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18 Jul 2021

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• 03:06
  chymera
  can I set the CLI wallet to display the balance and transfer amounts in mXRM (i.e. milli-Monero)?
• 03:12
  malinero
  chymera: try "set unit millinero"
• 04:18
  apotheon
  .val .001 xmr
• 04:18
  Wallet
  apotheon: ≈$0.201 • ≈ value of: 0.001 XMR • Source: cmc/ccc/altm
• 04:26
  Norkle
  .faucet
• 04:26
  Wallet
  N​orkle: What number is ON​E
• 04:26
  Norkle
  1
• 04:26
  Wallet
  Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000025 XMR to Norkle [154599bb] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01430046
• 08:05
  Protocol2
  Mass adoption when?
• 08:11
  raecarruth
  never.
• 08:12
  raecarruth
  people want convenience over privacy
• 08:12
  raecarruth
  *the average person
• 08:13
  Protocol2
  Honestly I agree with you but currenly the only thing that is inconvenient about monero is obtaining it.
• 08:14
  Protocol2
  The wallets are pretty slick and functional and it's already way easier to buy than some shitcoins like Rubic or something.
• 08:14
  raecarruth
  well, I don't know how usable the mobile wallets are
• 08:14
  Protocol2
  Monerujo is perfect imo
• 08:15
  raecarruth
  maybe, it's fine for me
• 08:15
  Protocol2
  >Download app
• 08:15
  raecarruth
  last time i used it
• 08:15
  Protocol2
  >Add seed
• 08:15
  Protocol2
  >Done
• 08:16
  Protocol2
  If exchanges don't start delisting monero because of muh black markets it's really quite decent
• 08:17
  Protocol2
  And it's the only token I see actual use for/that I'd buy to use myself
• 08:17
  PapuaHardyNet
  hello, can you recommend more dev related monero channels to idle in aside from #monero-dev?
• 08:18
  PapuaHardyNet
  #haveno is one, I think
• 08:20
  raecarruth
  xmr is my favorite cryptocurrency by fa
• 08:20
  raecarruth
  r
• 08:20
  raecarruth
  i just don't think that others have the same priorities or interests
• 08:20
  raecarruth
  which is why they don't care about open ledgers right now
• 08:22
  Protocol2
  Myeah I see
• 08:23
  Protocol2
  I do see a problem with the fact that big companies probably won't use it because it'll make them look like they are evading taxes
• 08:24
  Protocol2
  even though they probably are already
• 08:24
  sech1
  From tax perspective, accepting Monero is no different from accepting cash
• 08:25
  Protocol2
  Sure, but it'll look like they accept sneaky money on the side
• 08:25
  Protocol2
  even though that's 100% bullshit for those publicly traded companies their image is everything
• 08:26
  Protocol2
  If people even 'feel' like they aren't morally pure it'll cost them in some way or the other
• 08:26
  Protocol2
  That's why so many companies shill [current political trend] whilst sometimes doing the exact opposite IRL
• 10:28
  narf
  does anybody else use exodus to convert into xmr?
• 10:29
  narf
  i did exchange litecoin to exodus then used exodus to convert
• 10:29
  narf
  then sent to monero wallet
• 11:57
  PapuaHardyNet
  narf, is exodus a crypto swap service? first I've heard of it
• 11:57
  narf
  it seems to be an app you install
• 14:48
  PapuaHardyNet
  narf: cakewallet seems to be the one service everyone uses
• 17:04
  chymera
  malinero: thanks :)
• 17:39
  kico
  .beg
• 17:39
  Wallet
  k​ico: How many c​hars in strike
• 17:39
  kico
  6
• 17:39
  Wallet
  kico: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000116 XMR to kico [faced4c8] Wait ≈23 hrs 54 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01428886
• 17:39
  kico
  .duckcall
• 17:39
  Wallet
  kico: ・゜゜・。。​・゜゜(')> 🦆 'QUACK QUACK!!'
• 17:39
  kico
  .befr
• 17:39
  Wallet
  kico: SHE GOBBLED THE TREAT! Time: ≈3.72 sec Lucky Duck! You get 0.00000008 XMR! [a3af6c69] Ratio: 1 of 1 Treats: 1 of 2
• 17:40
  kico
  .bal
• 17:40
  Wallet
  kico: 0.00007248 XMR (≈$0.01)
• 22:16
  apotheon
  .faucet
• 22:16
  Wallet
  ap​otheon: How​ many digits is 72
• 22:16
  apotheon
  2
• 22:16
  Wallet
  apotheon: @bonuspot tipped 0.00004 XMR to apotheon [ffa6ae0c] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01424878
• 22:27
  apotheon
  Holy shit is Tone Vays an annoying dude in video interviews, and his commentaries seem vapid.
