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liliana914[m]
Does anyone know why it’s taking so long for Daemon on Monero wallet to synchronize? We are talking hours. I’m new to this so don’t know if that’s normal
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selsta
it downloads and verifies 8 years worth of transaction history
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selsta
you only have to do sync once and afterwards you always only have to sync the new blocks
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selsta
you can also use a remote node if it takes too long for you
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liliana914[m]
well, this is not the first time I’m syncing this and it’s taken hours for the second time
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liliana914[m]
so, not sure if I’m doing something wrong
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selsta
which version are you using?
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liliana914[m]
18 - latest version
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selsta
v0.18.0.0 or v0.18.1.0?
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liliana914[m]
18.1.0
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selsta
also do you have a HDD or SSD?
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selsta
in general the idea for the daemon is that it is constantly running so that it keeps up with the network
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liliana914[m]
what’s that?
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selsta
if you only start it once per month then it would be better to use a remote node
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liliana914[m]
HDD, SSD?
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selsta
what kind of storage you have, but does not matter if you don't know
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liliana914[m]
I read remote is not as secure and that’s why I hesitated
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selsta
how often do you start monerod?
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liliana914[m]
so many scammers
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liliana914[m]
incredible
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liliana914[m]
i just started using it so been check it out for past 4 days
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selsta
so last time you started it was 4 days ago?
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selsta
what is the output if you go to Settings -> Log and then enter "status"
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liliana914[m]
no it was yesterday
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liliana914[m]
I’ve been Che king it out for past 4 days
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liliana914[m]
Ah, hmmmm, it says. Height 1351284/2692630 (50.2%)…… etc
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liliana914[m]
and it also says it’s not mining whatever that means
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selsta
that's ok
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selsta
you can either wait or use a remote node
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liliana914[m]
net hash 117.95 MH/s, v5, 12 (out)
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selsta
on good hardware it is possible to sync up in 8h, but on windows with a hdd it takes significantly longer
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liliana914[m]
It’s in a MacBook pro
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selsta
which year?
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selsta
approx
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liliana914[m]
on a MacBook Pro 2021
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selsta
M1?
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liliana914[m]
yes
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selsta
ok good to know
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selsta
do you have the blockchain in the default location or did you change it?
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liliana914[m]
if I put on remote, it’s starts from scratch
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liliana914[m]
i don’t know
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liliana914[m]
if it’s default or changed. Can’t remember
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liliana914[m]
how do I check
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selsta
Settings -> Node
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selsta
what does it say as blockchain location? (default)?
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liliana914[m]
it doesn’t say whether it’s default it just says /private/var/folder, etc
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selsta
hmm that is weird
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liliana914[m]
next to blockchain location it says (change)
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liliana914[m]
In orange color
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selsta
did you set this to this weird folder?
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liliana914[m]
no, don’t think so
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selsta
ok let's try this: download the macOS ARM version here:
getmonero.org/downloads/#cli
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liliana914[m]
maybe accident
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selsta
then close the GUI and the daemon
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selsta
then extract the macOS ARM .zip and double click "monerod"
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selsta
it will complain that it is from an unknown developer, I assume you know how to skip that
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selsta
and then check if it continues from 51%
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selsta
the GUI is currently not M1 optimized, only the command line tools are
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selsta
you don't have to do that, but the M1 optimized version will be faster at sync
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liliana914[m]
Oh boy, not sure about this. I typed in website you gave me but it sent me straight to Monero and on address bar it says getmonero.org
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selsta
that's the monero website
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selsta
getmonero.org
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selsta
but if it is too complicated for you you can also wait for it to sync
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liliana914[m]
Yeah, think I’ll wait. I just don’t want to wait this long every time. Thank you for your help🙏🏽
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selsta
it concerns me a bit that it says /private/var/folder
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selsta
that's usually the temp directory
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selsta
which gets deleted on every restart...
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selsta
and you said you synced it once already? and it was gone?
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liliana914[m]
How do I change it? If I press change? I think it will stop the synchronize
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liliana914[m]
yep
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selsta
You can press "Stop daemon" as a first step
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liliana914[m]
ok, then?
