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techstartup[m]
Hey any WordPress devs with good backend knowledge to fix Monero woocommerce issues message me. Pay is in XMR
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ofrnxmr[m]
SerHack:
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SerHack
Thanks, I sent a message to techstartup[m]. Not sure about the "Monero woocommerce" issues
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ofrnxmr[m]
Tyty
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plowsof11
SerHack have the 2 milestones you are seeking someone to help you work on changed or remain the exact same as written in the ccs proposal?
ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/serhack-monero-integrations-part-3.html
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plowsof11
roll the 11 xmr into a new ccs (with added in maintenance / updated issues / more funds) and click my heels together to make a woocommerce/php appear from thin air to handle it all
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ofrnxmr[m]
We need shopify plugin
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ofrnxmr[m]
I dont know what works best, but some angry adopters bcuz we dont make it easy to integrate with existing solutions
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ofrnxmr[m]
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plowsof11
that twitter thread says they have btcpayserver set up already , and grampy suggests they "enable it"
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plowsof11
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ofrnxmr[m]
They have btcpayserver + shopify?
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plowsof11
btcpayserver also has shopify support
docs.btcpayserver.org/Shopify
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plowsof11
someone set btcpayserver up for them , they can easily add monero support 🤷
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plowsof11
bitcartcc is likebtcpayserver but the developer didnt call monero a shitcoin and actually wanted to integrate it
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ofrnxmr[m]
I understand the issue though.
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ofrnxmr[m]
We need a 1 click installer for "yes add monero"
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ofrnxmr[m]
like, if someone has btcpay setup, should be a script to add xmr support
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ofrnxmr[m]
Bitcart looks good, just not sure about the backend setup
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ofrnxmr[m]
Doesnt look "approachable"
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plowsof11
btcpayserver links to the guide by s*th
sethforprivacy.com/guides/accepting-monero-via-btcpay-server (im sure it would be condensed if it was simply 'so you have btcpay set up already and you want to accept monero..'
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ofrnxmr[m]
but, but. How to add to existing
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ofrnxmr[m]
yeah, like this goes thru and makes you download a wallet, manually create a new wallet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Export view key
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ofrnxmr[m]
This can all be automated with a download of monerorpc
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plowsof11
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ofrnxmr[m]
Like generating gift card wallet
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plowsof11
bitcartcc has attepmted easy on boarding with a "configurator" - ive not used it though :( demo @
admin.bitcartcc.com/configurator
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Rucknium[m]
If it's one-click, wouldn't that be generating the spend key on the (possibly insecure) server?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Same device that generated the btc wallet, no?
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plowsof11
ubt yeah, merchants with btcpayserver already setup - ideally we can say "add your view only wallet details to this menu in your btcpay admin thingy'
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Rucknium[m]
ofrnxmr: Yes, which is also questionable
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ofrnxmr[m]
Right ^, but btc is built without monero support
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ofrnxmr[m]
So it needs to be rebuilt without damaging any existing files
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ofrnxmr[m]
Which im "sure" is no different than upgrading
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ofrnxmr[m]
s/btc/btcpay/
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Rucknium[m]
MAGIC uses BTCPay to accept BTC and XMR. deverick set it up. I can look at the admin panel. I am not sure how much needs to be enabled in the back end for Monero support before you can click things in the admin panel
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ofrnxmr[m]
So id assume a script to "rebuild and restart btcpay"
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Rucknium[m]
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Rucknium[m]
When setting it up, I got to play with testnet fiat
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ofrnxmr[m]
Looks great
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ofrnxmr[m]
Even has fixedfloat integration
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chesterfield[m]
Bitcartcc is very similar to btcpay but from my understanding, it allows for creation of multiple non custodial Monero accounts
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chesterfield[m]
So you could essentially provide bitcartcc as a service for people who are tech challenged
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chesterfield[m]
Btcpay only allows for one xmr wallet to be used per server
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chesterfield[m]
What is actually needed is for people to write good tutorials and videos of the process of integrating the already existing tools to things like Shopify or existing woocommerce shops
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chesterfield[m]
I don’t even think it’s necessarily to make a script to ease the process
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ofrnxmr[m]
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plowsof11
i think the steps for an existing install = set an environment variable by `export BTCPAYGEN_CRYPTO2="xmr"` then restart. everything else is handled in the btcpay server admin panel (uploading of wallet files etc as shown here (if we ignore the users weird method to create a wallet)
btcpayserver/btcpayserver-doc #815 - i cant take fenix ammunition criticisms seriously when they / or someone they hired has th
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plowsof11
set up btcpayserver to begin with
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plowsof11
it appears to be the exact same effort for adding LTC to your btcpay instance
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chesterfield[m]
This is correct
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chesterfield[m]
Does fenix support any other cryptos on their btcpay checkout
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plowsof11
seems like BTC only? (they even provide super opsec instructions for their users)
fenixammo.com/blogs/news/start-usin…oin-btc-for-your-firearms-purchases
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plowsof11
opsec advice = send from binance, to your personal wallet, then pay from that
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chesterfield[m]
Find out the address of their btcpayserver instance and see if they’re selfhosting or uncle jimming
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ofrnxmr[m]
Thanks guys
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hardenedsteel[m]
<plowsof11> "seems like BTC only? (they..." <- sent them a message about why they should accept Monero
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hardenedsteel[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "^" <- oh i just missed out this tweet but i also included tutorial and our chat room's link
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lukeprofits[m]
<hardenedsteel[m]> "sent them a message about why..." <- I messaged them a bit ago too. This has been their stance:
twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/status/…75809?t=KyahQiW88gRHec3U4_1law&s=19
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lukeprofits[m]
That's a big part of why I am working on developing things (like the Monero Subscriptions Wallet) that will make Monero more accessable to merchants. I think what he said was a bit harsh, but there is a lot that we can do to make accepting Monero more user-friendly.
