<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> Hey y'all, I've just set up XMRig (built from source) and am trying to get it to use my AMD GPU to mine via OpenCL but for some reason it gives me this:

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> ```

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> [2025-01-26 00:40:17.827] Error UNKNOWN_ERROR when calling clGetPlatformIDs for number of platforms.

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> [2025-01-26 00:40:17.827] No OpenCL platform found.

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> * OPENCL disabled (selected OpenCL platform NOT found)

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> ```

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> It seems a tad odd tbh

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> I'm using a Radeon RX 7900 GRE so it shouldn't be too old...

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> Also, running this on EndeavourOS

<m​ayhem69:matrix.org> Trying the in Monero Mining room as well. Might get more help there

<m​ayhem69:matrix.org> Try the in Monero Mining room as well. Might get more help there

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> Thanks, what channel is that?

<m​ayhem69:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/phuezPoIuBEQMmfDIvByotho

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> It doesn't show that for me but I assume the address is #monero-mining

<m​ayhem69:matrix.org> matrix.to/#/#xmrmine:matrix.org

<m​ayhem69:matrix.org> Not sure if that will work for you I'm newer to matrix

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> Thank you

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You cant (or shouldnt) use gpu to mine xmr

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> Yeah it works, appreciate the help!

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> Oh? Why not?

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> Is it just not worth it?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> because its a cpu coin

<m​ayhem69:matrix.org> agreed, your probably better off mining RVN or another GPU coin and swapping to XMR

more specifically

RandomX is more optimized towards CPUs than GPUs or ASICs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Also, you need the proprietary amd drivers on linux to enable opencl iirc

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> Aaah got it

you can mine monero with GPUs, just that it'll be slower

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Moneroocean.stream

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> Would mining a GPU coin and CPU coin on the same machine slow me down more than it'd be worth? Aha

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> @cindy you CAN but i dont think ive been able to get it to work with xmrig

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No, doesnt slow down

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can mine cpu xmr and gpu something else

<m​ayhem69:matrix.org> whattomine.com

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> moneroocean.stream

<c​hronos-v:matrix.org> Thanks y'all, appreciate the help!

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> From Trusted and Vouched Dealers

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> ⏩ Fast & Reliable ⏩

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org>    DM for the best psychedelics, cannabis products available. Cloned cards, fakenotes 💯

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> t.me/hightime_market

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> *Got AAA+ Quality Products.

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _Shrooms

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _LSD

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _DMT

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _MDMA,

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _🧊,

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _Coke❄️

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> From Trusted and Vouched Dealers

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> ⏩ Fast & Reliable ⏩

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org>    DM for the best psychedelics, cannabis products available. Cloned cards, fakenotes 💯

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> t.me/hightime_market

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> *Got AAA+ Quality Products.

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _Shrooms

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _LSD

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _DMT

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _MDMA,

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _🧊,

<t​ommy_12:matrix.org> _Coke❄️

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> Bro you're on a Monero channel, if we wanted to buy illegal products we would do it on a darknet market like everyone else, not via some dummy on an unsafe telegram channel because Telegram forces you to give a phone number to identify you to the state if needed.

<d​arkhappyman:monero.social> what do you mean exactly ? Infrastructure & connection with monero ?

<d​arkhappyman:monero.social> Yeah sure, I was projecting my question for green countries customers, hosting etc

<d​arkhappyman:monero.social> Because we can see regulations of exchanges about monero and tornado cash devs going to prison ...

LOL it goes deeper than just the phone number. Telegram would be hard as hell to use anonymously also because they require the mobile app to register (and heard that they also detect emulators, although not researched so not sure) and can quickly suspend accounts created through Tor. I'd consider it impossible for an average person.

BTW what do they even use on DNMs for communication? I get it's probably something not centralized. Do they use their own on-site DMs with PGP?

<d​arkhappyman:monero.social> exactly

ah

<d​arkhappyman:monero.social> some people care less and switch to protonmail for communication, other go to simplex

I wonder if they trust the system that has them upload their private key to the cloud)

i wonder if you trust a platform that forces you to use their web client and client-side encryption library

which is btw, vulnerable to side-channel attacks due to the fact it's written in JS

Well they do have a "bridge" that allows using a normal client... But it requires a paid subscription.

you can't fix these side-channel attacks because there are no constant-time operations in javascript

Also yeah, can't imagine trusting a web client for encryption unless maybe it's hosted in my home.

and JIT optimizations heavily affect whatever technique you try to do to achieve constant-time

damn you just reminded me to read more on what JIT impacts but I have an exam to prepare to :(

BlueyHealer: if your threat model isn't quite serious, protonmail's web client is fine

but if your threat model includes attackers analyizing CPU timings to determine secret data

it is off the table

analyzing*

also good luck on your exam

No, I'm just still concerned with downloading the whole application every time. And them having my private key.

Nah lol side channels are not a concern, I was thinking of something easier.

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> there's also a big space between cindy's two models

yes

BlueyHealer: well, that's also a thing

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> nod, tip hat

browsers don't have much integrity checks

Also how easy it would be to target a malicious update because the whole code is shipped to every logged-in user every time

there is for subresources, but those are embedded in the HTML, which the server can modify

Cindy, are there ways to integrity-check at all btw? That could help.

i know someone who made a web extension that checks the PGP signature in a HTML file with the HTML file itself

and displays a little red shield in the URL bar if it's invalid

or a green one if it's valid

that's the closest i've seen

PGP? Does the whole webapp code get signed?

only the HTML file

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> bluey you're talking about using PGP over email?

ideally the HTML file should also include SRI checksums for all subresources (scripts, stylesheets, etc.)

