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MikeNarilaw[m]
hi, is there any simple guide or text that would describe the anonimity model for monero? e.g I send my money from a coinbase account to my monero wallet, is that anonymous? do I need to create new input wallets for every transaction? can I then just send it and expect anonimity or do I need to do something extra?
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nioc
well coinbase knows all the amount you withdraw so for withdrawing I don't know that it matters if you use a different address
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nioc
the address is not searchable on the blockchain
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MikeNarilaw[m]
so then coinbase knows I sent money somewhere but not to what address, and then when I send money it also does not matter from which address I send it?
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MikeNarilaw[m]
or the gui manages that
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nioc
basically
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MikeNarilaw[m]
cool thanks
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nioc
people recommend moving your withdrawals to another wallet as your address is known to CB
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nioc
if you use that address with someone else and they talk to CB then more info is known
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zartan[m]
<demitasse[m]> "atomic swaps are trustless swaps..." <- thank you
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Inge
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MikeNarilaw[m]
what does off-ramp mean?
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plowsof[m]
a place where you can exchange it for fiat or another crypto
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lockhead[m]
lol
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onions
lockhead[m]: what is so funny?
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lockhead[m]
wikipedia editor
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lockhead[m]
and pronouns in bio
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onions
lockhead[m]: are you declaring you are against our pronouns, sir?
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lockhead[m]
very funny
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onions
where is your inclusivity and manners?
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lockhead[m]
are you assuming my gender?
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onions
I am always assuming people's genders. Are you always assuming people's pronouns?
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onions
I will have to let you know I am a licensed wikipedia editor as well. I find your "lol" message offensive.
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lockhead[m]
wait isn't that the same thing
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onions
Is it?
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lockhead[m]
I don't even know, I don't keep up
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onions
One assumes you have a dong or a vagina in your pants, the other misaddresses people by using their wrong set of pronouns.
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onions
I believe there's a startling difference between both fringe endeavors, sir.
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lockhead[m]
nono, gender is irrelevant to biological sex
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onions
I was born with a vagina but I identify as a he/him and went under the knife. I kept the receipt.
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onions
Therefore there is no "biological sex" anymore.
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onions
Please address me as Ms. onions moving forward or I will be bringing you to court.
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lockhead[m]
Ms. me with that
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onions
lol.
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feelslike127001[
Never ever would imagine to read such a dialogue in a monero chat 😅
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orly_owl
feelslike127001[: sssh, let it die...
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demitasse[m]
I was a bitcoin maxi turned monero maxi ama
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orly_owl
how long is your hair
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onions
demitasse[m]: Wrong move. Don't become a maxi of any of these shitcoins.
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onions
That's my question. :)
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demitasse[m]
orly_owl: buzz cut short
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orly_owl
ok
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demitasse[m]
onions: i just switched being a maxi from one shitcoin to another, so what's to prevent me from doing it again?
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onions
demitasse[m]: I don't know. You tell us, Einstein.
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orly_owl
nothing
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demitasse[m]
Ok so how is it the wrong move to choose one currency over another?
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demitasse[m]
I could see your point if i just chose to announce that i went all in on doge because elon musk but twitter
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demitasse[m]
s/but/bought/
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orly_owl
i use camel teeth as currency
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onions
Ok cool thx.
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orly_owl
lucritive
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merope
The point is not the coin, it's the whole maximalism attitude
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demitasse[m]
I think there has to be one global standard for value online as far as a value transfer protocol, and it is now pretty apparent that bitcoin has failed and there is only one other actual option for freedom money and that is xmr
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orly_owl
hawala? ;)
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demitasse[m]
In my opinion, all the bitcoin maxi arguments for bitcoin now apply to xmr because xmr actually fulfills this role, while bitcoin does not anymore
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feelslike127001[
<demitasse[m]> "I think there has to be one..." <- The thing is , you don't need money freedom if you are white and fluffy. And thus anonymous coins will be fought against everywhere (.
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nakhy[m]
demitasse[m]: Seth For Privacy: correct
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orly_owl
people that promote bitcoin endlessly just because they like it are annoying
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monerobull[m]
I'm a xmr maxi but that just means I'm too stubborn to buy ETH or btc
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onions
demitasse[m]: therefore let's just copy and paste all BTC maximalism arguments, do a s/bitcoin/monero and call it a day!
