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hyc sech1
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that shows the 5900x at 18% faster than the 3900x
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nioc
I thought that those 2 were virtually equivalent for mining
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nioc
also shows the 3900x 31% faster than the 3950x lolol
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sech1
they have no idea what they're doing
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XMRig will need an update for Zen4 MSR mod
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hyc
yeah, phoronix benchmarks are notoriously bad
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hyc
hm, they show 5800x3d as faster than 5800x
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sech1
it's probably just "this system had huge pages, and that system did not"
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hyc
lol
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hyc
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some one did a tuned run prolly
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its the fastest 6c/12t run there
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everything higher is non-6core chips
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hmm, maybe they didn't change the relevant MSR registers, for once :D
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hyc
always possible...
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hyc
funny looking at the Multi Threads page
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hyc
all AMD Epyc
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hyc
oh, top 25 anyway ;)
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sech1
actually, reading up on Zen4, it's just an evolution of Zen3 architecture - more caches and buffers everywhere
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so maybe MSR registers for caching didn't change
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Zen5 will be the big overhaul
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hyc
yeah, can't see them changing for no reason
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kekts
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this exists
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7900X ran
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17.5khs
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584 seconds for 10 million hashes
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ASIC cheat ser
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sech1
where are they getting them, release is only tomorrow?
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anyway sech1 i can ask some xOC results for sometime, but thus is a new platform so the xOC guys i know will be doing shit that gets points first
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tomorrow sech1
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good to see some progress over 3 year old Zen2 in RandomX, finally :D
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and they ran a 10M test
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not a 1M
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sech1
so kind of a stable oveclock
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so definitely not a record chaser guy
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its XMP
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the dimms are rated for 6000
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sech1
maybe they used it as a stability test
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maybe yeah
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sech1
7900X seems to be the sweet spot in the line up. High base (4.7) and top (5.6) clocks, only 100 MHz lower than 7950X, but 7950X has lower base clock.
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So probably 7950X will be only a tad faster than 7900X in most workloads
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sech1: always since zen happened, the 6 and 12 cores are the best balance
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you get the full L3 size on them anyway
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unlike intel, less cores, less L3. on amd, less cores, same L3
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I wonder if they'll do 7950X3D and 7800X3D next year...
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i wonder if someone has benchmarks of the 6 core, I kinda want to downsize a bit
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if tuned 7600X can match or be in 10% of 3900X in compiles, ill grab it
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if not, then ill wait for a while
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hyc
so how does Intel Raptor Lake support 24 cores and 32 threads?
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hyc
seems like quite a lopsided design
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hyc
ohhh. they're using heterogeneous cores
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So, no sick RandomX gainz with Ryzen 7000 then?
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Man I really wanted to burn some money on a new rig!
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hyc
decent gains, for sure.
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sech1
5-10% gains
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selsta
5-10% while using the same amount of power?
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selsta: Oh okay
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I don't know, I was asking :P
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That's nice, guess we have to wait for the more tuned results
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selsta: nah, it pulls more.
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but you do get more.
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amd dialed in the silicon for real this time
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shit works with a temp limit, it unleashes everything sles
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else*
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so you give it more cooling it gives you more power, more frequency, more voltage, more everything
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nioc
more efficiency?
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not really
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that curve tapers off as with all silicon
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they work like capacitors.
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sech1: overclocking
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more everything, YMMV
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so for bclk oc, you can skew the cpu core clock now safely
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clock1 = cpu core
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clock2 = pcie, memory, fclk
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so its safe to skew cpu core speeds now with bclk
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but if you want to skew either memory or fclk, you have to kind of give up pcie
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so you either lower it or you dont daily an nvme drive
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ofcourse an external clockgen will only be available on higher end boards
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if you want the feature, you know which boards to pick.
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one of the good things too with this design is that usb clock is a separate domain so no need to really use ps/2 for some weird overclocking
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but yeah be wary of memory and fclk overclocking with bclk as that will skew pcie.