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Hi
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Freedom_Quester
Is it more effective to talk on the IRC channel, or the matrix server?
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testone
there should be no difference, as both places are bridged
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testone
[any msg in 1 of the 2 is broadcasted in the other too]
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testone: would you say one is more secure than the other?
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testone
even if one would, the bridge would level the 2
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testone: I should have thought of that, sorry
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What single-board computer would be best for running a Monero node, Raspberry Pi, or something else?
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testone
I've read ppl in #monero* channels using rpi, but I don't know the results, wait for some of them to return
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okay
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testone
anyway, as I had bad experience about them: if you intend to use SDs as memory, keep a substitute one and constantly clone monero db there
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testone
better if you have some chip doing RAID-1 with 2 SDs
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testone
so you never have to re-sync monero db with the backup SDs, as it would be always up-to-date
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do you know if you can connect an externel SSD USB HD to the pi, and store the blockchain on that?
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testone
obviously you can
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thought so! :-)
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testone
anyway, just in case you are interested in supporting a fully-open manufacturer of SoC: there is ST, st.com
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testone
no binary blobs and everything documented, from electronics to sources
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Freedom_Quester
SoC?
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system on chip
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== single-board computers :D
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Oh, I see. :-)
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ofrnxmr: Are you free? I have a follow-up question about tor.
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Got to go, bye
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<gingeropolous:monero.social> ermagerd my work computer just migrated to win11. now to go through trying to make it look like win10
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Clicked the wrong button, gingeropolous? :)
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<17lifers:matrix.org> apply all shutup10 settings to disable telemetry by registry, safer than removing the components themselves
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no choice rbrunner . work lappy is complete locked down and managed. incredibly infuriating working on a computer that i can't friggin install things on. so i built a linux box for my office of course
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Installing linux on dual boot partition , safer than trying to make windows shutup :)
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<fineopal:nope.chat> Dual partition is extremely risky. Windows is notorious with messing around with linux partition. Plus, you don't get secure boot.
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<fineopal:nope.chat> Dual partition is extremely risky. Windows is notorious on messing around with linux partition. Plus, you don't get secure boot.
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> We are in 2025, not 1999.
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> We are using uefi too
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Windows will even install its bootloader along your grub or whatever
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Biggest issue with linux boot loaders, is updating your motherboard bios as it usually get rid of the uefi boot entry
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Windows used to cause issues to your bootloader back in the day (all os did) because how the mbr boot sector worked.
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<fineopal:nope.chat> 2025 btw.
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<fineopal:nope.chat> Microsoft will fuck up a lot of things. Better avoid it.
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Thats a secureboot issue yeah.
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Initial issue was implanted to prevent a **grub** exploit
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Because grub did fuck up
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> I've been using dual boot with windows with secureboot since years never had a single tampering from windows
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> also microsoft windows is great for privacy and security
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> daniel micay said so
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> and if daniel said so it must be true
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> otherwise you are harassing grapheneos project
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> stop harassing graphene
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> I never got any issues since using uefi
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Only updating the bios cause issue (it remove all bootloader entry except windows boot loader)
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<fineopal:nope.chat> What lmao. He never said it's good for privacy. He said Qubes is the best choice for now. Are you enjoying recall too?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> im joking
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> madaidan's actually said something in the like of "windows with pluton chip is much more secure than linux and should be preferred as a base for your privacy"
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<fineopal:nope.chat> Yeah, grub is awful. I have been using systemd-boot for a while now. It's a lot better
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> systemd-boot, only great component of systemd. why you ask? Because it's not systemd team behind it
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<fineopal:nope.chat> He's gone. Probably dead. Don't take anything seriously from a 3 year old article.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> I actually take a lot of his take seriously since they are still up to date
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> linux security is a nightmare
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> the kernel is fucked
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<fineopal:nope.chat> Along with cryptenroll.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> and the ecosystem is doomed
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> It's not a matter of which one is better, it's just a reality
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<fineopal:nope.chat> linus is the one to blame. Do you remember the time he just refused to publicly post the CVEs because "anyone can just exploit it" lmao
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> linus isn't the only one to blame
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<fineopal:nope.chat> Maybe. But it doesn't matter.
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<fineopal:nope.chat> Still I think there are quite a lot of improvements, with secureblue becoming a solid alternative to kicksecure.
