Morpheus: thanks for the chart updates. can you add monero

* add monero's pruned size to the blockchain chart?

<𝙲𝙴𝚁𝚄𝙻𝙴𝙾𝚄𝚂>

<𝙲𝙴𝚁𝚄𝙻𝙴𝙾𝚄𝚂> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO where is the m1 binary aaaaaaaaa

<r4v3r23[m]> "Morpheus: thanks for the chart..." <- Hey bro. Sure, pruned block chain size is on my To Do list already, but it might take a while before I plot it. Does anyone have any idea how could I get this number without having to run a node myself?

I would be very happy if there's some external data source for that xD

<Morpheus[m]> "Hey bro. Sure, pruned block..." <- Run a node :D

Can get all sorts of useful data just by running a node :D

Nice to know. Thanks, man. I'll probably have to run one indeed. XD

You can run nodes on android devices (phones, TV boxes, tablets)

So you dont need a dedicated high power device or anything like that

I'll try to run a node inside the server itself, it might just take some while before I do that

Just adequate storage (rec 128gb for pruned 512 for full. To prepare for steady increases in tx volume etc. The bigger the better as there will be less write cycles )

If you have a spare android device, fire one up to play with 😝

Pretty much a yes yes yes ok stop asking me proceed

Install

(Semi automated using prompts)

Tor setup requires no port forwarding etc

Thanks, bro

Very nice community we have here

dEBRUYNE is there still no post about v0.18 release in r/monero? Or did I messed up my filters :D

<sech1> "dEBRUYNE is there still no..." <- Delayed again?

its released. debruyne was probably asleep when it happened, im sure he will announce when he reads the msg 😃

unless someone wants to farm precious updoots before him

we're talking serious updoots here

did no one announce it here? x.x

reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/w3leuc…0_fluorine_fermi_released_scheduled 👍️

dEBRUYNE GPG signed hashes point to 0.17.3.2

in the reddit post

> <@plowsof:matrix.org> did no one announce it here? x.x

> getmonero.org/2022/07/19/monero-GUI-0.18.0.0-released.html

> getmonero.org/2022/07/19/monero-0.18.0.0-released.html

Trying to figure out how to update my Ledger to use this latest GUI (it instructs me to do so). Nothing listed on Ledger's site. Suggestions?

Ledger software is not ready yet

sech1: Any rumors on when? Wish I wouldn't have updated.

Just use older GUI client (it still work with 0.18 node) and hope ledger release it on time this time.

lol

ok

Ledger has 3 weeks until the fork

as a side, why isn't it a part of Ledger live? is this owing to the privacy feature? it just can't be a part of that

Last commit in Feb 4 lol

eudaimon36[m]: Would you trust them for a wallet app?

It's not some random surveillance coin.

So that is NOT good news

Also, bother ledger

If they think their users dont care, they wont work

There is a pull request for the view tag

> <@al800:0wnz.at> Would you trust them for a wallet app?

> It's not some random surveillance coin.

I see.

so you can pull the repo, apply the pull request localy and build the application yourself

Oh, Jesus, no I certainly can't, LOL!

haha

still a ways away from that level

As I joke, didn't know a router from a modem four months ago.

I'll harass Ledger or change cold wallets

So if you use Ledger Live Manager to install applications for a coin, that creates a hot wallet on the platform? And since this is not something Monero users would want, the app isn't available there?

eudaimon36[m]: Probably something like that.

You would not want the monero wallet engineered like all the other Ledger Live wallet (I think it send the public key on the server and scan for the TX you own or something like that).

Doing the same thing with Monero would blow of the "Privacy" part

So they would have to make a different live wallet just for monero, at that point, just make the ledger app and let the monero peoples integrate it to the Monero wallet instead

I just installed their latest firmware update and it deleted my Monero wallet anyway, so...

sech1: Thanks, fixing

sech1: who made the cool graphic? :)

what graphic?