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selsta
then go to that folder inside finder, you might have to enable hidden folder
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selsta
Finder -> Go -> Go to folder
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selsta
enter /private/var/folder
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selsta
and check if you find a bitmonero folder
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liliana914[m]
Oh ok
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selsta
if you don't see it you have to enable hidden files inside finder
nordlocker.com/blog/how-to-show-hidden-files-mac
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selsta
Press the “Command” + “Shift” + “.” (period) keys at the same time.
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liliana914[m]
It’s not coming up
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selsta
it should be names bitmonero or .bitmonero
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selsta
named
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selsta
I have never seen that happen for any Mac users so I'm confused why it says /var/private/folder as your location
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liliana914[m]
ok, I’m gonna have to do this later. I’m getting impatient. Geez. Thank you so much for your patience with me. I’ll try later 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
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selsta
usually it is really easy and nothing can go wrong lol
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liliana914[m]
I must have done something accidnet
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liliana914[m]
Accidentally
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selsta
but the M1 MacBook Pro should sync up quite quickly usually
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liliana914[m]
ok, I just accident
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selsta
it is such a weird specific folder that would be difficult to set by accident
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liliana914[m]
Created a new folder with my name and documents
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liliana914[m]
Well, it just created another folder with this “/Users/liliana/Documents/Documents - Liliana’s MacBook pro
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selsta
why not just name it monero-blockchain or something?
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liliana914[m]
Maybe if I reset it?
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liliana914[m]
it named it by itself
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selsta
hmmm
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liliana914[m]
when I pressed the Change icon and asked to confirm new folder
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selsta
ok
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liliana914[m]
should I just reset?
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selsta
well the name should not matter
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liliana914[m]
the reset icon is all the way to the right
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selsta
I was able to create a monero-blockchain folder inside documents and then select that
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selsta
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selsta
You can also just click on Reset and let it download to the default location
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liliana914[m]
Now it’s says default. After pressing reset
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selsta
default location is the easiest
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liliana914[m]
ok, we’ll it’s still moving super slow
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selsta
just changing the blockchain location does not move the existing chain
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selsta
that's why I wanted to to find the existing one in /var/private/folder so that you can move it
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selsta
and what does "super slow" mean? how many hours did you wait?
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liliana914[m]
Since this morning California time
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liliana914[m]
ridiculous
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selsta
like I said you don't have the M1 optimized version
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liliana914[m]
What can I do about that?
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selsta
I explained it previously, you download the macOS ARM version of the CLI wallet here:
getmonero.org/downloads
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selsta
and then simply double click on "monerod" and let it sync
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liliana914[m]
Ok, let me try that
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selsta
keep your laptop open until tomorrow and it should be mostly done
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selsta
but you have close Monero GUI and the daemon first
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liliana914[m]
dont see Monerod here
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selsta
did you download monero-mac-armv8-v0.18.1.0.tar.bz2 and extract it?
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selsta
I definitely see it
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liliana914[m]
ok downloaded Monero-Mac-arm8. Etc
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selsta
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selsta
check the screenshot
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liliana914[m]
ok it’s ok o got that
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liliana914[m]
now what?
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selsta
you right click on it and then press open
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liliana914[m]
Ok it just told me it cannot be opened because it’s from an unidentified developer
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selsta
did you do right click and open?
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selsta
that is just macOS being annoying by blocking all programs from dev that don't pay
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liliana914[m]
How to,override this?
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liliana914[m]
right click? I just have my pad on my mac
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selsta
how do you right click normally?
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liliana914[m]
go to the right of the pad? I don’t know. I feel like an idiot
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selsta
ok, try ctrl + click
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liliana914[m]
oh it did it!
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liliana914[m]
ok so now this new window says process completed on the bottom of a bunch of dates and
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liliana914[m]
other stuff
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selsta
close that and double click on it normally
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selsta
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selsta
it should look like this
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liliana914[m]
shit how do I get back to that window?
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selsta
Terminal in dock
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liliana914[m]
Where is dock?