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> if the PGP is handled by a server, it's already not ideal

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> cool @Cindy

Yeah, that part makes me uneasy! In such a case, I'd prefer to encrypt with a command and then copypaste.

Cindy, HTML? And what about the JS in it?

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> interesting idea for the plugin, it's a little stale, but I like the basic idea of it

But yeah, didn't know about such an extension, that's neat.

if it's inline, it'll already be within the HTML file

if it's external, you'll have to use SRI checksums for the <script> tag

which the browser handles and checks

Yeah - I just don't know how it is in Protonmail

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> bluey there are some other PGP gotchas too, but if you generate an encrypted message into a file and copy-paste the whole block then the receiver will at least get the encrypted message with integrity

webcrypto makes me sad

it's a big opportunity for web devs to stop implementing cryptography algorithms themselves in javascript

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> (and the server or other possible people in the middle will only have the cyphertext)

but the W3C people have been super slow to actually put in modern crptography algorithms that matter

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> ..and I would not recommend proton in general...

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> TLS is pretty good it seems, though serving 3rd party scripts and the like with a huge creaky spaghetti code monster seems to be pretty normal

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> CA has its own problems too ofc

I use Noscript for the third-party stuff

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> that

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> is a good step bluey IMO

I know Ublock can do it but Noscript is more convenient.

ublock is pretty powerful

if you know how to write filters

True. I mean that toggling everything was more convenient in Noscript for me.

makes sense

i can just quickly write something like *$3p,script,domain=protonmail.com off the top of my head

ye

I am yet to check if Noscript prevents reaching the domain entirely if you deny loading anything from it. From a cursory glance seems so.

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> Cindy do you have any insight into W3C matters?

whoops, internet failure

as soon as i sent that message

<m​r_x_tcv:matrix.org> Since Monero has developers and researchers in the USA, can anything be done to add it to CoinGecko's Made In the USA list? coingecko.com/en/categories/made-in-usa

<m​r_x_tcv:matrix.org> Allegedly, coins "Made in the USA" will have no taxes

nobody can verify it was made in the USA

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> please keep it in one channel #monero-community:monero.social was appropriate

also lol, how tf are you gonna report taxes on monero

<e​longated:matrix.org> Like any other crypto

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you guys have to report?

<e​longated:matrix.org> Some of us do

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> im sry

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> not financial advice

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> In some place you have to fill not one but.. Two reports 😂

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Like it Canada, you have to fill the federal and provincial auto-extortion forms

<s​iren:kernal.eu> I'm working on the annual report now, huge pain in the ass logging swaps from XMR and everything since Kraken delisted. Do you all use automated software?

i'm glad i live in a place where cryptocurrencies are banned

i don't have to report it :P

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm glad i'm anti-crypto

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I

a lazy correction lol

<o​hchase:envs.net> What confuses the fuck out of me, is so say I buy monero at $100 years ago and then withdraw that and self custody it. Now, I next year begin buying monero at $150 and doing swing trading(?) so I just set a sell order for something high like $180 and then that hits randomly next month, and then I again set a buy order low at $150 and hope that also hits eventually. So I'm realizin<clipped message>

<o​hchase:envs.net> g profit and that makes sense all in my app. But here's where it gets weird; did I realize profit on a $150 cost or is it on me to average the $100 stuff I self custody?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> book an appointment with a local financial adviser

<o​hchase:envs.net> ugh

<o​hchase:envs.net> the cost of the financial advisor is gonna far out weigh any of my profits

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> rotki Siren (comfy) repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/351 😭

<e​longated:matrix.org> Usually it’s first in first out, so it would be on 100

<e​longated:matrix.org> But contact a financial advisor

<s​iren:kernal.eu> That's stupid, what's there to account for in a local wallet balance? I need a tool that integrates with Kraken and ChangeNOW.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> I'll most likely give this one a go, hopefully the accountant won't charge me thousands of euros github.com/BittyTax/BittyTax

having to report crypto sounds counter-intuitive

at least monero

Cindy, how tf can you ban them? You mean disallowed to be accepted as payment?

if the government knows you use cryptocurrencies

you get fined upwards to millions of dollars

or more

oh

so don't tell

Does that get enforced well? In some places even VPNs are banned yet people use things like XRay...

Hope your opsec is good then!

not really

not unless you buy a lambo with bitcoin lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Million of dollars? Or like ver, get 109 yrs

<j​effro256:monero.social> The made is USA list is looking kinda sad lol. Ripple..... Solana .... a stable coin .... Hedera ..... Sui ..... A memecoin for the current president .... Worldcoin

<j​effro256:monero.social> womp womp

<j​effro256:monero.social> All shitcoins I would never use

<j​effro256:monero.social> Maybe Litecoin or Algorand

<j​effro256:monero.social> Maybe we could have more innovation in the cryptospace right here in the US if we stopped arresting everybody who builds anything remotely useful

freedom? that is not the plan

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bitcoin aint made in usa, is it?

nobody knows

i finally got monero and monero-cpp to compile in meson

aftr patching out i18n due to build system issues

not like i needed it since i was only gonna use monero for its libraries than its clients/wallet

(mixing meson and cmake is sometimes hell)