"The Monero Casino dice proposal" <- I've messaged him to join here

Thanks! (i was contacted by him via PM, but because of his [redacted] setup he had connectivity issues.. lets hope he arrives ^^

He messaged me couple of months back and I've pointed him that running unlicensed crypto gambling is near impossible

but he did put a lot of his time into the coding

it's interesting to make it for friends and family

thx selsta

Just so y'all are aware of this nonsensical drama pushed by ErCiccione, I am leaving a couple links here for everyone to see. Won't clutter the room with extra commentary beyond these two, but I am open to rebuttals and follow-ups from whoever decides to engage. Thanks.

fuck off with this drama

how to handle this then hm

plowsof: which?

My own life, and also the twitter drama above, now im seeing a reddit thread asking about monero observer source

one problem at a time please everyone 😁

Didn't have time to read drama posts but I love both ErCiccione and Anthony, they are genuine to monero that's only important

ErCiccione should finish Haveno, become rich and also fill the General Fund from fees

Anthony needs to keep raising his voice because the community tends to be really silent often and we don't want another blockstream

we also don't need drama queens and posers

we need opinions on the 2 latest CCS ideas too monero-project/meta #704 and/or topics on everyones mind 👀.. trusted node list .. malicious nodes... ? testnet fork 😮

trusted node list will only be fore GUI simple mode?

Yep!

FeatherWallet has a trusted node list too

"trusted" is very hard to define

<MajesticExchange> "Anthony needs to keep raising..." <- there are others that make more noise (and less whining), its just that all negative criticism is deemed "not meaningful" or framed as an attack on monero

plowsof[m]: yep, and monerujo

but Feather is tor only

I done some research myself - 3000 transactions on 800~ nodes, didn't find a high fee. And the smart people said the attack can even be a 'pop up shop' type event.. where they rent hash power - put up a node - and theyre gone

i dont think its an issue - as long as there it is clear that these are "suggested" defaults that should ideally be replaced by your own node

that + the hard cap on fees in the wallet software itself seems like a decent fix

not everyone will run a node nor should they be expected to

majesticbank gave me an undisclosed amount of moneroj to carry out that day or 2 of research so i am his shill : full disclosure!

the trusted node list 'is' happening

haha it's not even worth mentioning

and you are doing great work

plowsof[m]: as long as its a wallet side thing i dont see an issue

how node is picked from random list?

*trusted list

oh, and monero .fail has nodes that exist on a ban list / naughty - i thought they where 'vetted' but its not the case

monerujo's node feature works well

the 'trusted list' logic has not been created yet .. so suggestions are welcome

like.. connect to a random node in the list?

feather wallet uses feature broadcast to all nodes

plowsof[m]: monerujo scans for the fastest node and connect to that one

within an already defined favorite list

so you can connect to a different node each time depending on its status

tor keeps using same entry guard for 2-3 months

interesting ^

<MajesticExchange> "Anthony needs to keep raising..." <- There are plenty of people besides him who can raise it without being toxic about it if it's really an issue. Anthony does juvenile stuff like try to dox people if they don't prioritize a bug to his liking /shrug

plowsof: in case one of trusted node is logging, it would limit how many users of simple mode

the term 'trusted' is a bit misleading, rather - 'a smaller pool' of nodes that we could run tests on to make sure they're honest / healthy

xmrscott[m]: yeah he plays the same game as ercic

it can observe

theres a reason hes been kicked out of every community hes been a part of, not just monero

plowsof[m]: default > trusted ?

better yeah

default/suggested/"community"

ah yes community was used already

"Community node list"

say they are nodes run by known devs/builders in monero

like monerujo, feather, rino, etc

so we have someone to be mad at if something goes wrong 😁

haha

majestic is running some nodes

so "known" entities

yeah, i rented 4 dedicated servers just for remote nodes

that people can look up and verify for themselves

like i can copy paste majestic's node and pull it up on their website (if listed) to verify

MajesticBank: based

that can provide access to also, we can have sponsored nodes

or css funded nodes

chain analysis companies are running alot of nodes , they will be sad

shame

they have money to pay reddit shills though to push the 'monero is centralized with the default list' agenda

popcorn at the ready

its just the gui wallet

true

how does it work currently

never used GUI

you are given the option of 3 modes , bootstrap / simple / advanced - bootstrap connects to a remote node while monerod syncs in the background

most users want to use monero asap so will choose simple/bootstrap and use a remote node

yeah how does simple mode work

you choose simple and then what

it have hard-coded list of seed nodes

so whats the difference

grab their peer-list and pick random node from that?

