Bloatware inbound

#dontsell

The slimeballs will think we'll paper hand

But we'll moneron anyway. Bloated blocks or not

s/moneron/monerun/

Wonder what size hdd you will need in the future if it gets hammered with nfts

my pi with external usb hdd will struggle

Prune tx_extra

Castrate*

Dynamic tx_extra

<Bon 💗> Is this good that monero has nfts and how does it affect

yes having wotrhless shit is good

ofrnxmr[m]: I finally started to read MRL starting from Wed's meeting

I got about 15 minutes in and gave up

well done nioc, i will read the next 15 minutes

I didn't read for 15 minutes

I read till the first 15 minute timestamp

<Bon 💗> Ok i take that as no then

So wen tx_extra gonna be deprecated?

Mordinals noobs lol

But running @ nice POC that you can spam 200byte nfts

1.7-1.71kb tx are what their spamming (200bytes over the proposed lowest limit)

They're *

Obviously nfts because a typical 1/2 in 1.5kb

Is*

Bch tx exploded 👀 (was checking to see if monero tx volume is up)

Hi all, wanted to send a quick message here to share and get feedback. Have been involved with Monero for several years and even dabbled with running a node for a short while. One the side run a professional networking group. Since nfts have become popular past couple years, have wanted to offer members (and be able to market to potential new members) a onchain membership, but have held off because didn't want members (and non

members) to be able to essentially spy on each other. Is there a way to mint Monero Ordinals similar to how you can mint Bitcoin ordinals on ordinalsbot.com?

Mordinals.org

But its not "the same" as btc ordinals

And dont count on building an ecosystem around it unless you want to wait a couple years. The field is in contention for removal or limiting beyond usefulness.

You can sign messages etc with monero, and use those for authentication (wallet owner should hold the login key in the form of an encrypted message). Or something similar.

The message wouldnt be verified onchain

ofrnxmr[m]: Would you know if this site is working on building out an image upload and minting process page?

Its live

Those images are already on chain

Like without having to run a Monero node

Yea

ofrnxmr[m]: Where is that page?

You just run a little command like

`mint_ordinal 0.00001 picture.jpg caption.txt`

Need to use the modified cli wallet

<bridgerton[m]> "<Bon 💗> Is this good that monero..." <- No, having this garbage is an easy way to balloon blockchain size for no good reason. This is worse in Monero's case because users are encouraged to run a local node for privacy. A larger blockchain will make this less feasible for the average person.

Monero is supposed to be a *currency*. Not a 6 year old's scratch book.

<Bon 💗> Man nfts are on the Blockchain doesn't that affect monero privacy a little bit just asking

A little bit a lot

<Bon 💗> Noooooooo

<Bon 💗> Is their anyway to improve the privacy of monero

Of course

tx_extra < 🔥🐲🐉

<Bon 💗> I don't know what that means but ill figure it out

<Bon 💗> 😭

But thats just about Txextra.

There are plenty of improvements coming to monero in the coming months and years

<Bon 💗> I'm trying to learn

<Bon 💗> Yes I'm so exited and can't for improvement

bridgerton[m]: That just means `get a dragon to incinerate it`

<Bon 💗> Oh

Even over the last 2 days p2pool hard forked and improved the decoy selection as a result

<Bon 💗> So it's best to use i2p or P2P to improve the privacy of monero.

Monero's privacy is solid by default. However, this NFT garbage negatively impacts tx uniformity and thus privacy. It needs to be removed. Not to mention, the blockchain size implications and general public perception of NFTs.

<bridgerton[m]> "<Bon 💗> So it's best to use..." <- For sending transactions?

Onion and I2p nodes are better, yes

<Bon 💗> Thank you ❤️

<Bon 💗> I'm learning

The reason is that the node doesnt know what IP sent the transacting.

Using p2p, your IP sending data to the node can be connected to the tx arrival time

By p2p im referring to clearnet

<Bon 💗> So it's better to use i2p and onion instead of P2P gotcha

I2p or onion

Either or is fine

On android, invizible pro from fdroid app store to easily access tor and I2p

<Bon 💗> Yes sir anonymous sir

<Bon 💗> My next goal is to set up my own node and help out the network

Nice.

Setting up a node can be as easy or as difficult as you want to make it

seems the fad is over cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/9073…28563/1087215738294644756/image.png

Fake news

Mempool.spacd

* Mempool.space

I havent clicked in over 24hrs

I bet it still says > 100 block backlog and outgoing transactions under 2sat/vbyte

Purging* transactions

🔮

153 blocks backlog now

I didnt want to lose the bet

who pays <2sat/byte

2 ago, everyone

Months -_-

My keyboard is really deleting whole words now 😆

I haven't sent a btc tx in a long time but I never paid that little cause I actually want my tx included in a block

when there were spam attacks in the past people used the minimum 1 sat/byte

Ath

Bitcoin magazine sounds like its lying

nioc: That was ordinals

and even though I paid more I paid less in USD than that chart shows as avg

I guess all charts lie

Ones that use blockchain data directly dont

Ones created by hand picked data and fact checked, probably nonsense :)

(That chart you posted shows DEC - Feb, with DEC being "0")

That is false

when did ordinals start?

