<quicksilver:4d2.org> dk if this has been posted in here ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/fcmp++-integration-audit.html

<unworthy3133:matrix.org> Is this an official Monero room?

<rbrunner7> Yes, as it's hosted on the monero.social Matrix server

<gan:skhron.org> Rooms aren't hosted on Matrix

<gan:skhron.org> But yes, this is the official room, as advertised, that is

WDYM rooms aren't hosted on Matrix?

<gan:skhron.org> BlueyHealer: They're just aren't, they're distributed among participating home-servers, decentralized rooms are de facto le selling point of Matrix in general

Yeah, that part I know - isn't that the definition of "hosted on Matrix (the protocol)?"

Also I hate this design because imo messaging better off be ephemeral, unlike a forum. Or at least have an option to be ephemeral! Because it's frustrating on limited storage.

I like XMPP in this regard.

<gan:skhron.org> Runner said that the room is hosted on monero[.]social, so my comment was related to the fact that it's incorrect assertion, either way, off-topic

<rbrunner7> So what would be the technically correct statement? "monero.social is the home server of this room"?

<gan:skhron.org> @rbrunner7: No, it doesn't matter where the room was created at all

<rbrunner7> The authority must be somewhere, no?

<gan:skhron.org> if It's the home-server of this room, why room's pfp is hosted at morg then? 🧌

<gan:skhron.org> @rbrunner7: Yes, other servers actually, and the genesis event, it sets the powerlevel or room's creator(s)

<rbrunner7> After all it's monero:monero.social. I guess that does mean something beyond being a mere label

<gan:skhron.org> @rbrunner7: v12 don't have domains, and that's just an id, it could be anything, the domain there doesn't have a function, I'm not even joking

<gan:skhron.org> Morggers for whatever reason didn't decided to hash the rid until very recently, but the domain in rooms below v12 doesn't really have a function

<rbrunner7> Do you tell me that I could create a room called true_monero:monero.social just like that? The monero.social server in any case would be cool with that?

<gan:skhron.org> It's just a pedantic remark, we all know what Runner meant

<rbrunner7> I am rbrunner by the way

<gan:skhron.org> @rbrunner7: Yes, if you'd patch it to do so

<gan:skhron.org> @rbrunner7: Sure, will refer as preferred

<rbrunner7> "Yes, if you'd patch it to do so" Which ... it probably isn't?

<gan:skhron.org> Well, other servers will accept such roomid regardless, I was just referring to the fact that it have no function, literally

<gan:skhron.org> See: matrixrooms.info/room/urandom:maunium.net

<gan:skhron.org> !<font color="#ff0000">u</font><font color="#ffe200">r</font><font color="#aeff00">a</font><font color="#00ff9c">n</font><font color="#00edff">d</font><font color="#0042ff">o</font><font color="#da00ff">m</font><br> v1️⃣1️⃣:maunium.net is its roomid by the way

<gan:skhron.org> the domain part could be replaced with anything as well

<juni.per:matrix.org> can you claim SATs from a lnurl in cake wallet?

<berry.stiller-2w:matrix.org> Is monero using kovri?

<intr:unredacted.org> kovri is ded

<berry.stiller-2w:matrix.org> getkovri.org

<rbrunner7> Kovri is not dead until the last AI is no more that digested those 10 year old stuff about Kovri and shits it out again as if it was up-to-date info :)

<intr:unredacted.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/unredacted.org/LOrhtGjojWMRrunAcJSaMEnj.png (clipboard.png)

<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> last update on gitlab was 2019

<rbrunner7> Lol, see the casino advertisements on top of that Kovri homepage, hilarious

<berry.stiller-2w:matrix.org> So is there an alternative?

<intr:unredacted.org> i2p

<rbrunner7> getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/tor_wallet.html

<berry.stiller-2w:matrix.org> And what monero is using as default to hide our ip? Or do we need get something like kovri manually to hide ip

<rbrunner7> Ah, I know, we need to be very afraid. Anthropic Mythos will find a lot of Kovri zero-days.

<jbabb:cypherstack.com> @berry.stiller-2w:matrix.org: by default dandelion++ is used to attempt to obfuscate the origin ip of a transaction

<jbabb:cypherstack.com> tor is supported by default and at least one dev is actively focusing on i2p integration for the cli and gui

<ofrnxmr> @jbabb:cypherstack.com: I2p and tor* have the same level of support

<ofrnxmr> The new i2p focus is specifically i2p-sam and ability to enable i2p-sam using the gui (instead of being required to modify the "daemon startup flags" field)

<ofrnxmr> @ofrnxmr: Err, --proxy (blockchain sync) only works with socks proxies that can exit to clearnet. So vpns and tor.

<ofrnxmr> The new i2p dev work wont change that. There will still not be support for blockchain sync over anonymity networks (onion or i2p)

would the goal of this be gui with local daemon?

because syncing of an i2p enabled remote node with monero-gui is probably unsustainably slow

<ofrnxmr> selsta: I believe so. Syncing with an i2p remote node can be done today by putting the socks proxy into the socks setting

<ofrnxmr> But yeah, its ridiculously slow

<ofrnxmr> I mean. Yea, the main goal is to enabke tx-proxy and anonymous-inbound with a hidden service that is auto-configured using i2p-sam

<lordx3nu:matrix.org> moneroshamelist.com

>x/twitter

And people still use it

I don't know why

We should move to bluesky or fediverse instead of staying in the X cesspool

<intr:unredacted.org> bluesky lmao

<pyratevevo:matrix.org> @lordx3nu:matrix.org: Lmfao good shit.

<lordx3nu:matrix.org> yeah I don't think that should be on there. i think i'll edit that one out > <Cindy> >x/twitter

<pyratevevo:matrix.org> Cindy: I'm hoping the Monero Forum gets more traction.

Why is Twitter always the cesspool of cryptobros for some reason

Unspoken rule?

(And AIbros too)

<pyratevevo:matrix.org> It's the cesspool of everything from what I've seen.

Dare I say, we need some diversity

Lol

<basses:matrix.org> nice idea

<basses:matrix.org> website

<basses:matrix.org> idk why Proton Mail as title when all proton services dont accept xmr

<ravfx:xmr.mx> proton need some more shaming until they accept the XMR

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Privacy service

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Don't even accept the only viable privacy coin

<basses:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: I know service is bad when they support all coins especially Zcash and not Monero

<basses:matrix.org> I know Monero works when services refuse to accept it

<basses:matrix.org> because of scared of... literally nothing 🤡

services don't accept montero because they don't handle crypto themselves but instead use third party processors

which don't handle monero

"bank told me not to"

<berry.stiller-2w:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: digitalgoods.proxysto.re/en

<berry.stiller-2w:matrix.org> Check this. You can use monero

<berry.stiller-2w:matrix.org> For proton

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Well, it's some kind of proxy routing.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> I could also use trocador or similar swapper. The point is, they don't accept it directly

<ravfx:xmr.mx> And anyway, I can deal with my email myself

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @berry.stiller-2w:matrix.org: Not really

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> dys2p.com/en/2026-03-13-proton.html