Country of origin shouldn't matter much in a phone security model IMO for the everyday folk. Saudi Arabia and others are known to exploit 0 days on Americans which likely had a hand in the PGA merger. Exploits used by 5 Eyes can just as easily be used by other entities as seen with Vault 7. There are 0day merc companies like Cytrox that sell to whoever. Don't use a phone if you're truly concerned about nation state actors is the take

away. Your phone *will* get hacked if you're valuable enough to burn 0days and time on. Fortunately few if any folk here are.

If you want a phone factor where you can easily remove the cellular modem and have a hw kill switch for WiFi: Librem5

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pinephones also have hardware kill switches for radio

At the very least, we need more options than trezor/ledger

seedsigner pls. are there any updates on this plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: ?

Before pico is obsolete 

ceetee🇧🇪: we have tweets and a teaser about a future project (hardware wallet using a pico ero) , thats the best i can offer

on the twitter?

Bit odd, may be worthwhile for the Monero Regulatory Workgroup to reach out

dEBRUYNE: it feels like they are banning and unbanning without really knowing what they are doing

Yeah... they opted for we completely operate outside of regulation so they probably don't have the builtup legal knowledge to know what is actually lawful

"Binance's CCO (chief compliance officer) "bluntly admitted to another Binance compliance officer in December 2018, 'we are operating as a fking unlicensed securities exchange in the USA bro,'" according to the lawsuit. The CCO was also quoted as saying, "We do not want [Binance].com to be regulated ever.""

Yeah think there going crypto only trading, no fiat

Dunno how thats going to workout for them

<xmrscott[m]> "Yeah... they opted for we..." <- > <@xmrscott:monero.social> Yeah... they opted for we completely operate outside of regulation so they probably don't have the builtup legal knowledge to know what is actually lawful

> "Binance's CCO (chief compliance officer) "bluntly admitted to another Binance compliance officer in December 2018, 'we are operating as a fking unlicensed securities exchange in the USA bro,'" according to the lawsuit. The CCO was also quoted as saying, "We do not want [Binance].com to be regulated ever.""

> arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06…law-with-extensive-web-of-deception

gah, silly

I wonder if CoinCenter has any contacts at all