<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Blud i asked for his po box so i can send him an award for being the biggest yapper ever

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> If I ask someone for his monero wallet am I stealing his bank account?

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> If I ask a man for a dollar am I robbing him?

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Cmon mayme

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Cmon mayne

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> >I am 15, please dont offend me.

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> >Blud i asked for his po box so i can send him an award for being the biggest yapper ever

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I try to think my best that one of any age can join the Monero community and begin learning. It is a good thing, but repeatedly derailing discussions with teenage immaturity is not beneficial.

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> If you would like people to take you seriously, conduct yourself. Jokes are allowed, but serious discussion should come first.

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> This is not the place to be treated like a kid. Go elsewhere if you would to, but if you would like to learn and participate in the community, act like an adult. Even if you aren't

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> Okay I guess. although it was not derailing a discussion but rather derailing a fight/argument. But sure, i wouldnt just drop this into a general discussion.

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> And I dont get where it was repeated. 🤨

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> But yea, ofc I get your point. And understand it. So this will not happen again even in an argument🙂

<c​trej:matrix.org> Watched is several times to make sure I don't miss any detail and could not find any incorrect information.

<c​trej:matrix.org> However I do think the introduction of dynamic block size was somewhat confusing. The section "Block size is not static ... This is relevant because" makes it sound like an independent feature, but:

<c​trej:matrix.org> 1. tail emission eliminates fee market, thereby eliminating the artificial constraint to allow blocks to grow

<c​trej:matrix.org> 2. tail emission can be reduced to effectively put a prize on block growth and preventing abuse

<c​trej:matrix.org> Regarding inflation: Current rate is 0.86%, but it will decrease over time, effectively canceling out compount interest that is present in fiat inflation.

<c​trej:matrix.org> I understand that it may not be possible include this information in such a densely packed informational video. Also, if the script was public before, sorry that I didn't comment on this earlier.

<c​trej:matrix.org> Apart from this I really liked how it turned out. Art are animations are great, and help illustrate the script. Graphs are also annotated nicely.

Thanks CT, only been able to watch <30 seconds so far

The link to the animated explainer video awaiting feedback drive.proton.me/urls/ZY708BTBJG#fOozV2mWx44M

Has monerobull forgiven me for not knowing that there is a penalty (taken from the block reward) for increasing block sizes

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Hey Ct!

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Thank you very much for your feedback and I'm happy that you generally liked it. It was definitely a challenge to balance the technical aspects and still remain easily digestible to the masses. We also went way overboard in terms of the length, and some of the concepts were tricky to visualize but I think we did a okay job.

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> The script was made public here in the community channel prior to the start of the production. If the community is well receiving of the video I hope we can create more content for other monero related concepts, p2pool and so on - I will publish the storyboard and VO script here before hand, if you are ok with it I can also DM you to get your take on it if you missed out on the me<clipped message>

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> eting, it's highly appreciated with constructive feedback.

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Hey Ct!

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Thank you very much for your feedback and I'm happy that you generally liked it. It was definitely a challenge to balance the technical aspects and still remain easily digestible to the masses. We also went way overboard in terms of the length, and some of the concepts were tricky to visualize but I think we did an okay job.

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> The script was made public here in the community channel prior to the start of the production. If the community is well receiving of the video I hope we can create more content for other monero related concepts, p2pool and so on - I will publish the storyboard and VO script here before hand, if you are ok with it I can also DM you to get your take on it if you missed out on the me<clipped message>

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> eting, it's highly appreciated with constructive feedback.

<e​dge7:matrix.org> Hi guys,

<e​dge7:matrix.org> Having the need to easily switch from mining mode to "I'm using it now, don't mine" mode quickly, I've created a small and simple script that starts mining only when I'm not using the mouse or keyboard for more than 5 minutes (you can easily change this parameter). The idle time currently only works with XORG. I think it could be useful; it is for me.

