<ack-j:matrix.org> No novel heuristics but its fun to play with. They essentially created a foss monero tracing platform using all the heuristics from previous works and baked it into a nice UI

<ack-j:matrix.org> Monerovis.com

<ack-j:matrix.org> The cool features are forward decoy indexing and marking poisoned outputs

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Yeh, use eet to fix eet I guess. FCMP will fix this.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> That been said, I tested it with a few of my TX, and it only blip the coinbase decoys (it's normal knowledge to discarde theses)

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Other than that it look like a nice monero explorer :)

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<dnvie:matrix.org> Yeah, that's basically fair 😄 No new tracing heuristics here.

<dnvie:matrix.org> The idea was more to take the existing heuristics and underlying data/relationships and make them easier to explore in one place. The decoy map and poisoned-output tracing don't introduce anything new heuristic-wise either, but hopefully indexing, exposing, and visualizing those relationships makes the data a bit more accessible/useful.

<dnvie:matrix.org> And yea, 100% agreed on FCMP++, once thats live ring heuristics are history anyway. I'd actually be interested if anyone has ideas on how FCMP++ transactions could still be meaningfully visualized or explored, if at all.

dnvie: tx semantics are still fingerprintable and tx fees are still granular enough to expose tx construction time (which includes tx publication delay which is a fingerprint metric).

This awesome presentation from Isthmus m.youtube.com/watch?v=XIrqyxU3k5Q

<dnvie:matrix.org> UkoeHB: interesting, thanks!

<rucknium> @dnvie:matrix.org: Welcome! Would you like to discuss your work at the next MRL meeting, Wednesday at 17:00 UTC? It's a text chat in this Matrix room.

<rucknium> Fee uniformity defects aren't just a timing issue. When different wallet implementations don't use the standard fee levels, you have some possible provacy issues, even with FCMP: github.com/Rucknium/misc-research/tree/main/Monero-Nonstandard-Fees