<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> geonic: So there are three currently defined milestones. You say at least include a deliverable. How are those milestones distinct?

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Though I do hear your other suggested path, merging with any future work CCS.

Unless I’m missing something, I don’t see any milestones in your proposal. How could there be milestones if it’s retroactive?

“To be perfectly clear, in no uncertain terms, this CCS does not provide funding for nor guarantee any continued development. It is solely a representation of gratitude and acknowledgement for work already performed, and organization provided.”

This is kinda problematic. Gratitude and acknowledgment are usually given once the work is done and/or functioning, not before

The ccs as written puts the cart before the horse in multiple ways… my suggestions: 1) think about the deliverables 2) estimate the time required to produce the desired result 3) redact your proposal and let people decide if they want what you’re offering or not

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> geonic: there are three milestones, and CCS authors are explicitly allowed to work on milestones prior to funding.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> There are no future milestones.

I see 3 reasons it’s not ready for production, but I’m not seeing the milestones

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> As for deliverables, there is a FOSS codebase which does function. I'll agree it isn't complete, yet I'd appreciate if you stop ignoring its existence, and clarify what your definition of deliverables is. I assume you mean develivered into the m-p/m source tree?

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> View the CCS raw changes

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I didn't include the metadata, which includes the milestones, in the description

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I apologize if that's been confusing here

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> ... Yes, I definitely see how that'd cause this to read as no milestones. My mistake. First time submitting a CCS 😅

one deliverable would be a paper outlining a clear path towards FCMPs under Seraphis

another would be functioning code.. but I don’t know if that’s possible until Seraphis is up and running, at least on stagenet (not an expert, open to being corrected)

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Current work has the exact API necessary on an academic level. Berman is working on integration.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> So there's not necessarily a paper needed as the Seraphis paper defines the exact requirements, and this meets them.

So why not wait until it’s integrated and you have something to show before asking for gifts to be brought to your feet

Not sure about you, but I’ve never seen a good end to a conversation that started with “I want you to thank me” lol

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> For the reasons outlined in the post, that I believe it establishes its viability already. A further CCS on integration has already started. I'm talking with sarang about remaining protocol concerns and will resolve the ones raised in the current work. For future work, which I do acknowledge, I'd rather an appropriately sized CCS rather than an extra large one tying old work with future work.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> With this separation, the community can decide against retroactive funding, and it won't also tank my proposal for future work.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I could wait till post mainnet deployment, sure but I don't want to request funding 1-2y after the fact :/

do you expect to bring your work on FCMPs to completion with the next CCS or do you foresee more than one proposal?

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I'd personally rather do proposals regarding a few months of work at a time, than monolithic ones.

Or let me phrase it this way… what will be the deliverables at the end of the next CCS?

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I haven't scoped out the exact hours remaining on the current issue board.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I'd assume a productionized implementation of the current code. That'd partner with Berman's integration work and get us something deployable, once audited.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Though it may not necessarily be complete. There's always a lot of optional nooks and crannies...

Ok.. and all of your work is dependent on whether the project decides to move to curve cycle?

I see that as step 5 under “What’s next”

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Technically not, though not doing so would remain one of the stupidest decisions Monero could make IMO

So your work is viable even if we don’t? Why is it a step in the process?

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> We have a tower cycle which would 4x proof size and reduce performance, yet would work.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Because we'd be idiots not to

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> And if we don't do so, we need to implement 3 new elliptic curves

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> TBC, a curve cycle isn't just for FCMPs. They enable logarithmic IVC, without a trusted setup, and have many reasons for them.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> But without them, which I truly believe will nuke Monero's scalability, FCMPs also suffer.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Er, sorry, 2x proof size, ~1.7x proof time.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> So next step is either curve cycle or tower cycle. The former is just the same next step.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> *sane next step

That’s all above my pay grade.. thanks for answering. Hopefully luigi makes a decision soon so you can move on.

cheers

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> community*

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Greetings. I sent a transaction to the GUI wallet, but it hasn't arrived for almost two days. There are more than 100 confirmations. How can I fix it? Help me please.

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> The address is entered correctly. Checked many times

Can you verify the transaction first? monero.stackexchange.com/revisions/6138/1

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> I can't

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Help me please.

biologe2, is your node fully synced?

remote or local?

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Yes

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Local

is it fully synced?

are you windows or linux?

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Yes

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Windows 10

ok not sure this will work on windows

try on your browser 127.0.0.1:18081/getinfo

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> tried reinstalling - didn't help

what's your height?