This was taken in July 2022

Block ~744875

But started long before that

May

Fees on bitcoin ate the highest they've been in at least a year.

And holding steady

just checked and yeah I would have to pay ~2x what I used to pay so about 50 cent

seems like monero.com explorer (by cake wallet) has a rounding issue on output verify screen

for example monero.com/payment/66b52dc7e6819ec0…650eea302c16f34ceb3f3993f9f328c750c shows 0.6028149399999999 XMR

sgp:

where the actual tx is monero.com/tx/66b52dc7e6819ec026d2b…131b3340e5a95d77af0edee10f37d99327f 0.602814940000 XMR

so too many decimals, and somehow floating point

Weird, thanks

New merge requests repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests aren't appearing on ccs.getmonero.org/ideas

Plowsof just needs to close the animated video one he opened

And the other one (p2p) needs to be banished to the shadow realm 🫣

the filename does not end in ".md"

plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: Just caught up on mentions of the closing videos ccs. My XMR address is at the bottom of the readme page of the repository where the scripts were developed (of which I am the only member).

dsmlegend: i have also apologised to the human who voiced the video (cadence / editing seems to have fooled me)

They left before you apologized. Cheater

ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required ❤️

LFG

Looks scheksie

Hi

Im wondering where I could get support on a faulty transaction on my end?

Managed to send monero to a adress very unknown on my end.... dont have a clue how it got pasted in there... :(

Hm.

The issue "where did you get the address" starts with "where were you trying to send the funds"

Follows with "what could have happened inbetween"

Yes, Im struggling with where these magic characters struck me on my way

The idea was to send from monero wallet to my other.... only have 2 wallets

Is possible but unlikely that you had your clipboard hijacked by a virus.

Its most likely that you copied the wrong address from somewhere

copied some shit along the way that seems to be a legit wallet since the transaction is complete

So you only copied addressed from your wallets?

yea, seems to be malware after all maybe...

If so ^ patiently check your wallets

annoying, should pay more attention :(

b4qc6xpyyx[m]: Are you on windows?

Still not likely

Any chance to create support ticket somewhere?

Yes, windows

Are you on windows

b4qc6xpyyx[m]: #monero-support:monero.social

Not a ticket, but thats the place to go for help

Big thanks :)

And regarding what happened... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…6131e0ecd037fca4bacb6977314b80c8ffc>)

perhaps user has sent funds to an integrated address, and is seeing the base address in transaction history, need to confirm

a new ccs idea was just posted, flatpak maintenance for 1 year + moving it to the core repo / getting it verified repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests

anarkiocrypto[m]: anarkiocrypto testing123, i want to donate / point p2pcrowd.fund to a service of yours

I would recommend to contact Zombie Master about XMRStarter.com. I don't know if I will be able to finish Kuno, while XMRStarter is ready to use.

as of today, yours looks more promising tho

idk why you're being so reserved about external support

we build stuff ourselfs and very well know that things rarely work out as planned

XMRStarter already works. Kuno is just pieces of PHP code and vaporware right now. My apartment rental ends March 31 and I really don't know if I will have the energy to finish Kuno before then. There are only around 6 work hours remaining.

You worry too much my friend. Post ya donation address somewhere

I don't understand what you mean by worrying.

If you want a self-hosted fundraiser that works, use Plowsof's script. If you want a third party host, use XMRStarter.com. I think it's also possible to run a BTCPayServer fundraiser with Monero.

Lol @ support ticket

“ An engineer will get back too you in 5-7 business days”

anarkiocrypto[m]: Means "shut up and take my money" 😄

If possible I will release the code, then someone could host their own instance (of Kuno Fundraisers or Bitejo marketplace). But as MoneroMarket.io and XMRStarter.com / Plowsof's wishlist are already live, this use case is already filled.

Excuse

Is it possible to test a view key to determine if it is the public or private key?

thing is, I don't want [alternative], I want to see you succeed in whatever you want to build. Yeet the donations into a deposit for a new apartment if it helps you, that's a perfectly fine use imho

* want [alternative product], I

And yes, I still cool with that use even if your visualized project never materializes

* yes, I'm still

hanshan[m]: view key as provided is private, usually. public view key (and spend key) is part of the Monero address

I don't expect to get a new apartment. Will just try to survive. That's why I wanted to complete things beforehand, but seeing MoneroMarket.io's success and the release of XMRStarter.com is a relief and means there is no pressure anymore.

hanshan: One way is to try to create a view-only wallet with the "view key" and the wallet's main address. It will probably fail with an error if it isn't the private view key.

