<p​olar9669:matrix.org> There is no floor

^

I can't believe Giacamo is using the boating accident theme. He is way too smart to think that is a viable strategy for translucent blockchains. twitter.com/giacomozucco/status/1741424366431461683

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> someone should tell him

in the us you don't have to declare your assets nice anarcysit you have their argentina

anarchist

No, no, anarcho-capitalist. *Some* things must have their order.

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Taxation is theft.

So this anarcho-capitalist already stumbles after hardly leaving the box? That escalated quickly :)

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Didn't surprise. All politicians are liars.

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Monero is the final solution to the taxation problem.

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> And the politician problem.

rbrunner: thx, the label escaped me

as if putting things in a box actually separates them from other things

:)

I kind of understand the desire of the people there to try something else for once, but IMHO this can only end in tears. How do they say? "Mark my words."

<e​rembax:matrix.org> Been thinking about scaling, we have dynamic blocks but it is unclear to me how big they can get and how much txs monero can realistically handle per block without fees going through the roof

<e​rembax:matrix.org> Any good sources on this ?

This simulator was mentioned somewhere here on IRC recently: reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/13fta7…t/simulating_moneros_dynamic_blocks

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> github.com/spackle-xmr/Dynamic_Block_Demo

<e​rembax:matrix.org> Interesting. I should study this more, it doesn't show a hard limit as far as I can tell.

speaking of putting things in boxes ... pbs.twimg.com/media/GCqbo1MXoAA8a6r?format=jpg&name=small

<v​elotaf> im curious what the take on bitmain X5

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> last I heard it was wildly unprofitable to use it for mining. but I am also curious about the newest takes, as my info is quite outdated.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> its only profitable if you're stealing electricity

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> tbh, back then, it felt like damage control in part of monero community, first reaction to it was a mixture of downplaying its significance and a threat of a hardfork.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> or there's a huge bull run

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> this is nearly the case for gaming PC miners, as well.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> how do they steal it?

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> is it from living with parents that don't know whats going on

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> running an extension cord ot someone else's building

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> or some fuckery with the electric company's meter?

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> they are not profiting much unless they steal it.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> i know

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> i'm just wondering if you have any funny tales of what retards do

Are those still on sale? Can you really get one?

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> parents, dorms, work place electricity, or even stealth mining on one's own corpo's computing resources.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> the lowest of the low

About an technical opinion, amounts to "Meh" more or less: old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/16…_cracked_open_here_is_whats/k2jjgh3

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> there was a legendary retard that was hotel-hopping with a 4 GPU rig back when ETH still had a PoW. There was a great 4chan screenshot thread about it.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> i wonder how that rig is doing

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> moneroworld.com/x5_writeup.html

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> who it got parted out to

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Lowest of the low? I think every wagecuck/wageslave should strive to get a stealth-mining operation going using his corpo's infrastrucuture. Seize the means of compute!

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> To be autistic about it, open theft degrades society as a whole

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> if people can't run businesses without being robbed, even subtely, it hurts everything

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> stopping shoplifting niggers goes beyond the $ value of the theft

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> it is not theft if the wagecuck is paying his employer with disproportionate soul-sucking work hours.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> it still is theft, you're just stealing from a leach

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> the system is far too rotten in order to play this "honesty" game.

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> just try to fuck the fuckers who are fucking you.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> there's big chains, so what? I want one in my city so i have access to materials

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> if they go away it's harder and more expensive for me to do shit

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> might as well kill yourself with that defeatist mindset, right?

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> I didn't even hint at killing yourself. All I said is, it is a power game. Power, is what counts. Not honesty.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> though, I heard an old lady talking about how her adult son (still living with her btw) made "so much money off of crypto"

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> i didnt tell her she probably paid a shit ton for it throug the electric bill

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> since she didnt like me very much lole

<k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> I mean, the boy was probably paying old lady's retirement pension, which she was paying the electricity bills with.. Soooo..... the whole thing evens itself out.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> "the boy was probably paying old lady's retirement pension" what

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> afaik he was never her employer and didn't pay a proportionate amount in taxes for her social security

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> though if he was actually taking care of her id get it

Failed society, sick society, rotten to the core. We must be carpet bombed.

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> i hope the nuke hits your house first

me too

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> better yet, you're exposed just enough that your last moments are complete agony

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> I'll ask about saber rattling with Russia/Ukraine/China/Taiwan in the sense of "Is anyone actually retarded enough to fall for this WW3 propaganda?"

<f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> and some retard will essentially pipe up like "uh yea I do!"

22 minutes without mainnet block ... that doesn't happen often, I think

jinx

<r​asdf:w33b.cloud> why are key vectors used in ring signatures

<r​asdf:w33b.cloud> instead of single keys for all the potential signers

<r​asdf:w33b.cloud> >For the Ring CT protocol, which will be described in section 4, I require a generalization of the Back LSAG signatures described in the previous section which allows for key-vectors (Definition 2.1) rather than just keys.

<r​asdf:w33b.cloud> getmonero.org/resources/research-lab/pubs/MRL-0005.pdf

<r​asdf:w33b.cloud> why though

Happy GNU year !

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Based yang, to you too