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plowsof
The Monero GUI takes 10 seconds to start syncing (you see 'Connecting'... after opening your wallet). Its fixed now thanks to  selsta  who found/implemented the method that tobtoht uses in Feather .  Pull req here:https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/3994 
 
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r4v3r23[m]
wen feather as official gui
 
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nikg83[m]
<r4v3r23[m]> "wen feather as official gui" <- When it supports starting localnode 😅
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> When v0.18 for cake 😦
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> Adds cake pay but not v0.18 … I see I see sneaky huh hahaha
 
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zoom0ut
The current block height is 2,684,346. Fork height is 2,688,888. 4,542 blocks to go, happening in approximately 151.40 hours.
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
<bridgerton[m]> "<joshhavepigdog> When v0.18..." <- This week 🍿
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
ios v0.18 is done, android and then release im guessing..
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
<bridgerton[m]> "<joshhavepigdog> Adds cake pay..." <- 😅 I had similar sentiments.
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
Should have released v0.18 first or delayed cakepay until v0.18 was ready. My 2c (I shared with cake but was late, train had left the station)
 
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evalda[m]
Haha I checked all my wallets to make sure v0.18... All good 😅
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
GUI and feather are good
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mobile wallets = none yet 
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
(Full wallets)
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mymonero is and I'd assume edge and exodus as well
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> I didn’t catch that by using cake pay with gift cards you actually get a discounted rate from the merchant/store ? I wonder how they are able to offer such an advantage for purchasers?
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> I still am skeptical of cake pay, but the discount makes it a slightly more tempting tradeoff
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
bridgerton[m]: Bulk gift card puchases would sound like the deal here 
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
bridgerton[m]: Lmao 🥲 youre the worse 
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
Save 3% on McDonalds... ayyyeee I'll use compromise of my ideas for that!
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ideals*
 
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plowsof
Could people sell cake giftcards on local monero? 
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
Pretty sure 
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its just a barcode :P
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
The cool thing about the cards is that its like an offramp, cutting out the bank and exchange (cake is the middleman/exchange) and offering lower (or negative) fees 
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
And 0 slippage? 
 
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zoom0ut
McDonalds gift card?  yuck   
 
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zoom0ut
 
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zoom0ut
s/for/with
 
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zoom0ut
or both
 
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r4v3r23[m]
> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> 😅 I had similar sentiments.
 
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r4v3r23[m]
> Should have released v0.18 first or delayed cakepay until v0.18 was ready. My 2c (I shared with cake but was late, train had left the station)
 
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r4v3r23[m]
they dont make money off of the hardfork
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
T-minus 5 days to release and hope it reaches everyone
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
Auto updates are ok, but a lot of monero folks dont mess with google play. IMO a mandatory update with a timeframe vs a feature update with strict release timeline, makes nonsense to rush out the feature release..
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
Example...
 
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ofrnxmr[m]
Joshpigdog guy is totally confused why we has to update for v0.18 and even skeptical but 3% off on McDonalds gift cards has him more than ready to upgrade
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> Lol that is not my position
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> I was just ignorant as to why updating PRIOR TO the fork is beneficial
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> And if my understanding is correct, the rationale is that upgrading pre-fork keeps your wallet balance up to date on the correct chain (not showing dated data) and keeps you from having to sync more past blocks.
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> Upgrading to the correct chain is essential in Monero. I understood that even prior to my questioning. It’s just the emphasis on updating pre-fork which I didn’t understand.
 
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BusyBoredom[m]
The biggest reason to upgrade pre-fork is that if you forget and send monero after the fork from an old wallet, you'll be transacting on a sidechain which can severely harm your privacy. 
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> I just said it was slightly tempting. I’m pretty dogmatic so the cake pay thing is not all that interesting.
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> Ah yes there is that aspect too
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> Good point. I appreciate you reminding me of that
 
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BusyBoredom[m]
transacting on a fork* not a sidechain. Just woke up, brain still mush.
 
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bridgerton[m]
<joshhavepigdog> All good man. I understood what you meant. I’m not too large of a stickler for the precise tech word. I’m a rube myself anyways
 
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zoom0ut
wen gift cards to buy morenero
 
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vikCake[m]
<r4v3r23[m]> ""comply first" is baked into the..." <- what?
 
