<r​ajafan:xmr.se> Hi

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> hello, who can I send my wallet for verification so that they can check the code and post it on the site

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> Please

<r​brunner7:monero.social> I assume in the following with "site" you mean the official Monero website, getmonero.org

<r​brunner7:monero.social> We are very careful, very conservative and very slow to add links to some third-party software there

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Usually any software that does not come directly from the Monero project itself only gets listed after it's released in a stable version, used by an interesting number of people, and reported back as useful and trustworthy

<r​brunner7:monero.social> This may take a full year, or longer

<r​brunner7:monero.social> I think the way to go for you is just release the source of the wallet on GitHub, maybe also provide pre-compiled binaries there, and then announce your project

<r​brunner7:monero.social> The place with the largest reach for an announcement is probably still the Monero subreddit, although you don't have to be a fan of Reddit ...

<r​brunner7:monero.social> By the way, testing new things is in no way formalized. There is nobody in the Monero community, or the Monero dev community, with a task of "testing new Monero related software"

<r​brunner7:monero.social> But of course if you release the source and possibly binaries and it has an interesting feature set people will probably take a look and report back

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Some people even long for new Monero related things to play with

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Just take into account that "we" are a pretty wild bunch of people, sometimes very critical, on bad days occassionally even a bit harsh with each other.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Not all newcomers have it easy.

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> then you can tell me where to put this product for advertising, what sites would you recommend

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> besides github

<b​asses:matrix.org> #monero-offtopic:monero.social

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> librejo.monerodevs.org

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> offtopic isnt a safe space rando , cornfeedhobo is moderating it like it was mrl or smthn

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> #freejuliu

<b​asses:matrix.org> well juliu discussions were spammy

<b​asses:matrix.org> offtopics doesn't necessarily mean spam is allowed

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It was offtopic

<b​asses:matrix.org> .

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> ???

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Juliu was K-Lined (accound perm banned) by libera admins

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> librejo.monerodevs.org

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Kycnot.me

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monerica.com

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> As I understand it, this is reddit, github, what else can you recommend?

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> Kycnot good site

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> bought a number there

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> Can I send my product to xmr chats?

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> Please

r​ajafan: in a security focused community, you'll need to build up support slowly. I would suggest engaging on reddit to see if you can get some beta testers that can audit your wallet.

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> Ok

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> here I can find bet testers and assistants ?

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> I’m hinting that if anyone wants to help, write, I’ll be glad

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Post link to source code

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nobody wants to hear anything about a proprietary wallet. Thanks

if by "here" you mean this channel? no. this channel is for the website and we're offtopic at this point. I suggest posting to reddit. and as o​frnxmr says, it will be poorly received if no one can read the source code and compile it for themselves.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He wanted it advertised on getmonero.org, so *someone* invited them here

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> thanks for the help and tips on this matter

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> so, is that a "no" on posting source code?

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> I will definitely publish it on githab and other resources

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> When will I finish it and run the test?

ok, how about, you tell us something about it

what is it , what does it do that no other existing thing is doing

<b​asses:matrix.org> lol

we're at the end of Day 2 btw and so far its some kind of payment .. wallet... service?

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> Sorry for missing and not answering right away, I’m preparing for exams

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Me too

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> When do your exams finish? Couple weeks?

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> this is a payment system with the help of which it will be convenient to transfer currency without commissions (I won’t say much so as not to reveal it ahead of time, as soon as the code is ready I will definitely send it)

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> June 25

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero can also be described as "a payment system which makes it convenient to transfer currency without commissions"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Youre preparing for exams that are 7 months away?

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> Yes

<b​asses:matrix.org> u do 1 week before exams?

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> it will be a little different there

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> I have 8 months until my exam

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> Has anyone heard of a cryptobot?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Now were getting offtopic

<r​ajafan:xmr.se> Sorry bro

bookmarking rbrunners advice, it shall not be in vein! thank you

vain even

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Vanity bookmark

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Pill

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ikr smh

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> should I replace github.com/monero-ecosystem -> librejo.monerodevs.org

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes, if the server is going to be maintained

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh yes it is

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'm maintaining it

<b​asses:matrix.org> cool, competent sir

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Should _add_ monero-ecosystem org to librejo

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> and should link to librejo.monerodevs.org/monero-ecosystem

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And i still wouldnt add librejo.monerodevs.org yet, as bF said he'd add it to getmonero. Should wait for that

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway, web template of new design so we can start working on the content

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Wen*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Meaning, librejo.getmonero.org

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> why specifically monero-ecosystem? its not complete list of ecosystem

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Librejo is git repo website

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not a monero-only git repo

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Syn has ecosystem/* already, but those are permissionless mirrors of community projects

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Monero-ecosystem has projects on it where the repo owners should have power over them, some of them abandoned.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Monero-outreach, for example

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> example of abandoned*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Monero-python has a newer code (iirc) on rino's repositories on GH

<b​asses:matrix.org> anyone can upload that org ecosystem github repos to librejo

<b​asses:matrix.org> not true,

<b​asses:matrix.org> >Librejo: Monero ecosystem archive

<b​asses:matrix.org> >An alternative to github for the monero community

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway, my point is that librejo === repo.getmonero.org, just on forgejo instead of gitlab

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes true

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I can open whatever tf repo i want there

<b​asses:matrix.org> if projects are maintained and working, otherwise no need to upload useless repos

<b​asses:matrix.org> Pills are winning why? shoudn't it be monero only?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Synthetics going to spy on my private repos and delete my code if i make a bitcoin pos?

