is there an easier guide to setting up monero p2pool mining with a remote node (which i run)? i looked it up and it seems kind of daunting and i don't know where to put my node address

you put it in p2pool's config

pushrad chatgpt knows

i used it to mine with 2 pcs over LAN

for a few days

how much xmr did you make?

p2pool is easy to setup

it's a bunch of command arguments

about 80 cents

there's the manpage

chatgpt knows < 🤕

chatgpt would probably make so many mistakes and it would take half an hour of back and forth until i have something that sorta works

idk it worked for me, man pages are a better idea tho i'll admit that

how should i determine if i have little enough power to be better off with the p2pool-mini sidechain?

mine

that's it!

just mine and see

kk

currently compiling p2pool 🫡

> P2Pool get_info RPC request to host [my node]:RPC 18081:ZMQ 18083 ([my node's IP]) failed: Timeout was reached (empty response), trying again in 1 second

currently i only have 18080 and 18089 forwarded. is it a bad idea to forward 18081 and 18083 too?

<ofrnxmr> On the monero node

<ofrnxmr> --zmq-pub=tcp://0.0.0.0:18083

<ofrnxmr> Yes, bad idea to fwd 18081

hm i need to rethink my approach then

should i use a vpn tunnel from the mining rig to the monero node?

<ofrnxmr> On p2pool --host your.node.ip --rpc-port 18089 --zmq-port 18083

oh ok cool

i am installing xmrig from the debian repos and you can't stop me!!

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Xmrig is in the debian repo?

yep

p2pool is not though :'(

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> U sure youre not installing some malware ubuntu snap? :D

why would i be? i don't even have snap

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Do you guys use cash 💸?

yes i do

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> They say it's worthless

lol

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Why ?

but i don't use it all the time. i don't go to the atm often, so if a transaction would clear out my wallet i prefer my card. and when eating at a restaurant it's convenient to use my Privacy.com virtual card using my phone which obscures my card details

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Oh that's new to me I'll check it out

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> I used monero to buy data

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Im confused in using monero

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I use cash

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> costs like 5% more to use visa or debit

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Which one

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> US dollar ?

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> I used monero to buy data < what do you mean buy data? like for your phone plan?

ugh hate that i have to run xmrig as root in order to disable "msr"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You can manually enable it iirc

howwww

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> pushrad: Like databases infos

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> People's sell them using untraceable

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Monero

o-oh

i don't think this is the best place to discuss crime

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> That's crime

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> I didn't even know

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> My bad

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> What yoi guys discuss about around here ?

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Privacy.com is for US

yeah i thnk the EU equiv is Revolut

<redti1989:matrix.org> Which client is recommended on Android?

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> pushrad: Ok

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Hey guys I'm lacking. TEACH ME. Don't belittle me or talk down. HELP ME GROW

<imprevisto:matrix.org> you suck get off the stage

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> My bad

<imprevisto:matrix.org> just joking what do you need

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Good understanding of monero and how to earn and participate in the community

<imprevisto:matrix.org> if you need it you can work for it or trade for it

<imprevisto:matrix.org> good understanding depends what you mean

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> What can I do with it and how can I earn from it

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Id be happy to work for it

<imprevisto:matrix.org> you don't really earn from it, unless it goes up in exchange value

<imprevisto:matrix.org> but you can buy goods or services, if you can find stores than can take it

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Oh ok

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> I like being paid

<imprevisto:matrix.org> it's a popular option

<xtrassdouglas:matrix.org> Ok

<redti1989:matrix.org> Which client is recommended on Android? < i like Monerujo but there's also Cake Wallet and others

<ravfx:xmr.mx> I used to be a Monerujo guy until cake implemented that background sync that actually work

<ravfx:xmr.mx>, does it use a lot of mobile data?

i wish there were a monero wallet app that is as simple as the reference bitcoin wallet app :'(

@xtrassdouglas:matrix.org maybe it's not illegal

but if you use it to commit a crime it can make the crime worse

this is what my friend says

why can i no longer use my node from monerujo? i can select the node just fine in the list (sometimes, other times it says connection error), and when i open a wallet after selecting my node, monerujo doesn't finish loading the wallet before backing out to the wallet selection screen and displaying an empty toast message

my guess is it's something to do with the miner

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Good question. My data usually expire before I consume it all lol (and I dont connect to wifi) > <pushrad> <ravfx:xmr.mx>, does it use a lot of mobile data?