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vikCake[m]
<zoom0ut> "wen gift cards to buy morenero" <- soon?
 
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vikCake[m]
> <@r4v3r23:matrix.org> "comply first" is baked into the cake
 
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vikCake[m]
 * what? what are you talking about?
 
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selsta
vikCake[m]: used the monero.com wallet for some testing the past days and it worked really well. only once i noticed a bug where wallet sync was slow and it got fixed by adding a second node.
 
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selsta
did you get reports about this before? i'm quite sure the node itself wasn't the issue, it seemed like a wallet bug
 
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monerobull[m]
<selsta> "did you get reports about this..." <- Cake always used to be quite slow in syncing before i switched to my own node. I just thought it's because of their node getting so much traffic and might be limited 
 
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aremor[m]
Mine has always been very slow to start syncing
 
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selsta
monerobull[m]: it was my own node the whole time
 
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monerobull[m]
selsta: Hm ok
 
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selsta
sync speed is always fine for me, it was just one time where it suddenly was 10x slower
 
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monerobull[m]
I just synced 1.5 k blocks in like 3 seconds 
 
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aremor[m]
monerobull[m]: That usually takes me about a full minute and I’m on a fiber line 
 
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selsta
either you have a really slow phone or you are connected to a bad node
 
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selsta
it should only take a couple seconds
 
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jwinterm[m]
<monerobull[m]> "Cake always used to be quite..." <- Random remote nodes on monerujo has been pretty bad lately
 
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aremor[m]
selsta: iPhone XS Max 
 
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selsta
aremor[m]: can you try seleta2.featherwallet.net ?
 
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selsta
selsta2.featherwallet.net
 
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aremor[m]
Just recording my sync. 800 blocks in 30 seconds.  Plus I actually had to clip some of the video because my pin was on there and then I accidentally showed my transactions. So more like 40 seconds.
 
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aremor[m]
recorded*
 
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ArticMine[m]
r4v3r23: The Cakepay form you quoted opens a privacy can of worms.... (full message at 
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…0cab13bda00b63828ed2adce01148873f30)
 
 
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aremor[m]
selsta: Sure. Just have to wait for about a 12 to 24 hours so enough blocks can pile up I presume 
 
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vikCake[m]
> <@articmine:monero.social> r4v3r23: The Cakepay form you quoted opens a privacy can of worms.... (full message at 
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…b8bede268867ed76b8f77e75e1fafaf888c)
 
 
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vikCake[m]
<selsta> "vik (Cake): used the monero...." <- Thanks for the feedback.  I wonder if the 0.18 will improve the sync issue.
 
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vikCake[m]
> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> 😅 I had similar sentiments.
 
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vikCake[m]
> Should have released v0.18 first or delayed cakepay until v0.18 was ready. My 2c (I shared with cake but was late, train had left the station)
 
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vikCake[m]
we were working on 0.18 parallelly with cake pay.
 
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selsta
vikCake[m]: it only happened once and so far wasn't able to reproduce it again. v0.18 nodes will definitely be more stable
 
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vikCake[m]
 * we were working on 0.18 in parallel with cake pay.
 
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ArticMine
vikCake[m] As I commented in my previous post, I strongly suspect that the responses to the US Federal Form imply non compliance with the GDPR and Canadian Privacy law. I strongly legal advice on this. 
 
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ArticMine
In particular my concern is with with the "marketing" and affiliate sections in 
ionia.docsend.com/view/jaqsmbq9w7dzvnqf 
 
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ArticMine
The US approach to privacy is to force disclosure, and in effect put the onus of enforcement on the individual. I would be very surprised if this privacy policy does not lead to strong "enforcement" by the Monero community 
 
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ArticMine
I strongly suggest legal advice, especially for the EU, Canada and possible California for starters.
 
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ArticMine
As a result of the above I cannot support or endorse Cakepay
 
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ArticMine
This of cpurse has nothing to do with the non custodial functions of Cakewallet
 
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ArticMine
 r4v3r23[m] Thanks for bringing this to my attention