<b​asses:matrix.org> should be a strict rule, any monero relevant project can be uploaded, hence why it is called monero ecosystem

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Or threaten to if its public?

<b​asses:matrix.org> of course not

<b​asses:matrix.org> public repos only

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Librejo isnt monero-ecosystem, librejo is a monero focused github repo

<b​asses:matrix.org> if you want to host your code, you got codeberg and multiple forejo instances out there, librejo should be for Monero projects only by community

<b​asses:matrix.org> syn lier?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Why would any dev use librejo if they can _only_ use it for monero projects?

<b​asses:matrix.org> so people that are interested in monero can find it easily

<b​asses:matrix.org> ecosystem

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If i wanted to migrate from github to librejo, i'm supposed to fragment my code storage and distribution?

<b​asses:matrix.org> wym?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I don't only contribute to monero projects. I have forks of stuff like ustoppable wallet, status, simplex, element

<b​asses:matrix.org> .

<b​asses:matrix.org> simple

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> why wouldnt i use codeberg for everything then 💀

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Simple

<b​asses:matrix.org> lmao

<b​asses:matrix.org> bruh u fr fr?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> yes

<b​asses:matrix.org> pls no trolling

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Im frfr

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If i release wownero-termux-node, i must split my repo from librejo to codeberg? Are you joking?

<b​asses:matrix.org> >Librejo: *Monero* ecosystem archive

<b​asses:matrix.org> >An alternative to github for the *monero* community

<b​asses:matrix.org> that's all I got to say

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Youre the one being ridiculous

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "an alternative to github"

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes it is lmao

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not an alternative to github if i have to use github for projects that arent monero based

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And its not a sane workflow to use 3 different online repos. The reason i _dont_ use librejo more often atm is because most of my repos are on GH

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If i wanted to migrate, i'm _not_ migrating 50% to librejo and the other 50% to codeberg. I'm moving everything to one or the other

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> it is. I'm checking new users and repositories regularly

<b​asses:matrix.org> great, thx pills for taking care of it

<b​asses:matrix.org> and prevent intruders

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'm the intruder

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> U serious? I cant have my coolify or particl docs on there?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> needs to have some links with monero

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> bsx is included because it includes monero

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> same with serai

<b​asses:matrix.org> .

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> well that sucks

<b​asses:matrix.org> that's what I have been saying for the past 20 mins

<b​asses:matrix.org> it is obvious

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeah i heard u 20mins ago

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Yeah I heard nothing for 20 min

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I was eating taco

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Crunchy ones?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> the best fr

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I understand monero community only, but kinda makes it annoying to use if you have to split your repos among different gits

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> first of all, i'm a monorepo supremacist. I'm racist of splitting repositories, its stupid and just exhaust users. we had to make the whole git submodule because of morons liking it.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> #1 reason i dont use it more us bcuz i dont like moving back and forth between github and librejo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> secondly, ig that can be negotiated if needed

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> librejo is meant as an archive before being a complete devops platform

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Actions is still not enabled

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Haveno aloha just disabled actions bcuz their build fails anyway

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Who needs actions /s

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yeah who needs reproducible builds when you have Le third party computer and le trust me bro type of signature

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero qr codes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Sorry, i mean bitcoin qr codes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Re monero-ecosystem, i think some of those repos should be transferred back to their owners

aloha is a 200iq dev play. monero itself was forked from .bitmonero and they know this

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> My repo has the only legit, built-from-source version of aloha

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> their repo fails to build

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> librejo.monerodevs.org/Ecosystem

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> That has stuff like basicswap it in

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Largely a diff concept to monero-ecosystem

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (I'll likely create basicswap/basicswap on librejo and take ownership of it)

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> actually... if people use for other purposes it would benefit for us, free advertisement of monero

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> `Ecosystem` is a mirror of ecosystem repos. Monero-ecosystem wasnt a mirror

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Monero-ecosystem was the actual home for development on the repos

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> thats even better, we can add more repos with mirroring them.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I agree. It helps prevent loss of stuff like mysu

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero-ecosystem, i didnt like because it forced devs to give up power over their repo to erc (which ended with erc archiving ppls repos)

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> can you repos to librejo.monerodevs.org/Ecosystem that you dont own?

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> @syntheticbird:monero.social

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Every ccs is monero node and monero mirro

<3​21bob321:monero.social> r

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Basicswap was added there by syntheticbird, for example

<3​21bob321:monero.social> So we need to mirror librejo too?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Then mirror that mirror up to 16

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/TtPOCOfgnUakeGANhLXGfvPL

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Until we get fcmp

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> the repo owned by "ecosystem"(?)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Is that erc-20?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> His repo name was similar

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Nvm it was monero- ecosystem

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It should automatically pull in every N hours

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> what if someone develops on librejo?

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> im asking if it is possible to make something like categories

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Have to create their own repo

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ecosystem is just a backup/archive

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> librejo.monerodevs.org/nahuhh but i have a dev acct there, with just 1 repo mirrors atm

<b​asses:matrix.org> nah not really, just melt resources

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> wownero's git had a lot of community projects on it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They migrated to codeberg

<b​asses:matrix.org> yeah...

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nor bcuz of resources but bcuz they disnt want to maintain the isntance

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Like, getmonero.org pays for downloads yknow

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We could always just tell everyone to use github release page

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Also, your "i-dont-run-a-node" is showing.. if were talking about melting resources

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Generalfund pays for everything subdomain aside from docs and soon, librejo

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They literally pay for an unused penpot

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What i'm getting at, is i we should have adequate resources to cover hosting if it required larger storage capacities etc