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luigi1111
bleets
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luigi1111
twogs
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ErCiccione
one last thing, I think we should always prioritize a blog post over tweets <- i agree and we should probably still make one to clarify things. And yeah, posting a bug on twitter that way with that wording was doomed to create bad press and unreasonable panic, without considering that the trust in the project has been impacted
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msvb-lab
Does Monero Outreach host a public stagenet node? The one hosted by xmrto has been cancelled.
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dEBRUYNE
Fortunately I think the negative impact is not that substantial (press wise), but still a good point ErCiccione
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ErCiccione
IMO the important thing now is to make a blog post. if somebody can write the text i think we can have it online today if luigi or binaryFate are around
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sethsimmons
<ErCiccione "IMO the important thing now is t"> Maybe jberman would be interested in writing it up, or I can try to take a stab at summarizing it sometime today, but no guarantees.
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sethsimmons
Day job to get to.
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ErCiccione
sure, i'll be afk for a couple of hours but after i can help
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tobtoht
msvb-lab: the xmr.to node is now at stagenet.melo.tools:38081
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binaryFate
this ^ see this page for connection info
melo.tools/nodes.html
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msvb-lab
Oh, thank you tobtoht and binaryFate. I had real problems searching for stagenet nodes, and our village site node (set up for DC28) is no longer in service.
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msvb-lab
Anyone want to send me one hundred stagenet units? I'll offer them to anyone who asks at Defcon.
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msvb-lab
This means, too lazy to search for a faucet and collect units over the next days.
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selsta
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msvb-lab
Yes, I did that selsta. It's fine, I'll just keep visiting every day until Defcon begins and collect the units that way.
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msvb-lab
I wanted to avoid the repeated faucet use, but it's fine. Don't worry, I'll get the units collected in time for redistribution.
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tobtoht
msvb-lab: Yes, PM me an address.
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plowsof[m]
visit the faucet - put a sub address for 10 xmr - put another sub address for 10 xmr - repeat - ????? - PROFIT!
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sgp_[m]
Make sure you have plenty of outputs also
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msvb-lab
plowsof[m]: I'm doing this with a self compiled application that doesn't work so well with sub addresses.
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tobtoht
I can send you some 1-in/16-out's.
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tobtoht
Just need an address
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tobtoht
48x 2.5 XMR coming you way
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msvb-lab
Thank you togtoht, sounds great.
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msvb-lab
The unfortunate thing, is that we may have big problems convincing anyone to experiment with stagenet. But if we get lucky, then at least I will be prepared.
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plowsof[m]
How do you plan on giving people stagenet coins? something like a paper wallet?
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msvb-lab
plowsof[m]: We will try to encorage people to use use the stagenet and offer them stagenet units, yes. And maybe others will do the same with testnet and mainnet, I don't know.
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msvb-lab
But I don't have plans to print paper wallets. The good news is that we may have access to a laser printer. So this could be a problem solved in five minutes in the village.
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plowsof[m]
Sounds fun, maybe some kind of incentive / easter egg hunt e.g. if the stagenet balance is 0.42069 and you email the txid of the transaction you win $5 worth of mainnet xmr (to avoid any real xmr being unclaimed). Thanks for promoting monero usage!
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sgp_[m]
Do any mobile wallets have an easy to install stagenet version?
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msvb-lab
Yes right plowsof[m]. It's unlikely that we will have any fun or interesting activity like easter eggs. The Monero Community decided to cancel this, after several months of refusing to participate. So the village has zero coordinators for our contest. Not even a single person contributed a single hour.
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msvb-lab
But I'll do my best to say yes to whoever is able to receive stagenet, that's a very easy thing to serve.
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msvb-lab
And yes sgp_[m] Monerujo is currently building both mainnet and stagenet packages. So the easy option is to download a Monerujo APK directly from their repository and install it to the phone as a local package. I think this takes about twenty seconds and is easy to understand.
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sgp_[m]
I wonder why the stagenet edition isn't in the Play Store
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msvb-lab
But if people have non Android operating systems, it may be more difficult. I know that Cake has no option to use stagenet (according to vikrantCake[m]) so that may leave all Apple users out of playing.
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msvb-lab
If the producers (of Monerujo) decided to only publish the mainnet version, then I assume it is to keep things as simple and easy to support as possible? Just a guess.
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msvb-lab
The question you didn't ask is, why not make one application that can serve all three official blockchains?
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msvb-lab
You could make it nearly impossible to activate stagenet and testnet, but a experienced Android user could find the configuration variable and adjust it to use stagenet.
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msvb-lab
Then there would be no need for recompiling and renaming.
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anhdres[m]
There was a stagenet Monerujo APK, pinging m2049r about it
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msvb-lab
anhdres[m]: It's no problem to find a stagenet Monerujo APK, for example
github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/release…/monerujo-2x0x8-stage_universal.apk
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msvb-lab
There were many releases where a stagenet package was not built but at least in the most recent version there is one available.
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msvb-lab
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anhdres[m]
Solved then
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msvb-lab
Yes, I was getting ready to build when I saw that a stagenet APK is already there. What a nice surprise.
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anhdres[m]
My work here is done. I'll return to my planet
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msvb-lab
But a testnet APK is always missing, though it's probably not needed.
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rehrar
sethsimmons: can you approve the Cypher Stack post on reddit?
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rehrar
Milestone 2 is complete on multisig research.
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nioc
\o/
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selsta
but bad news is that it's complex, though we knew this
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sethsimmons
<rehrar "Seth: can you approve the Cypher"> DM me the link
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selsta
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sethsimmons
Approved
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sethsimmons
Sorry for the delay!