those nodes had to be chosen to begin with

my peer list is infested with banned / evil nodes

i've connected to them all and attempted to broadcast a transaction with my real ip RIP

>how does simple mode work

I honestly don't know exactly... something to do with DNS .. networking magic .. theres a gray list .. white list...

what wrong with seed nodes?

they are trusted already

cryptogrampy: whats the minimum free space needed for termux node?

i get: "Not enough free space. 46G available. 45G required"

github says 50 but script says 45

r4v3r23: it was 45GB, 50 now

i've forgot what bash is, but it is indeed 50 now ofrnxmr ?

searches what does -gt mean

Greater than :P

<xmrscott[m]> "There are plenty of people..." <- This is all a perpetuated lie that you and just a handful other people believe in. No one has ever seen any proof of such actual doxxing. Keep repeating the lie long enough, it will become your truth, not the actual truth.

* will become **your, * your** truth,

* This is all a perpetuated lie that you and just a handful other people believe in. No one has ever seen any proof of such actual "doxxing". Keep repeating the lie long enough, it will become **your** truth, not the actual truth.

When I tried to hash it all out with you in that private room, you had no better response other than "this is all cluttering my screen", either post something "useful" or I am going to leave the room by the end of the day.

So, I am sorry, your majesty xmrscott, because I have attempted, directly, to amend this all, and the only comeback I got was... "don't clutter my screen".

Maybe next time someone tries to have a conversation with you, you don't react with that nonsense. Thanks.

It's not a secret. Easy enough to find the deleted tweet where he got called out by the privacy community. I don't think anyone here is going to post the actual doxxed info because that would only perpetrate the dox

Maybe next time you don't like a bug existing patch it yourself instead of doxing

xmrscott[m]: Do you even know what doxxing conveys? Posting full names, full addresses, full identity. There was no doxxing. If you are so certain it was a doxxing activity, go ahead and prove it. Else, stop spreading **lies**.

Indeed I do. Shame you don't and want people to redox the people you dislike

I never "doxxed" anyone. This is way overblown.

xmrscott[m]: This is a waste of gunpowder and time for everyone in here, young man. Keep believing in your own bubble. Just know there are others who are disgusted with the way you have managed this situation.

Says the person who harasses fp on -pools and elsewhere publicly hoping people don't watch

All the rooms are cluttered with rottenwheel's alts in the ban list under the premise of libera.chat policy violations while I just keep coming back, using the same platform you keep doubling down and saying I violated the terms of?

Completely nonsensical.

(Directed at the rotten alt)

Anyways said my bit, highlighted where anyone can independently verify. Peace out :)

xmrscott[m]: Whatever happened between I and FP is our own business. Do you notice how many times you keep stretching it all?

xmrscott[m]: Sure thing, dear.

<plowsof[m]> "i've forgot what bash is, but it..." <- To be precise

Currently

49048928256 bytes (45.68GB)

2c.... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…49f0651fa3e16986161d5d76262cb3368c9)

And I've watched ercic delete "threats" that were, again, far from anything any realistic person would consider a threat. Perhaps there's a language barrier. Perhaps ercic and anth need to put on boxing gloves and Duke it out for some wownero.

Either way its all a bunch of KID shit and ercic is NOT being the bigger man. He's being a big Fkn baby

Whining on twitter to localmonero and monero

Who's the one trying to shit oj the project now???

Justin went to BAT for erc over zcash and took a lot of the backlash off of ercic..... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…be2d847c14ce03ab507eb367b6eb8e60ae5)

has anyone heard of a company called Cognyte/Blink? Apparently they can use packet captures to identify wallet metadata which means they can identify Monero transaction broadcasts. It is alledged that they can then use timing analysis and "algorithms" to pinpoint which transaction on the blockchain is linked to the observed broadcast. I thought Dandalion++ would make this difficult, any thoughts? is this a privacy risk or a non issue,

apparently using ToR isnt enough to stop the analysis but VPN's can be a bit trickier, seems like using both at the same time is a possible answer

You can pad the tor traffic

To do that, they have to MITM your connection

And you can use exclusive onions and disable dandelion to send transactions out of specific nodes.