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onions
Monero so best! Woo-hoo! \o/
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feelslike127001[
Btc is essentially crypto gold
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feelslike127001[
Usdt is very useful for capital transfer.
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feelslike127001[
Xmr is for anonymous payments
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onions
feelslike127001[: What if I am brown and fluffy. Do I need freedom money, or do I need to blacken my skin colour some more before?
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orly_owl
onions: now put that on a piece of wood
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orly_owl
and sell it as monero merch
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demitasse[m]
It is not that, it is the fact that monero is actually peer to peer digital cash like the bitcoin whitepaper says
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onions
<feelslike127001[> Btc is essentially crypto gold
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onions
How can it be "crypto gold" if it is not "fungible"?
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onions
<demitasse[m]> It is not that, it is the fact that monero is actually peer to peer digital cash like the bitcoin whitepaper says
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onions
Is that objective, or is that subjective?
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demitasse[m]
I would says objective because the dark web transition to xmr
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onions
Ah, "you would say", but it is not subjective. OK.
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monerobull[m]
hydra blown tf out
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orly_owl
finally the drug dealers caught on
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feelslike127001[
Who actually cares what white paper says ). The truth is in how people use it not what the developers wanted it to be
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demitasse[m]
The market has spoken no matter what i says
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onions
"The market has spoken." OK.
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monerobull[m]
feelslike127001[: yeah bit people dont use bitcoin outside of speculation
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monerobull[m]
* yeah but people dont use bitcoin outside of speculation
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demitasse[m]
How else would you define the phenomenon of people choosing the better money?
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feelslike127001[
Many use it to store wealth
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monerobull[m]
"store wealth" down 5% this week
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orly_owl
keep your wealth in meth
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feelslike127001[
Well we talk about 10 years perspective
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feelslike127001[
s/we/i/
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monerobull[m]
noone 10 years ago thought they will "store their wealth" in bitcoin
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orly_owl
it was either buying bitcoin 10 years ago or writing temple os
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monerobull[m]
only because the number went up, doesn't mean baseless "store of value " meme becomes true
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orly_owl
hint bitcoin was the profitable option
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monerobull[m]
btw, Monero up 3% today. i guess we can claim to be a digital gold store of value
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demitasse[m]
After the tail emissions monero's stock to flow ratio will out compete gold regardless of the menial inflation, which gold also has
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monerobull[m]
with the difference being our inflation is set in code
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onions
Imagine! NgU after tail emission.
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monerobull[m]
there could always be a massive gold asteroid hitting earth, making golds inflation 10x
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onions
Tail emission hit in a month or three and then Monero to 490M.
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orly_owl
490M you say? hmmmmm
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onions
Beats gold, beats bitcoin, beats litecoin and beats the baptist coin we hand to our pastors every day we go to church. Non-brainer. All in XMR as of today. Thanks for your powerful knowledge.
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demitasse[m]
It isn't about price, it is about actually making uncensored transactions and hiding your wealth from confiscation
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monerobull[m]
little intense, I always loved the 3 million by 2030 chart
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onions
I actually have uncensored txs. and protect my wealth from confiscation with bitcoin. Thanks.
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orly_owl
onions: why not undeclared gold? ;)
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orly_owl
i wont tell anyone
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demitasse[m]
onions: I am cool on taintcoin, good luck though
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onions
demitasse[m]: Yeah. God forbid we ever touch such "surveillance" coins. I will need all of the "good luck" I can get, indeed.
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onions
Let me go scoop some XMR on Kraken after my 3-angled selfie KYC/AML verification process gives me the green light.
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orly_owl
rectum.jpg
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feelslike127001[
<monerobull[m]> "there could always be a massive..." <- That's just not true)
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snex
twitter.com/molly0xFFF/status/1513151694812717057 > if you care about off-ramping, you dont get crypto
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snex
"digital gold" always makes me laf. can you make "digital circuits" or "digital jewelry" out of your "digital gold?"
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bridgerton[m]
<Encore> agree
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bridgerton[m]
<Encore> inb4 NFT necklace
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bridgerton[m]
<Encore> that one is nice