<gnuteardrops[m]> "I created one for v18: https://..." <- ^^^

<gnuteardrops[m]> "I created one for v18: https://..." <- Very voolz

* Very cool

At some point we should release version 1.0

Maybe with Seraphis

bitscorn is not on 1.0 yet

<ofrnxmr[m]> "If they think their users dont..." <- Bothered them. Not sure they cared even then. Web support had no idea, and Discord support just ignored me.

Looks like switching from Ledger.

eudaimon36[m]: trezor users will also have a couple days where they can't transact

Ledger code seam to be done, They probably just wanted to wait for the Monero release so they can test and validate it before releasing there app.

As long as they release before the fork it will be fine.

> <@al800:0wnz.at> Ledger code seam to be done, They probably just wanted to wait for the Monero release so they can test and validate it before releasing there app.

>

> As long as they release before the fork it will be fine.

That's good to know. I wish their support team knew it.

dEBRUYNE: we have new mac binaries, can you update your post?

for CLI we now have separate Intel and ARM binaries

Move versioning to 1.0 upon inclusion of Seraphis protocol monero-project/meta #721

<monerobull[m]> "Very voolz" <- Awesome

Now that v0.18.0.0 is out, we need to notify exchanges and wallets ASAP to be sure as much of the ecosystem as possible is up to date before the fork!

If you use one of these wallets/exchanges (or not!) and have a few minutes to reach out to them it would be a *huge* help to the Monero community.

You can find the list here, please do not reach out to the ones already marked off, and feel free to tag me here once you've contacted one (or comment in the issue) so that I can check them off):

For wallets, mentioning this tag will usually be most helpful: github.com/monero-project/monero/tree/release-v0.18

For exchanges, mentioning this blog post will be most helpful: getmonero.org/2022/07/19/monero-0.18.0.0-released.html

I put a warning on p2pool.io :)

sech1: Thanks 😄

Why laugh, I have 1500 page visits/month :D

Heh, it wasn't a laugh, was just the dumb emoji translation in Matrix! Was supposed to be the : D excited face

sethforprivacy: should we update DNS for CLI only for now?

since Ledger is still incompatible with v0.18 it might be better to wait with activating the GUI auto updater

selsta: Probably a good call

selsta: Annoying that this breaks existing code pre-fork

It shouldn't require the new version until >fork height 😕

I didn't realize that's how it worked

Ledger version locks their app...

Yeah...

sgp_: is this proposal still relevant? monero-project/monero #6688

or can it be closed?

selsta: It's still relevant, but consensus seems to point towards not adopting it

I maintain it would be a privacy enhancement, but it comes with some complexity

and after seraphis?

<selsta> "and after seraphis?" <- I'm not 100% sure, but I don't see why Seraphis would be any different. Perhaps even smaller gains percentage wise, but otherwise the same

<sgp[m]> "It's still relevant, but..." <- I think its worth looking into, especially if p2pool adoption outpaces transaction growth or ring size

Ive seen some transactions recently with 3 or 4 coinbase ring members

> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> I think its worth looking into, especially if p2pool adoption outpaces transaction growth or ring size

> Ive seen some transactions recently with 3 or 4 coinbase ring members

It's arguably less important with p2pool

So you have a coinbase output. This normally goes to a pool only, or solo miners

Then you have pool miners, who could get a coinbase "+1" output

* Then you have pool miners, who could get a coinbase "+1" output

Without p2pool, one knows miners won't ever actually spend coinbase outputs. Just coinbase +1. Only pools would realistically spend coinbase outputs

P2pool generates a lot of 0/1 (for each miner), or am I wrong?

Actually idk how p2pool works. Who gets the first coinbase output?

Good question.. ^^ thanks ill see what I can find too

Okay my impression was right

Take block 2671670

There are 91 coinbase outputs that go directly to "retail" miners

So, because of p2pool being adopted, it's convincing to say you could have spent a coinbase output as a normal person

Yup, my mistake 🙃

<selsta> "and after seraphis?" <- It can be closed not because of Seraphis, but because of p2pool. I'll close with a comment

sgp[m] 377 outputs here: xmrchain.net/tx/785b2c4325ade249f8f…ec5437e5d820ac8cc70c6fe0f2e9765f873

That's a lot of outputs