• 22:28
  apotheon
  This is clearly one of those former JP Morgan VPs who had that title without real organizational authority.
• 22:29
  apotheon
  I think I recall a report at one point that there were more VPs at JP Morgan than any other broad job type in the entire company.
• 22:31
  apotheon
  (e.g. facilities, assistants, lower-ranking executors of policy, management, equivalent-ranking and higher-ranking policy makers, and so on)
• 22:56
  ndorf
  apotheon: VP is the lowest title you can have at most investment banks.
• 22:56
  ndorf
  above only no title at all.
• 22:56
  ndorf
  source: i was a VP at Bear Stearns when i was 19
• 22:58
  ndorf
  i've never heard of anyone having reports as a VP, i think you need to be at least AD for that if not MD
• 22:59
  ndorf
  the takeaway is that anyone who holds out their VP title as some kind of authority or achievement can be safely ignored as a self-aggrandizing blowhard.
• 23:15
  nioc
  one step away from president and now look at him
• 23:15
  nioc
  so sad
• 23:23
  ndorf
  lol
• 23:40
  apotheon
  ndorf: I'm kinda assuming a VP would be a higher-prestige (and likely higher-paid) job than "receptionist".
• 23:40
  apotheon
  I did recall that most VPs at JP Morgan didn't have reports.
• 23:42
  apotheon
  Can an entry-level software dev at an investment bank be a VP?
• 23:42
  apotheon
  . . . or is it only people on the "investment" track who get that entry-level title?
• 23:43
  ndorf
  entry-level, probably not, but i wouldn't be surprised if it happened for "exceptional" candidates.
• 23:44
  ndorf
  i was hired as an entry level dev and promoted to VP about a year later.
• 23:44
  ndorf
  everyone else on my team was VP already, and the team lead/manager was an MD
• 23:44
  ndorf
  (small team, 4-8 people)
• 23:46
  ndorf
  if you're already a senior dev you're probably getting hired as a VP
• 23:46
  ndorf
  (or higher)
• 23:48
  apotheon
  I see.
• 23:48
  apotheon
  It's like they just don't know what words mean.
• 23:49
  ndorf
  it's weird for sure.
• 23:49
  apotheon
  Congratulations. You've been a vice president.
• 23:50
  ndorf
  been there done that got the t-shirt
• 23:50
  apotheon
  I wonder if Tone Vays was some kind of senior custodian.
• 23:51
  ndorf
  sigh. ok fine i'll check his linkedin
• 23:51
  apotheon
  nice
• 23:52
  apotheon
  "I swept and mopped administrative assistants' floors."
• 23:52
  ndorf
  "financial systems analyst" that's definitely below even an entry level dev in terms of pay and prestige.
• 23:53
  apotheon
  That's far less impressive sounding than "I was Vice President of office operations facilities."
• 23:53
  apotheon
  Oh, financial systems analyst.
• 23:53
  apotheon
  Hmm.
• 23:54
  apotheon
  I'm guessing that's "systems analyst" in the software maintenance sense of the term.
• 23:54
  apotheon
  My mother held a job title of Senior Systems Analyst once. She wrote a lot of COBOL at the time, I think.
• 23:55
  ndorf
  i don't think so, i think it's more like TPS reports.
• 23:55
  apotheon
  She had later dev-y jobs that were probably less mind-grindingly dull.
• 23:55
  apotheon
  ooh, damn
• 23:55
  apotheon
  TPS reports.
• 23:56
  apotheon
  I wonder if he got his own stapler.
• 23:57
  ndorf
  hehe
• 23:57
  apotheon
  Oh, shit, I looked up "financial systems analyst". I guess his job was to maintain spreadsheets.
• 23:58
  ndorf
  sounds about right
• 23:58
  apotheon
  That's *depressing*.
• 23:58
  ndorf
  or possibly to simply use spreadsheets developed and maintained by more capable people.
• 23:58
  apotheon
  This is getting hysterically bad.
• 23:59
  ndorf
  ok, maybe i'm being too harsh. but yeah if this guy is trying to hold out this position as some kind of relevant experience, that's total bullshit lol
• 23:59
  apotheon
  I'm now impressed again . . . in a bad way.