<redti1989:matrix.org> I tried stack wallet but I can't buy Monero in there? I don't trust cake wallet > <pushrad> <redti1989:matrix.org> Which client is recommended on Android? < i like Monerujo but there's also Cake Wallet and others

@ravfx:xmr.mx can you please check how much mobile data cake used for you?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> It takes 30gb to sync the entire chain from block 0

<gingeropolous> that'd be a good reason to implement the fast forward

<gingeropolous> or, "skip"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its already a thing

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Such ridiculous bounties proposing things that already exist :(

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Do we run git blame and then pay the bytecoin developers :`)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> That feature dies with fcmp btw

<gingeropolous> where is skip? every wallet ive ever used has to go through all the blocks even though I now I don't have any outputs in them

07:34:39 <br-m> <gingeropolous> where is skip? every wallet ive ever used has to go through all the blocks even though I now I don't have any outputs in them

it does fast sync for released checkpoints

view tags and sync height

but yeah, there is no "skip" indeed, you HAVE to scan them

pushrad | yeah i thnk the EU equiv is Revolut <- The one that's a PITA if not impossible to get going on a degoogled OS?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> DataHoarder: No, this is wrong

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its a param that you pass to the refresh command

to skip up to X height

but that mean you lose outputs

if you had received some, but if you are certain, indeed

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> "start_height - unsigned int; (Optional) The block height from which to start refreshing. Passing no value or a value less than the last block scanned by the wallet refreshes from the last block scanned."

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> DataHoarder: Thats exactly what "skip sync" is

what I mean is that there is no way to know ahead of time if you received something or not

so the skip is always lossy (in case you received)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The feature request assumes that user is clairvoyant

then you don't need to sync as you already know how much you have :')

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (and start_height does exactly what the bounty asks for)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Aka "skip sync"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> "where is skip? every wallet ive ever used has to go through all the blocks even though I now I don't have any outputs in them" << even though i know i dont have outputs in them = start_height param = skip sync

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> DataHoarder: You need to be at tip to send funds, so you do have to sync

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Unless you use start_height to skip ahead to the tip

you don't need to be at tip to send funds

you can even construct funds offline, but this can remove your privacy

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> afaik, unless generating offline txs, you do

outputs have to be unlocked, too

afaik a monerod disconnected from the network or with --offline generates proper calls for the wallet

so you do need to be connected to a backend

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Disconnected from the network the daemon returns "busy"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Have to get the node to "synchronized" state before it will respond to wallets

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ... i think

--offline allows this

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i swear i tried that a few hrs ago

also --no-sync

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> could just be sleeptalking though

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea lol. Nosync is the weirdest flag ever

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Like built in proxy node feature lol

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway, skip sync isnt only for sendinf txs

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> But lets say i receive $ evwry january. I dont want to sync 12 months of blocks to get my next payment. Instead, i skip ahead

tbh. a feature would be to export the outputs from an always online view wallet into a spend wallet so you know exactly what to sync up (and assuming this is the only spend wallet)... this is possible

also doable for hw wallets

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Not for fcmp anymore

indeed

but fcmp is not with us in the room at the moment

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> #monero-stressnet

should it be a full bounty? maybe not :D

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> start_height has existed for (didnt check blame), somewhere between 5 and 13 years

yeah it has been a long time

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> so many bounties asking for novel features that have existed forever, just arent implemented in GUIs

fun tidbit

sign message with --view doesn't work in view-only wallets

:D

except ... it can

for main address

(in CLI)

sign message in GUI only allows signing with main address

in view-only

it signs with spend key pub and private of zeros

not making this a PR but noticed it 2+ years ago WeebDataHoarder/monero 755bf84

I have specific code on p2pool observer to handle that fuckery

it's funny cause on GUI the same page that produces the messages fails verifying the wrong ones