<e​dge7:matrix.org> github.com/edge7/mine_when_idle

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Also big thanks to xenu27 for helping with the script and some creative visual concepts, would not been able to do it without him 🚀

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Also big thanks to x3nu for helping with the script and some creative visual concepts, would not been able to do it without him 🚀

<c​trej:matrix.org> vostoemisio: Yeah I do like it, and as I said its a tough job balancing complexity. When you do have new script, a ping either here or in DM would be appreciated so that I don't miss it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Ridiculous that we pay people like you 😮‍💨

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> pinned for mt

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> i mean for myself to put in mt **

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> anyway, hows everyones day so far? 😁

Is it a bot that is proposing CCS projects? I wonder how long till it nails one. Sort of like the monkey, the typewriter, Shakespeare, and infinite time.

Vik on Telegram:

Hey all, just wanted to inform the community here that Justin is leaving Cake Labs as of Sept 30th to move on to other projects.

Even though he was at Cake for only near 2 years, the impact he made on Cake was tremendous, and his contributions will be missed.

He will consult for the Cake team here and there as needed.

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> ceetee: Tail emission doesn't eliminate the fee market, it prevents the reliance on the fee market. Bitcoin is basically saying that only transaction fees should secure the network in the long run whereas with Monero a combination of the tail emission, dynamic block size, and transaction fees ensure that the base layer can be self sufficient. A fee market for Monero is still neces<clipped message>

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> sary in times of short term high usage.

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Your statement that "tail emission can be reduced to effectively put a prize on block growth and preventing abuse" is exactly the counter argument that we have against somebody saying that a spam attack could increase the block chain size significantly and which is why we included that in the video.

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> some of the confusion arises from the belief that dynamic blocksize means that blocks will just grow if there are more transactions, which isn't true. and how this is enforced is by incentivizing Miners to grow the blocksize correctly even if that means the mempool fills up

<c​trej:matrix.org> The fees primary purpose is not securing the network, but rather preventing spam. I don't think the video is incorrect or missing information, its just arranged weird. But maybe its me who is weird, lol

<c​trej:matrix.org> Tail emission exists > fee market not required for security > artificial block size not required to keep competition and fees high > dynamic block size can exist > fees prevent spam except those from miners themselfs > block penalty for block growth to compensate, which is only possible because of tail emission > block sized based on usage > scalable base layer

<c​trej:matrix.org> I guess my issue is that the third link ("tail emission is the reason why dynamic block size can exists") is only implied and explanation skips to the following points

<c​trej:matrix.org> Anyway, by the amount of words needed to explain you can see how minute this detail is

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> there was a balancing act between making the video short but also having enough information for that sort of implied reasoning to take over. The primary point I wanted to get across is that tail emission is only fully rewarded if Miners arent being bad actors. Which I think we were able to accomplish. However, making a video about tail emission and not mentioning dynamic block siz<clipped message>

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> e would in my opinion be incomplete and misleading, as the two features are intertwined.

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> i think my initial script was like 5 minutes long lol so yeah everything was trimmed down.

Create Educational Content in Spanish has moved to funding! ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/Lovera-…te-educational-content-Spanish.html

<r​ucknium:monero.social> IMHO, Monero still has a fee market (or potential to have a fee market). The difference between Monero's fee market and BTC's fee market is that Monero's supply curve of block space is elastic. BTC's block space supply curve is completely inelastic. 1MB regardless of user demand. If we wanted to explain that in a video, first you would confirm with your audience "do you understand<clipped message>

<r​ucknium:monero.social> basic microeconomics?" 😅

<n1oc> Create Educational Content in Spanish has moved to funding! ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/Lovera-…te-educational-content-Spanish.html

<s​gp:magicgrants.org> Yes, I am leaving Cake, and my last day is Friday

<s​gp:magicgrants.org> the design is excellent :)

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> 😢

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Wondering where you will move to :)

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Join me, sgp

sgp: where are you going? (if you don't mind me asking)

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> zcash hopefully