In theory, a padded tor tx sent to some other onion is the same as using a VPN over tor - the original source shouldn't be able to be identified.

hi

i was trying to setup a monero node on ubuntu server but now y have / with no space, how anyone tellme where i can find a guide to clean de monero bbdd on my computer?

Should be located in home directory

.bitmonero/lmdb/data.mdb

(Are you using Linux?)

yes

ubuntu server

🤪lol i have a short memory

but the hard drive no has very much capacity

Thats where the blockchain is stored by default.

it was sinchronycing and stopped

Did you prune it? Pruned it is 46gb

no, i didnt prued it

pruned

Do you have enough space for 46gb?

If so

Delete the blockchain and sync from scratch

Add the

--prune-blockchain

to the command

Or prune-blockchain=1 to the config (if you use a config)

yes 46Gb y have when could clean the other installation

thank you!

<cheekyleeks> "nttr.stream/rottenwheel..." <- I think monero would be better off without rottenwheel and similar toxic people. I dont understand why he is still allowed to post his shit in the monero gitlab and elsewhere.

> <@w:monero.social> 2c.... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…579ac8be08fa51d47ba274fcca9779eb32c)

I think he has some kind of personality disorder. Or maybe he is just an asshole. I dont know. But I think it would be best to ban him wherever possible

he banned me too from the crypto anarchism group

just for asking a question he didnt like

the guy is nuts. And people like this a are repellent for people with skills that want to contribute.

* the guy is nuts. And people like this are a repellent for people with skills that want to contribute.

<spirobel[m]> "> <@w:monero.social> 2c...." <- Revuo spreads negativity everywhere?

Revue doesnt benefit monero?

s/Revue/Revuo/

Even if Revuo were monero's golden goose (which it is not), it does not justify all the surrounding toxicity

Im not standing up for anybody, just calling a spade a spade. Ercicc does do a lot to benefit monero, im not saying he doesnt.

Im saying that doesnt give him a free pass to have a god complex

w[m]: revuo is just some copy and paste garbage that anyone could do in 5 minutes.

the amount of work eric has done is a different league.

Haters gonna hate

A lot of people dont like your CCS, so?

w[m]: I dont think so. I had many people say positive things.

Revuo, whether great or not, isnt anti monero

w[m]: it is the lame excuse to still have him around.

Ercic and rotten have a problem with each other.

just ban him

That has absolutely fucking nothing to do with @monero

w[m]: nobody like rotten. he is just an asshat and he should be shown the door.

s/like/likes/

You're frazzled

Rotten posts a blog

@monero tweets it

Your solition

Ban rotten

On the sauce yo.

* Your solution

yes. just get rid of him entirely. Toxic people and negative people repel people that just want to build in peace.

The public call out of localmonero and @monero isnt excusable

he is holding monero back with his garbage personality

So get rid of ercic too

spirobel[m]: How?

By writing a blog?

By kicking you out of his group?

w[m]: what ever it is forgiven. Rotten is such a garbage person that it does not matter what the people on the other side did.

Butt hurt weirdos man

w[m]: no. He actually works and does good stuff.

w[m]: by being an asshole everywhere

Again, im not standing up for him. You guys are making him out to be fireice or something when he's just a guy that writes a pro monero news letter.

Why is everyone all pussy? Because ercic wants him gone lmao

Pissy*

> <@w:monero.social> Again, im not standing up for him. You guys are making him out to be fireice or something when he's just a guy that writes a pro monero news letter.

>

> Why is everyone all pussy? Because ercic wants him gone lmao

not just eric wants him gone. Me too. And other people dont like him as well.

spirobel[m]: Thats ercic on twitter

Take your blinders off

> <@w:monero.social> Thats ercic on twitter

> Take your blinders off

I am talking about rotten. He is being an asshole everywhere. Eric is okay.

Well create a company and fire him

Oh wait...

There was a little girl, Who had a little curl,

Right in the middle of her forehead.

When she was good, She was very good indeed,

But when she was bad she was horrid.

Days since Monero drama ______

spirobel[m]: Nah

Ercic asked for help then shit on the people who tried to help him

As I said, this bullshit is bullshit and haters gonna hate

> <@w:monero.social> Again, im not standing up for him. You guys are making him out to be fireice or something when he's just a guy that writes a pro monero news letter.

