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M6gnhw777h7[m]
hello
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M6gnhw777h7[m]
Just wanted to say hi and finally got my node up and running
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M6gnhw777h7[m]
I solo mine everyday does that help
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plowsof[m]
yes π
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plowsof[m]
i believe you are helping the 'Unknown' pool
pools.xmr.wiki by doing that
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plowsof[m]
minexmr increased their fee to 1.1% on april 1st btw. Did that have any effect on the mining %? π
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onions
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cryptogrampy[m]
HELLO DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN GET AHOLD OF THE CEO OF MONERO?
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Siren[m]
WHERE'S YOUR MANAGEMENT???!
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bridgerton[m]
<ian.niculescu> Yes he is very busy. you first have to send a small amount of funds to this address 8BaYGtk1FcPaZSrKNNdhWhVvxKGSE6haCJ6RnzzeWDYkePtGTKNeZboXZw4MpWW8zTBtegXTvsN6sZwYRoUyFJF6FhVb1Rx.
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bridgerton[m]
<ian.niculescu> and then he will contact you
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bridgerton[m]
<ian.niculescu> (this is a joke)
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cryptogrampy[m]
Siren[m]: WHERE'S MY CAPS LOCK KEY ON THIS DAMN KEYBOARD
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cryptogrampy[m]
THEY KEEP SWITCHING WHERE THEY PUT IT ON THE GAME ROOM COMPUTERS
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Siren[m]
Caps lock, is that like a pad lock?
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cryptogrampy[m]
AM I IN JAIL
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orly_owl
Siren[m]: dont even reply...
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cryptogrampy[m]
Ah found it.
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plowsof[m]
hello cryptogrampy we thought you had passed, glad to see you around π
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orly_owl
cryptogrampy[m] outsourced IRC to a russian
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cryptogrampy[m]
hello plowsof
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soiledcold[m]
Does anyone here know who owns monerochan.art
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luigi1112
is primer back?
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luigi1112
can we have a community meeting soon specifically to clean up/move on some of these CCSes?
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onions
last time i volunteered to run a meeting i got cancelled, otherwise i'd volunteer to open the issue in meta. :)
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onions
i am definitely in favor of a -community meeting soon, for what it is worth.
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luigi1112
you could try making friends instead of enemies
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inlight
hi
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inlight
anyone here, i have a question regarding monero p2p
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inlight
so using centralised exchange- you sell crpyotucrrnecy and receive money in bank (since it is sent by exchange- clean money)
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inlight
but if you use p2p- a random person is sending you money, what is the person is doing illegal work and sent you dirty money ( feds will arrest you thinkin you are his partner and why he sent you money)
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inlight
you need to justify that
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inlight
so what is the solution- to this problem
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sech1
cash is the king
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surgeon_[m]
inlight: Thats why cash is king.
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inlight
wtf- cash for online p2p exchange
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surgeon_[m]
If youre gonna use paypal on a DEX you might as well use a CEX
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inlight
keep waiting for days
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inlight
for your launderd money or even clean money
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orly_owl
squeaky clean!
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inlight
surgeon_[m]: what do you recommend whole community to use ?
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inlight
iget in bank
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inlight
they can trace dirty money
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orly_owl
buy foreign real esate ;)
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sech1
cash for online p2p exchange is a thing
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sech1
LocalMonero has cash by mail option
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inlight
but in my currency i exchange
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inlight
millions
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inlight
suspicious million money cash
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inlight
its slow
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inlight
they need to know your location
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inlight
if cash is effective- then why dont eveyone use cash
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inlight
your solution is idiotic
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inlight
sethforprivacy: any answer to the problem ?
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sethforprivacy
Use cash as literally everyone else said
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sethforprivacy
Or only buy/sell from people you trust
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sethforprivacy
Monero obviously cannot fix flaws in other payment systems/currencies.
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inlight
yes, everyone should get to know the risks involved in doing anything.
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inlight
and if i tell the feds, i was just trading by keeping logs, etc (then i have to pay tax gains )
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inlight
and in supressive regime like china- that is a probem- you get arrested the other party could be their agent or dirty money (suspicous acitivyt)
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sethforprivacy
No one ignores those risks, thats why those payment methods aren't recommended (along with chargebacks and malicious false disputes)
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inlight
cash is not a solution - it is slow and has various issues in itself, govt. ask you to keep money in banks, and china is even planning to remove cash totally and replace it with digital yuan, etc.
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sethforprivacy
Then propose a solution
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sethforprivacy
Cash solves it by being private and fungible
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inlight
it is, but it is impractical to use it to trade.
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inlight
almost no trader will be sending millions by cash to everyone,
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inlight
govt. will know easily he is taking millions in cash out through atms (and could raise a suspicious activity)
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inlight
unless it is a organised crime group (or something) , they do this way.