.network

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> I did not understand the question

oh le bux is ded

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> biologe2 settings>wallet>info what wallet mode? If simple , read this comment

try to copy paste this on your browser 127.0.0.1:18081/getinfo

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> monero-project/monero-gui #4127#issuecomment-1465055249

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> simple mode

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> To get to change wallet mode you probably have to close the open wallet first. Top left corner.. looks like [<-

yeah you're probably not fully synced

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> did

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> When entering the wallet, it says that "Synchronization". It ends in a few minutes. Coins do not appear\

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> I got out of the box. What to do next?

try a remote node like plowsof said

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Everything was fine before, with other wallets. And with this something went wrong, although I did not change any settings

but you reinstalled

just try it man

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Once wallet mode is advanced. Select open wallet from fille. Then follow instructions from fhe github comment. Let me know when that done

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Have you told us your wallet version biologe2? (Also in settings>info>wallet) can better move this to #monero-support:monero.social

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> 0.18.2.2-unknown (Qt 5.15.8)

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/RPaMxyZIARucahaKQYEEiZRt

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Do I need to wait until "Synchronization" ends and the problem is solved?

biologe2, yeah if it remains after sync come back

that's the most likely cause

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Biologe2 click remote node. Then (+) add remote node. Ip / port in the github comment

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> After adding the node, click on it so its highlighted grey and it will begin syncing

if he wants to run a remote node otherwise he should let his node sync?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> True kico, but depending on their system specs we may not be here to help when its finished :(

plowsof, lol fair point

also maybe he doesn't even have enough storage for the chain

biologe2, do you have enough diskspace to have a full copy of the blockchain localy?

make sure you want to run a full node first

otherwise just use a remote one :)

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> I have somewhere 50 gigabytes free

it's not enough sir

you need ... 140gbs (?)

for full node if pruned maybe 70GBs (?)

so yeah plowsof is right

biologe2, try a remote node

like address: node.community.rino.io port: 18081

and let it sync

report back later

<s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> my data.mdb is currently ~ 176gb

<s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> luckily 500gb ssd is quite cheap nowadays

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> image.png

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Did not work out

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> image.png

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Biologe2 what version wallet ? Settings>info>wallet

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> 0.18.2.2-unknown (Qt 5.15.8)

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> And you can see the text print out of rinos node if you look in your browser node.community.rino.io:18081/get_info ?

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> {

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "adjusted_time": 1693934168,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "alt_blocks_count": 0,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "block_size_limit": 600000,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "block_size_median": 300000,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "block_weight_limit": 600000,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "block_weight_median": 300000,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "bootstrap_daemon_address": "",

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "busy_syncing": false,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "credits": 0,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "cumulative_difficulty": 302844866839386274,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "cumulative_difficulty_top64": 0,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "database_size": 268435456000,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "difficulty": 252802919946,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "difficulty_top64": 0,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "free_space": 18446744073709551615,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "grey_peerlist_size": 0,

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> "height": 2967654,

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Did you select close daemon earlier? (Not leave it running?)

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Didn't understand what to do

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Turn your computer on and off again

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> Unfortunately I do not understand((

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Its ok, close the gui, computer off / on , then open the gui again for round 2

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Please go to #monero-support:monero.social

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> I rebooted. Nothing changed

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> image.png

<s​iren:kernal.eu> monerodevs.org should look like this lightning-landscape.net

<r​ucknium:monero.social> biologe2: It's working fine. Syncing can take hours. The progress bar in the lower left looks like it is moving. Watch "wallet blocks remaining"

<r​ucknium:monero.social> If you are restoring the wallet from seed, I hope you set the restore height/date correctly

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> photo_2023-09-05_20-56-16.jpg

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> syncing at the moment?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> At your current restore height, you will definitely find the recent transaction(s). But if you have a really old transactions, it might not find them.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Wallet blocks remaining is lower than the last image you posted, so 90% sure yes

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> For some reason, everything dropped

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/nJKamYKrIaeYEnNzogPhyoir

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> I understand correctly that this strip must reach the end? Until she reaches nothing to press?

<b​iologe2:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/oFihauZoqEZfbsNZmytXkWWH

<r​ucknium:monero.social> It has to sync. The progress bar must go full, all the way to the right

<c​hch3003:monero.social> I just want to say thank you y'all for your work :) Stay happy, stay fresh, stay healthy. We will win.

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