>

> Why is everyone all pussy? Because ercic wants him gone lmao

yeah and all he does is this shitty copy and paste newsletter and the rest of the day he just spreads negativity everywhere.

How about everyone stfu and we are who throws the next stone

w[m]: I think eric will be much more relaxed once rotten is gone.

s/are/see/

We should just get rid of rotten. It is better for monero.

And?? WTF does that have to do with @monero

All we lose is his copy and paste shit. No big loss

w[m]: @monero shouldnt repost garbage people like rotten. period.

What would be good for monero

If if ercic stopped being a baby in public and took his grievances to private channels

There's no need for any of this bullshit on twitter

w[m]: asshats like rotten always take shit into the public. You cant always take the high road. At some point you need to call people out.

Talking about rotten is bad but ignoring the lead haveno Dev shitting on localmonero and monero twitters in public?

Like he couldnt have contacted them in a 1-1 chat? Like he doesnt KNOW who runs those channels?

spirobel[m]: Called out @MONERO

and anyone who reposts his copy and paste garbage newsletter gives him face and legitimacy

that should not happen

Says you

Fluffypony can tweet about coinbase though right?

Grow up

> <@w:monero.social> Talking about rotten is bad but ignoring the lead haveno Dev shitting on localmonero and monero twitters in public?

>

> Like he couldnt have contacted them in a 1-1 chat? Like he doesnt KNOW who runs those channels?

sometimes 1-1 is not enough because people dont listen. They dont understand they make a mistake to give any credence to copy and paste shit by rotten.

w[m]: anyone needs to be called out that reposts rottens garbage.

Were got bigger fish to Fry than bad man wrote blog

w[m]: seems like you are in love with rotten

spirobel[m]: So

TAKE IT PRIGATE

the great savior of monero lol

no

I decided to stand up for Justin or whoever wrote the post

w[m]: so why you defend your prince so hard?

pity the people finding this scrollback

Because Justin stood up for ercic

And he gets repayed 2 weeks later by a public attack on his credibility

spirobel[m]: Lets not go there. There's only one person with sore knees in this argument

w[m]: if you repost the same asshole that spreads bad vibes everywhere you deserve to be called out.

So monero.observer isnt worth either

Or are you just a hater

w[m]: it is great

Cant have it both ways

just rottens stuff is shit

The great thing about monero, is youre free to have your opinion

And ercic has a lot more to lose for himself and monero than rotten

first 3 lines of monero moon you read "This was discussed in a recently dev meeting on the"

scroll scroll scroll

we're sponsoring that

w[m]: so we have not much to lose by just kicking rotten out of the community. We will all be much more productive without him. One asshole in the group destroys the morale. So just get rid of the asshole and everything will be much better.

Get rid of vik

Get rid of juatin

Because they are detremental to ercic to getmonero.org ccs

By building monero.com

Get rid of seth

For the same reason

honestly what a ridiculous comparison. To compare rotten to these people just shows how deluded you are. Maybe you are just an rotten alt lol.

Its all bullshit and choosing a side in a shit slinging contest ia dumb as hell. Both sides act like asshats

Maybe I am

🤣🤣

w[m]: if you ever talk with rotten you will soon be covered in shit. so it is hard to blame him. Eric does actual work. So just ban rotten.

w[m]: yeah maybe you are

Ni

Ive never banned anyone in my life

* Ive never banned anyone in my life

Edit: blocked or banned

1-1 chats are wide open. If someone has something to say, I dont just plug my ears and act like a 4yr old.

The Monero community is 15 people with alts, they can not be banned as they will just make new irc accounts... we're a disfunctional family that must try to keep peace somehow

@plowsof

What were you saying before?

Im actually plowsof alt 🍿

banning a hateful person merely enrages them, drives their motivation

.... alt personality 😎.

Probably alt location, mom, dad... we might not be the same person.

IMHO its done worse

Its made ercic paronoid

Instead of dealinf with rotten, he thinks rotten is every handle that doesnt agree with him

* dealinf with the main "rotten, * rotten" account, he

But plowsof, what did you mean by the monero moon post?

i read some comments here and there about monero moon being poorly written so i tried to read one, and i noticed a blatant error in the first 3 lines

it can easily be fixed by the author, but to see it in the first 3 lines is not encouraging

is monero moon poorly written? is this a one off?