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selsta
on the bottom of the screen
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selsta
whre your open programs are
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liliana914[m]
im back at that screen where it has Monerod and when I click on it it goes to that same window where it says process completed
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liliana914[m]
I don’t see where it says docs
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selsta
Command + Q
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selsta
and then double click on "monerod" in Finder again
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selsta
Command + Q while the process completed window is seleccted
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selsta
selected
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liliana914[m]
ok I did that and it just makes a popping sound. I got the Monerod highlight and press command + Q
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selsta
Command + Q just means close
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selsta
so you don't see a screen like in my screenshot?
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liliana914[m]
And I did the same thing from that window that said process complete and it took me back to that screen where Monerod is on the bottom
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liliana914[m]
I do
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selsta
did you make sure that monero-gui and the daemon were closed before doing this?
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liliana914[m]
No I don’t have that same screen.
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liliana914[m]
no, just closed it now 😔
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selsta
ok you can't run 2 daemons at once
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liliana914[m]
🥹
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liliana914[m]
Now what?
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selsta
now try double clicking on monerod in finder and see if it stays open
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liliana914[m]
ok, there again😃
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liliana914[m]
Oh now it says it’s synchronization started etc
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selsta
yes
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selsta
now you let this sync over night, make sure that you mac does not go to sleep
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liliana914[m]
its synching it it looks like
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selsta
e.g. keep it powered in
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liliana914[m]
awesome, thank a million times 💖💖💖
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selsta
it will sync to the default location now so there is no risk in losing the blockchain like previously
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selsta
when you start monero-gui make sure to start monerod first
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liliana914[m]
So, come now on it will synch much quicker in Monero wallet?
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liliana914[m]
from now on?
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liliana914[m]
….
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liliana914[m]
i mean
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selsta
you have to let it sync now once
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liliana914[m]
it says 6.5 minutes letf
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selsta
seems you already had a blockchain
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liliana914[m]
but you’re saying just leave it over night?
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selsta
it should not take over night
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ofrnxmr[m]
For 7mins
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ofrnxmr[m]
How far is it synced?
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selsta
it is probably the blockchain from your previous sync that was "lost"
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liliana914[m]
well, it looks like this is happening to my happy surprise. Thanks again!
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liliana914[m]
It says 5.8 minutes left
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liliana914[m]
i feel relieved
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liliana914[m]
💝💝💝
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selsta
make sure to restart your computer sometime in the next days so that the data in /var/private/folder gets deleted
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selsta
but that's not important now
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r4v3r23[m]
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r4v3r23[m]
plowsof: i think its time to make some noise about binance
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monerobull[m]
just synced 4 month old wallet in under 3 minutes
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ofrnxmr[m]
Support xmr has almost replaced minexmr
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ofrnxmr[m]
🥲
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merope
Looks a little more spread out (though not by much)
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hathzed[m]
Was hoping to see a bigger movement to p2pool honestly.
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spackle_xmr[m]
I'm guessing we're getting another set of minexmr transactions this morning. Not so many as before, or at least not as fast.
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Rucknium[m]
I see a lot of 1in/2out. More likely it is due to exchange rate volatility.
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monerobull[m]
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monerobull[m]
anything to add?
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Rucknium[m]
monerobull: Good idea! Exodus wallet is still not working I believe.
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monerobull[m]
right, added
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monerobull[m]
do we have r/monero mods in here?
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monerobull[m]
sgp: could you approve my post on r/monero and maybe even pin it?
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sgp[m]1
I'm not a mod. Ping dEBRUYNE ^
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sgp[m]1
ohhhh sorry for r/monerosupport
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sgp[m]1
my b
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monerobull[m]
nono
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monerobull[m]
im mod on monerosupport
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monerobull[m]
but this should probably still get pinned to r/monero
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sgp[m]1
yeah
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sgp[m]1
btw we set up a node status page on
nodes.monero.com - what do you think?
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monerobull[m]
fancy
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monerobull[m]
<monerobull[m]> "do we have r/monero mods in here..." <- gingeropolous: ?
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ct[m]
<sgp[m]1> "btw we set up a node status page..." <- There are some minor UI issues on vertical mobile:
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sgp[m]1
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ct[m]
haha, nice
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ct[m]
otherwise the side looks good
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RavFX[m]
Will there be a way to add more nodes sgp ?