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Still looking for proper peer reviewed code review about that big Google patch (they refactored the crypto subsystem, used by Luks btw).
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Most of the code is nice assembly :)
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Or we will just trust google for fde, again
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> I hate secureblue
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Still looking for proper peer reviewed code review about that big Google patch (they refactored the crypto subsystem, used by Luks btw).
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Most of the code is nice assembler :)
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<fineopal:nope.chat> I have not used it. Just heard a lot of good things.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> They are grapheneOS zombie zealots (meaning they only believe in the bribe of information Daniel is leaving in chat). I would welcome their initiative if they wouldn't be using Fedora. mean It's great to have SELinux support and be atomic, but fedora is also completely bloated with insecure codebase maintained by systemd and red-hat.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> Debian have SELinux support, have one of the earliest secure package manager and play relatively good on minimalism
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> Kicksecure made the good choice
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> If you want boot security on Linux.
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> You want your boot device to be a usb key and everything else encrypted.
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> You put the key in a temper resistant container and hide it (or sent if far far away). But your going to need it each time you reboot
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<fineopal:nope.chat> lmao. Debian is far worse than fedora that's for sure.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> Debian release schedule and coordination is fucked, but the basis in itself is much better
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> The luks headers must be detached and on the boot usb key, not the encrypted storage
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<fineopal:nope.chat> This is good article from pottering:
0pointer.net/blog/brave-new-trusted-boot-world.html
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<fineopal:nope.chat> This is good article from pottering on it:
0pointer.net/blog/brave-new-trusted-boot-world.html
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> fucking harry pottering
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> he can burn in hell
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> bro has single written 50% of linux software critical CVE
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<fineopal:nope.chat> Lmao. You are delusional. No point in arguing with cult behavior.
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<fineopal:nope.chat> If you have a real job, you would realize the importance of systemd.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> Yeah that must be it, Im delusional bro 👍️
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> stay confident in your opinion i'm certainly wrong
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<fineopal:nope.chat> You have the tendencies. Have actual points to argue instead of attacking individual people who clearly know what they are doing.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> LMFAO
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<fineopal:nope.chat> So you think you can design an init system, far superior and better than systemd, have years of active development and being actively funded, and be extremely useful for a sysadmin?
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<fineopal:nope.chat> Do you know how helpful are systemd hardening flags for running daemon processes? I have never seen any init system trying to do anything close to it.
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moneromooo
The argument that "you cannot do better than X, therefore X is good" is stupid.
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moneromooo
Very similar to "you can't spy on me on the internet, therefore the internet is privacy preserving".
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One argument I hold in particular contempt as it's used a lot by idiots who try to avoid thinking on all the fucking spying going on.
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<basses:matrix.org> anyone heard of
github.com/systemd/particleos?
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<basses:matrix.org> macOS and chromeOS too
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<basses:matrix.org> he still uses Linux tho
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<basses:matrix.org> nope, I think he is still in privsec.dev rooms, because founder still DMs him
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<fineopal:nope.chat> I have not seen him in privsec rooms. He is probably in spite.
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<basses:matrix.org> joke?
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<basses:matrix.org> oh that still exists?
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<basses:matrix.org> oxygen guy still hangs out there?
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<sgp_:monero.social> Not directly Monero related, but tangentially related
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<gogo2464:matrix.org> Hello. I want to buy monero. Where can I do it please? Do I require my personnal infos? I did not found it at mont pelerin.
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<jeffro256:monero.social> If you have other coins and want to swap into XMR, you can try trocador.app. If you only have fiat currencies I would use Haveno through retoswap.com
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<jeffro256:monero.social> You have to KYC yourself, but you can also sign up for an account at Kraken, buy "allowed" coins there, and then swap into XMR through trocador.app, BasicSwap, or any other crypto<->crypto swap site of your choosing
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<jeffro256:monero.social> You can join the #Haveno:monero.social room for general discussion about Haveno
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<bobsacmanto:matrix.org> Is there a way to buy xmr on haveno without having any xmr?
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<bobsacmanto:matrix.org> Is the flutter app for haveno not going to happen? I heard it did not get its funding and there was some drama around it for not being open source?
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<basses:matrix.org> no, there's
github.com/atsamd21/Haveno-app but in alpha
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<basses:matrix.org> stage
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<gogo2464:matrix.org> nice! Let me try!!