I'd be curious to know when it's okay to attack a person working on monero/building out monero tech.

and i do mean attacking the person, not technically critiquing the code being pushed forward

<plowsof[m]> "banning a hateful person..." <- it does not matter. just ban all the alts until he gives up and ignore everything he does and especially dont repost it. And tell everyone that associating with this person is social suicide. The morale of the people that actually want to do work gets hit by these trash people. We cant let that happen.

<spirobel[m]> "I think he has some kind of..." <- personality disorder for sure. he displays all the symptoms of delusional mental illness. the long form "rebuttals" that say absolutely nothing of worth, the infinite sock accounts, the victim complex. its textbook

<spirobel[m]> "he banned me too from the crypto..." <- same. he acts like a fuhrer and poses as an anarchist

cryptogrampy: will the pruned node grow beyond the 50G or will it keep the most current 50G worth of data

it will grow forever :(

ive got a phone with 64G storage but after system data etc it barely cuts it

ah fuck

unless theres a cli version of android XD

r4v3r23[m]: It will grow

ofrnxmr[m]: at what rate?

how long will 100G last?

An extremely rough estimate.. 2 years months

* An extremely rough estimate.. 2 years

Assuming there is an increase in on chain usage.

decent

meaning the extra 50G will last 2 years

I use a 128GB SD for my pruned and a 256 for my full

if i get a 128G device

wicked

i might just get one of those new samsung microsd

ive got an RPi that i can start/stop/autoconnect with no screen

plug in: autoconnects to network and boots monerod, press button and closes monerod and shutsdown safely

easy as fuck

running pruned nodes also helps the network yeah?

<r4v3r23[m]> "cryptogrampy: will the pruned..." <- i believe the size of a pruned is always 1/3rd the size of full, but don't quote me

read some where that we actually need more running

yes

ok il do that then

you still have to open the p2p port to help the network otherwise you're leeching

unless you're sharing rpc or something :)

<r4v3r23[m]> "running pruned nodes also..." <- Yup. If I understand correctly, full nodes are not needed for the network (hope im correct on this). Pruned nodes discard a random 7/8 of extra data, but 1/7 if that days exists on another pruned node.... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…3cd51fde12740ad71c6f401178ac1b87d9e)

always been a fan of pruned nodes

glad to see they have a use in monero

ofrnxmr[m]: that sounds correct, full nodes aren't needed but there have to be enough pruned nodes so that a full node can be built again

would be interesting to see if the daemon could automatically detect how much it needs and have some kinda network RAID dealie. but that could be bad if too many nodes unexpectedly drop

<plowsof[m]> "is monero moon poorly written..." <- I'm sorry to say I have a really hard time getting though Monero Moon because it is visually very cluttered and there are plentiful grammar/syntax errors. But there's something out there for everyone, I guess

What would be dope would be an easy set up for a Raspberry Pi to run a monero full node. I bought one to run a Get Umbrella BTC node but would rather set it up for XMR instead. It was so easy for a nontechnical user like me. Could the monero community do something similar? Create an 'inage' you flash to the SD card which goes into the Raspberry Pi?

*get Umbrel

Pinode

It's just REALLY slow on a pi because lack of physical AES module

😂😂

Damn, exactly the thing thanks

Really slow to sync the blockchain? I remember syncing blockchain for BTC took almost a week

Yeah, might take 2 for xmr

A pine 64 rock pro would be much better for this

As it has an AES chip

<monerobull[m]> "It's just REALLY slow on a pi..." <- forgot about that

I already have the blockchain synced to my desktop in monero GUI. I take it if I was smart enough, I could copy the blockchain to the Pi?

yes

assuming you're smart enough, of course

Perhaps this weekend we will find out ;)

But once the blockchain is synced (however its done), the Pi4 will function adequately, or is the lack of an AES chip an ongoing problem?

It will work fine

<ossaix[m]> "I already have the blockchain..." <- Linux?

If yes just copy the Blockchain file to an SSD and then hook up this SSD to the pi

monerobull[m]: Yes. Okay thank you

Let us know if you need any help

Appreciate it monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: :)

Speaking of time consuming blockchain synchronisation, how often is the online raw download generated?

Maybe it is once per day, or once per point release?

what was the option to fix chats again?

resetting cache in matrix?

at the bottom of settings -> help and about

msvb-web iirc it was on a weekly basis or something. But there's no significant advantage of going that route to sync a node, unless it's an offline one or you have a very bad connection