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Probably a design choice to not "allow" signing with view key (?)

the design allows signing with view key

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Since the view keys are "regularly" shared

it explicitly has a flag for that

and it can be detected

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> oh

(signed with view key, signed with spend key)

you can prove you own the view wallet without doing an InProof for example

in observer I require spend signatures to set parameters for miners

but view signatures can be used to remove these

(or spend, too)

the CI test for my DoT PR keeps failing, while it's successful on my computer

the tests that it fails are related to DNS connectivity.... this will be hard to debug ;_;

it's always DNS

if quad-9's DNS servers don't work, PRs will start "failing" :P

they block queries for monero

:)

<chiefprivacy:matrix.org> How can I connect my XMR wallet to a local remote node? Remote because my node is in my server rack. I used the IP of my node with 18081 but my wallet cannot connect.

which wallet software are you using chiefprivacy:matrix.org?

<gingeropolous> yeah thats the start height for the sync. So if I had a wallet i created at height x, i would use start_height. So I create the wallet, receive some moenro, use start_height to do it. yay.

<gingeropolous> Now, its one year later. I open the wallet. For some dumb reason it will scan the entire blockchain since start_height even though I know I have never received an outputs.

<gingeropolous> especially annoying in the above use case, which was using mobile data.

Where can I find the up to date resource for the math regarding output validation? Is zero to monero valid?

<rbrunner7> sandbeach123: I think that's still valid until we will hardfork to FCMP++ which, of course, is not covered at all in that book.

Thanks!

sandbeach123: is it around just address derivation calculations? I found this VERY useful getmonero.org/library/MoneroAddressesCheatsheet20201206.pdf

I recently implemented full view wallet output matching on code, as well, if it's around those realms

Looks like a good cheat sheet, thanks as well

<rucknium> sandbeach123: IIRC, Zero to Monero does not have bulletproofs+. That would be one difference, at least. Look at the BP+ paper for info. moneroresearch.info

I'll check that too. Thanks

<ofrnxmr> @gingeropolous: "for some dumb reason it will scan since start height"

<ofrnxmr> youre confusing start_height with restore height. Entirely unrelated

<ofrnxmr> start_height IS skip sync

<ofrnxmr> Have wallet @ height 3000000. Current block height is 3500000. Open wallet and send refresh with start_height value of 3490000 and it will skip from 3000000 to 3490000, and sync from 3490000 to 3500000

<chiefprivacy:matrix.org> pumpxmr: Monero GUI

<gingeropolous> well dang thats great. is that in the CLI?

<ofrnxmr> @gingeropolous: Only rpc wallet :D (afaict)

<ofrnxmr> I doubt it will be impl anywhere else, because it wont work with fcmp

<gingeropolous> bummer.

i see that carrot allows for 64-bit subaddress indexes

which is the problem i had with the old-gen monero address

with its 32-bit subaddress indexes

<chiefprivacy:matrix.org> @chiefprivacy:matrix.org: I figured it out, you must use monerod with ./ despite what you may see in videos.

<chiefprivacy:matrix.org> Possible to add old xmr address to new wallet?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chiefprivacy:matrix.org: No

<chiefprivacy:matrix.org> My miners are using my old address, can I change the address without losing with XMR I have earned but not payed out?

<redti1989:matrix.org> I bought bitcoin via Slack wallet 2hrs ago and it still not in my wallet, is it normal?

<chiefprivacy:matrix.org> @redti1989:matrix.org: This is monero chat, now bitcoin chat.

<pw:xmr.mx> Bitcoin can take a long time. Just hold out

<redti1989:matrix.org> Ok I tend to exchange the Bitcoin for Monero

<pw:xmr.mx> Try LTC next time

<pw:xmr.mx> Faster and cheaper fee

<redti1989:matrix.org> Ok 👌

<redti1989:matrix.org> Thank you

@chiefprivacy:matrix.org: addresses are tied to the wallet seed, so no, they cannot be added

you can keep the old wallet somewhere if you need it some other time