didn't do anything. Today I somehow better and will look into the screenreader, I don't know what to do about matrix, is super annoys me, mabe let's simply communicate here in that room until somebody get's annoyed.

t​he-whocrazy76, first question I have, do you normaly use keyboard as far as you can? Or how this works with GUI, Screenreader and mouse? How do you perceive where the mouspointer is? It would be benefitial if you could reach all elements on the screen through tab and arrow keys, or?