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hardenedsteel[m]
<lukeprofits[m]> "That's a big part of why I am..." <- subscriptions are great but the user need to use different wallet. If you ask me integrating to already exist wallet software is better idea, like feather wallet or monero gui wallet.
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hardenedsteel[m]
<lukeprofits[m]> "I messaged them a bit ago too..." <- yes that's what i meant above.
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xfedex[m]
From a developer perspective, using monero-wallet-rpc is much simpler than using bitcoind rpc. There are up-to-date RPC clients for C++ (wallet2.h), Node.js, Go, PHP, Python, and possibly others, and also you don't have to run a daemon just for a wallet.
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xfedex[m]
There already are plugins for WooCommerce, PrestaShop, WHMCS; and for shopify, you can do manual payments (using "custom payment method" option).
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xfedex[m]
Accepting XMR is not hard. The biggest issue is laziness.
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lukeprofits[m]
hardenedsteel[m]: I think that'd be cool, but I only know Python. Wanted to help how I could.
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dreamcity[m]
I wonder why they (Fenix Ammunitions) don't accept other cryptos like Bitcoin Cash, tho
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lukeprofits[m]
xfedex[m]: > <@xfedex:matrix.org> From a developer perspective, using monero-wallet-rpc is much simpler than using bitcoind rpc. There are up-to-date RPC clients for C++ (wallet2.h), Node.js, Go, PHP, Python, and possibly others, and also you don't have to run a daemon just for a wallet.
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lukeprofits[m]
> There already are plugins for WooCommerce, PrestaShop, WHMCS; and for shopify, you can do manual payments (using "custom payment method" option).
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lukeprofits[m]
> Accepting XMR is not hard. The biggest issue is laziness.
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lukeprofits[m]
It's a know fact though that people are lazy. If we care about adoption, we need to have convenient solutions for lazy people.
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lukeprofits[m]
dreamcity[m]: I know they said that they wanted it more as a backup in case they couldn't accept creditcards anymore. I think he probably was thinking 80/20 principle and figure Bitcoin was the most important, since it's the biggest.
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xfedex[m]
buttcoiners
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xfedex[m]
i hope they (and their customers) are having fun with the $10 bitcoin tx fee
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dreamcity[m]
Not gonna lie, I think that they attracted a lot of "unnecessary" attention with the way they worded it and it's kinda a shame because people are going to focus on the form and not the message
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ofrnxmr[m]
Super necessary attention IMO
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ofrnxmr[m]
Doesnt really matter how its said - this is what "the customer is always right" means
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Problem is you make something to easy it affect security.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Ledger case in point
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ofrnxmr[m]
they use shopify
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ofrnxmr[m]
They care not about custodiansor privacy, and 100% about profit for THEIR business
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero is just a MOE
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ofrnxmr[m]
Visa, for example
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ofrnxmr[m]
Is no better than ledger
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ofrnxmr[m]
Debit, same thing. Bank can steal/freeze your funds etc
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not just ledger. You see a lot of maxis recommend wallet of satoshi. Most gpu miners are using proprietary mining software
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ofrnxmr[m]
The list of "wtf's" is long, but understandable if you think from the perspective of someone who doesnt care about crypto, markets, whatever cults people are attached to. They sell guns. Or run a bodyshop
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Easier to not use passphrase can’t forget something you done have.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Whats it called SaaS? Is what we need
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ofrnxmr[m]
but plowsof (i think) said adding xmr is as easy as addint the env variable and restarting btcpay server + adding view key
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ofrnxmr[m]
Need to confirm. Because thats easy enough - just needs better or more simple documentation
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Documentation seems to be an issue with a lot of projects.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Sass is cloud service basically
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Application over interweb
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revuoxmr
Revuo Monero Issue 171: May 11 - 18, 2023.
revuo-xmr.com/issue-171.html
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lukeprofits[m]
<DanIsnotthemanBr> "Problem is you make something to..." <- True, but if people currently have 0% privacy, and we can make something easy to take them to 75% privacy with a few compromises, that's a win.
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lukeprofits[m]
(Even if they could have had 100% with some extra effort, but were too lazy).
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lukeprofits[m]
People who care care. People who don't don't. Very hard to convince people who don't care about their privacy why they should care.