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sgp[m]1
RavFX: yes I can add more nodes if I see them stay around for a while. I'm not going to add every node in existence
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monerobull[m]
ill host a node behind a proxy once i have fiber
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or...
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ofrnxmr[m]
Leave the list sma''
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ofrnxmr[m]
People should run their own nodes if possible
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ofrnxmr[m]
I expected to see only cake's nodes there.
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ofrnxmr[m]
I assume cake would have to put a disclaimer stating that the nodes arent in their control and could go rogue.
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ofrnxmr[m]
I'd argue for them not to recommend third party nodes..
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ofrnxmr[m]
For a trusted list of community nodes, this should be done on a repo where a cake isn't responsible/liable for the recommendations
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ofrnxmr[m]
Just my opinion
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sgp[m]1
> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> I expected to see only cake's nodes there.... (full message at
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…b6cf482dc1fa98f6a55c1d5f689d867a966)
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sgp[m]1
cake nodes are at status.cakewallet.com
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gingeropolous
monerobull[m], i can't find the post
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ya tricked me
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ofrnxmr[m]
I thought it was one website 🫣
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monerobull[m]
removed for question
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monerobull[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
sgp: for ui
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sgp[m]1
ok
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sgp[m]1
I just took the UI from upptime directly with 0 changes
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sgp[m]1
it should be configured that if they make an update, it'll be reflected there also
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ofrnxmr[m]
I'll see if there is an issue on their repo
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: "Wallet valtidation"
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ofrnxmr[m]
DO NEVER > NEVER
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monerobull[m]
yeah, people are getting sent links to websites that ask for your seed to somehow make your wallet good again
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monerobull[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: ill change it
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ofrnxmr[m]
If its going to ve pinned... should probably fix it
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ofrnxmr[m]
Exodus, Guarda, MyMonero (web & gui), FreeWallet (Known scam, DO NOT USE), Trezor hardware wallet and potentially more
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ofrnxmr[m]
I think you can add xmrwallet.com
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ofrnxmr[m]
getmonero.org GUI wallet, cakewallet, monero.com wallet, featherwallet, monerujo
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ofrnxmr[m]
Hyperlink these
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monerobull[m]
i have never heard of that but sure
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ofrnxmr[m]
Change to a different node, you can find them at monero.fail
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero.fail > nodes.monero.com
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monerobull[m]
pl
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monerobull[m]
ok
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org:
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
for more recent info on xmewallet.com
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ofrnxmr[m]
Xmrwallet.com**
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ofrnxmr[m]
Hopefully this helps the number of folks who got stuck on 17 because they didnt update or were connected to bad nodes
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monerobull[m]
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monerobull[m]
fixed?
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monerobull[m]
man xmrwallet looks nice, too bad its a scam
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ofrnxmr[m]
Oh, I THINK trezor is out.. but a rolling / staged releass
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not sure if its widely available
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ofrnxmr[m]
Looks good
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kinghat[m]
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sgp[m]1
kinghat[m]: do they mention monero
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kinghat[m]
<sgp[m]1> "do they mention monero" <- no. still worth a watch.
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org:
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
Another xmrwallet.com
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nikg83[m]
> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org:... (full message at
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…ec5e7f489167181474e56fe97d1bbace7d3)
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lol this is their tx
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monerobull[m]
> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org:... (full message at
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…5e57d954563c189b20455791a2042d213a0)
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spacekitty420[m4
isnt that some sort of webwallet or somethin?
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spacekitty420[m4
pissing me off so fucking much
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spacekitty420[m4
like legit
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yeah
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spacekitty420[m4
eryone being all like "monero too hard to use", "cli is only for tech savvy nerds" or some shits
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spacekitty420[m4
but the cli is just so fucking easy to use
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spacekitty420[m4
and the safest option all together
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monerobull[m]
core has the monero trademark, can they DMCA takedown the site? you arent allowed to use the monero name and scam people
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ofrnxmr[m]
the users should be able to, at least
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ofrnxmr[m]
Because they are getting robbed
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monerobull[m]
spacekitty420[m4: dont even have to use cli, gui is perfectly fine
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spacekitty420[m4
eh....