Hi

Hi. Tax is theft.

Wrong. Also wrong chat

I didn't get the wrong chat, I'm looking for answers to my idea

Nohello.net

Include a short summary of your idea along with the hello

Ok

* Nohello.net/en/

Guest56: I was replying to the other person who replied to you first

(Perhaps their message did not get relayed)

I'm looking for a code to insert in an app to give all users the possibility to mine monero if anyone would like to help me can write me

Ooo like a botnet for phones?

Or like xmrig for android 🙄

We have the latter already

If youre idea is well thought out, open a ccs proposal

If it isnt #monero-offtopic:monero.social

If you have specific questions or want to be more direct in what you'd like help with, then #monero-community-dev:monero.social

ccs.getmonero.org

i'm not playing, i'm really looking for someone who can help me insert a string in my app to create a ming pool with monero

"app" as in "smartphone app" or "tablet app"?

I spoke seriously and clearly

Asked a few questions and gave a few directions

If anything is misunderstood, let it be known

The description I read sounds like

- Mining monero on all platforms is possible and easy (except ios)

- running a node on all platforms is possible and easy (except ios)

So this is either a botnet, or an ios miner, or it exists, OR more info needs to be provided to clarify what separated the proposed idea from existing solutions.

ofrnxmr[m] if you think you can help me and you want more information you can write me in private, I will be happy to answer your questions

Im not interested in anything you cant say here

If it cant be said here, youre in the wrong room

hey guys, we did an interview with Anon Shop -- an online service that lets you shop with $XMR on Amazon anonymously

Check it out

* twitter.com/lunarpunksquad/status/1637911749780205569?s=20

Let us know if you'd want to listen to a twitter space with them 👀

* Let us know if you'd want to listen to a twitter space with us and Anon Shop 👀

Who is us

And Dgoon = anonshop, right?

ofrnxmr[m]: LunarDAO

Do tell more

The site is probably the best place to go [lunardao](lunardao.net). We also have a one-pager that gives a rundown:

Who: lunardao... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…f30636e15e66c54948f00ba0f96015f2859>)

* to go for more info [lunardao](lunardao.net), * [lunardao](lunardao.net) (however it's not complete yet). We

Too much suspenseful reading

Can you shorten for me

Copy paste important parts is fine

LunarDAO is an organization advancing the lunarpunk movement by investing in privacy projects, anonymity tooling, research and education.

LunarDAO is a key player in the growing lunarpunk movement. Lunarpunk emerged as a response to the need for protection against surveillance by central authority and big tech.

The movement's ultimate goal is to create a network of organizations that operate parallel to the state using anonymity tools.

No we haven't launched yet

Working on finalizing partners for the site among some smart contract stuff. Tomorrow we have a short presentation at the Fair Data Society Conference: youtube.com/watch?v=5oMKsbK_iak

And your / the dao's thoughts on crypto?

ofrnxmr[m]: In what sense?

With the answer more focused around currency, privacy

Usage

We encourage the anonymization of assets. Therefore we lean towards privacy coins. Our end goal is having a fully anon DAO on an anonymized chain.

Part of the reason we interviewed Anon Shop is because it goes to show that paying for real things with privacy coins is possible

Privacy coin is a misnomer

* anonymized chain (in terms of structure).

ofrnxmr[m]: What do you suggest to use instead?

XMR

Double meaning.

One, name another privacy coin that you can use

Two, privacy coins are `coins` ie crypto _currency_ , everything else is something that doesnt do its job

Transparent coins can hardly be considered currencies. More accurate to refer to them as an open ledgers (in the literal sense) than they are a currencies, again in the literal sense

s/a /`/, s/,/`,/

"I'm thinking about potentially making Anon Shop a DAO. This would mean having federated operations on different continents. An entire network could be built on anonymous deliveries." you get a dao,, i get a dao, everyone gets a dao

Privacy has been mainstream for over 10 years.... Except for crypto"currencies" (open ledgers).

Crypto is stuck back in http era

thank you for sharing the project and interview @ lunardao.net/anon_shop.html (if yo uwant to know more about Anon shop it may also interest you)

Tldr.

Unless there is a counter arguement, you should have said "xmr"

You should interview ofrnxmr, I heard hes available in fall of 2023

<salami donators!> You're always available ofrn

Opensource

Im not always there when you call, but im always on time 🎶

i don't like dao's or any kind of 'wishy washy lunar eclipse magic the gathering change the world type things though

Gave you my

Baby be mine

Alll

( shit happens at work. Dont ask)

plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: 🫢

Who works

This room is the workplace 👨‍🌾

Answer me!!!!!!!!!

;)

<lunardao[m]> "Working on finalizing partners..." <- I know it's offtopic in this channel but gotta commend your persistence, gotta show up again in darkfi irc soon and see if testnet node runs :]

otherwise i'm back to driving my car at night :]