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sethforprivacy
No one said p2p DEXs are ideal for large-liquidity trading, as they're not
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sethforprivacy
No one is pitching that lol
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sethforprivacy
If you want millions in liquidity without concern for taint or illicit funds use an exchange
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inlight
let says even 20 people trading 20,000$ daily by p2p
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inlight
even for lower-liquidity trading, p2p has risks
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orly_owl
if you're trading in 7 figures or more you should be doing OTC
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sethforprivacy
yeah this is a pointless "problem" being raised
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inlight
but- i've yet to face the risk, so i'll keep using it (fingers crossed)
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inlight
no, i'am the buyer (who sell monero to get btc) , but the trader on other side- what is their money is dirty, even if i exchange 3 figures i am at risq
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orly_owl
mine btc then
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entry1[m]
Assets from any source investigated being investigated by the feds can be an issue. XMR doesn't ensure you will receive "clean" funds when you leave the blockchain. Unless you melt precious metals or have unmarked bills, you can be tracked in a sense.
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entry1[m]
s/investigated//
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inlight
sorry , btc was typo - who sell buyer to get money (fiat)
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entry1[m]
XMR isnt the best way to be a criminal or launder large amounts of cash.
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ceoofdogenero[m]
entry1[m]: How do criminal do it?
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ceoofdogenero[m]
Cash?
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inlight
shell companies
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orly_owl
real estate!
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snex
learn basic poker strategy. hang out in casinos. theres your p2p cash exchange
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inlight
entry1[m]: you and others are being vague (what is large amount), well even if u exchange 1$- if the seller on other side is criminal, you are at risk. but yah.
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orly_owl
snex: why bother learning? just buy $1m in chips, lose $50k or so and cash out again
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snex
because if youre going to be there a lot, you need to at least break even
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inlight
one solutions is eveyone should use monero, from farmer to big corps
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entry1[m]
inlight: People do p2p trading with thousands of dollars without issue all the time
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entry1[m]
What amount are you referring to?
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snex
and you need to be there a lot before you can buy $1m in chips from other players
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inlight
entry1[m]: from CEX ? right.
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sech1
entry1 there are issues with mobile payment systems. Scammers can make their victims send their monery to you, to pay for your XMR
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sech1
then you'll have big problems with your bank
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sech1
*their money
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inlight
if you are doing from p2p like localmonero or haveno.- you are playing blind game
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nioc
I have no idea as I don't have the problem of what to do with millions in cash
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sech1
this is why many sellers on LocalMonero require KYC
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inlight
unless you wanna pay tax gains
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inlight
and in china, p2p won't work- you'll get arrested easily
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inlight
it is the intersection of digital and physical !
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orly_owl
nioc: everyone else in here does, evidently
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snex
even chinese can go "gamble" in macau
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entry1[m]
sech1: I would never take bank or mobile payments for p2p
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inlight
if that is your answer then lol, forget whole country using it >.<
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inlight
it will always be limited to 20% people using it
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inlight
80% wil be ignored and keep screaming no-kyc
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snex
crypto wont succeed by building fiat off-ramps. it will succeed by building alternative economies
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snex
you want crypto to participate in those economies? sell goods and services for it.
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snex
there are crypto job boards. join them. take jobs
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inlight
^ nice answer
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orly_owl
cryptojob
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snex
there are also landlords who will take crypto for rent. not many but theyre out there
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snex
if you own property you can become one
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snex
and im dead serious about hanging around in poker rooms. completely unmonitored p2p cash flowing constantly
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orly_owl
yup
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orly_owl
and they tidy up and hookers you kill
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cryptogrampy[m]
<luigi1112> "can we have a community meeting..." <- monerobull: ?
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monerobull[m]
monerobull, condemmer of shitty proposals, sure
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cryptogrampy[m]
monerobull[m]: based and scrupulous-pilled
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monerobull[m]
s/condemmer/condemner/
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monerobull[m]
i dont have time right now, if anyone wants to set up the github issue, go ahead, i can moderate. is saturday fine?
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plowsof[m]
shall i spend a week making a script to get "a. Title - link" from the ccs ideas page
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plowsof[m]
we are nothing without carrington
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cryptogrampy[m]
plowsof[m]: yes
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plowsof[m]
ok has to be done
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Siren[m]
<snex> "there are also landlords who..." <- In which country can I find those?
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snex
usa
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Siren[m]
Bummer too far
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inlight
haha too far
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nioc
there is a dev meeting and monerokon meeting on Sat, 1700 and 1800
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raas[m]
<cryptogrampy[m]> "HELLO DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN..." <- If you know the ten rules of monero i may be able to arrange something
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cryptogrampy[m]
<nioc> "there is a dev meeting and..." <- wow perfect everyone will already be around
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cryptogrampy[m]
π
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plowsof[m]
luigi1111
getwishlisted.xyz/meeting_template.html i will be sending my invoice to management , 5$ + 10 cent every time someone copies it. updates daily, Thanks!
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luigi1112
hello, management?
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plowsof[m]
i will be joining will.k in a class action lawsuit , you have been served!
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luigi1112
yeah the council is def causing issues and should be sued
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inlight
lawsuit reagrding ?
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plowsof[m]
just joking inlight_ ποΈ