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spacekitty420[m4
if wanna troubleshoot sooner or later will have to open the command line anyway
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ofrnxmr[m]
I think most of these people are in china
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ofrnxmr[m]
Probably using web wallet over tor
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monerobull[m]
he talks about FBI, i assume they are US
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ofrnxmr[m]
The website from the screenshots is sus tho
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ghazo.com
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ofrnxmr[m]
* Gyazo.com
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ofrnxmr[m]
🤷♂️ I could be wrong, just trying to understand what in the Fk would convince someone to put 1000 xmr on a random webwallet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Other than wanting traces of having installed apps
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spacekitty420[m4
idk dude.... there hasnt been enough propaganda around the whole "not your keys, not your coins" and how to properly educate people how to backup their seed or somethin... idk... but at this point, it's just darwininsm or somethin i guess....
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ofrnxmr[m]
Like.. getmonero.org doesnt recommend it.. who does? What language is it being recommended in?
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monerobull[m]
i researched for 20 minutes how legit a stupid cardano webwallet was before i put 50$ into it
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ive never seen an English guide or post talking about webwallets
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ofrnxmr[m]
For xmr*
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spacekitty420[m4
yeah and webwallets are known to not be safe at all, its just common knowledge nowadays, fucking pissing me off
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ofrnxmr[m]
Thats why I say China or something...
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ofrnxmr[m]
They must not get the same info that is widely available
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spacekitty420[m4
its like "NO GRANDMA, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE NIGERIAN PRINCE SCAM STOP FORWARDING ME THOSE EMAILS FOR FUCK SAKE" but they dont give no fuck, webwallet all day long u know....
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ofrnxmr[m]
There are a lot of options, nobody recommends freewallet or xmrwallet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Im going to ask this user
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ofrnxmr[m]
Where they heard about freewallet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Xmrwallet*
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spacekitty420[m4
oh, for the freewallet that's more fucked up, google store pushing it in the front page or some shit
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spacekitty420[m4
even removed cake because the logo was too similar to freewalet
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spacekitty420[m4
fucking pieces of shit LMAO
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monerobull[m]
freewallet has a ton of different versions too
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monerobull[m]
do they only do their selective scams on the monero one?
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monerobull[m]
i mean, kinda, tiny bit bullish /s
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spacekitty420[m4
i dont think so, iirc even elon fucking musk tweeted about freewallet doing selective scam, and he aint on monero so guessing its other coins too
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ofrnxmr[m]
Xmrwallet too
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ofrnxmr[m]
If you search Google for xmrwallet its the second result for me
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ofrnxmr[m]
Search for "xmr wallet"
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spacekitty420[m4
yikes....
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spacekitty420[m4
fuck google
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ofrnxmr[m]
And is recommended above monerujon
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spacekitty420[m4
and pissing me off that users dont just intuitively just go to the official github to get the official core wallet, even when i didnt know shit about cryptocoins, always was installing the core wallets of whatever shitcoins was out there.....
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ofrnxmr[m]
Then again, Google wouldnt let me review monero.com the last time I tried
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spacekitty420[m4
damn....
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yup. Still cant leave a review sgp:
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nikg83[m]
> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org:... (full message at
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…7ff7e2ce6068a8823af6c023504685ae970)
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spacekitty420[m4
anyways, dude storing 1k xmr on a webwallet but doesnt have 30 bucks for an ssd? fuck these people, i just can with that type of shit no more tbh...
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nikg83[m]
spacekitty420[m4: Ppl are stupid
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spacekitty420[m4
stoopidily lazy and blinded by greed or some shit
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sgp[m]1
<ofrnxmr[m]> "Yup. Still cant leave a review..." <- I have no idea how to edit that, if editing is even possible on my end. Other people have left reviews
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sgp[m]1
are you using an enterprise google account?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Nope.
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sgp[m]1
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ofrnxmr[m]
I can review cake and other apps np
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ofrnxmr[m]
I dont think its on your end.
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ofrnxmr[m]
I do wonder if others are able to leave reviews on android or if Google is ~censoring monero.com (while promoting xmrwallet.com)
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k4lyp5o
hello there
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ofrnxmr[m]
Nice, steady rebound in tx volume Rucknium: