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<lilmsmillennium:matrix.org> cakepay is down, any other ways to get a debit card with monero atm?
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<vikrants:monero.social> We are not down. Its live and working.
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<vikrants:monero.social> Who all is coming to Chicago No 2 for the Monero Meetup hosted by Cake Wallet? Justin Berman and Luke Parker are the guest speakers! See you all there!
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<lilmsmillennium:matrix.org> oh, you were when i sent the msg. thanks
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<monerobull:matrix.org> is there a talk about serai
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<monerobull:matrix.org> will it be recorded
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<monerobull:matrix.org> ive seen literally every single interview/talk kayaba has give :,)
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<monerobull:matrix.org> will it be recorded?
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<vikrants:monero.social> We weren't going to record, but can
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invite elon musk to livestream it on X
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<monerobull:matrix.org> that would be cool :D
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Livestream?
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<4rkal:monero.social> Making the "Monero archive project", basicly just an extention of the gitea mirror
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<4rkal:monero.social> you can check it out here
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<4rkal:monero.social> starting to look pretty good!
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<4rkal:monero.social> is there any point in archiving all the monero releases? Just the latest should be enough don't you think? idk
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<4rkal:monero.social> yeah, think ill just keep the latest releases incase some ultra paranoid wants to download it via tor or smthng
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<siren:kernal.eu> Looks like someone is going through projects listed on Monerica and sending potential spam emails?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> lmao
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<monerobull:matrix.org> MAGIC got one
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<siren:kernal.eu> AI revolution stuff?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> yeah
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<busyboredom:monero.social> I got that email too
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<monerobull:matrix.org> they have an office in NY, vik should knock and tell them to fuck off /s
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<monerobull:matrix.org> they have an office in NYC, vik should knock and tell them to fuck off /s
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<siren:kernal.eu> I dorked the guy's name and he's some sort of a furry convention scammer?
dogpatch.press/2022/04/25/repeat-scammer-traceponies-scandal
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<siren:kernal.eu> Or he likes to go by this identity for some reason (poor taste)
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Lmao
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<siren:kernal.eu> That LinkedIn checks out though
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Is it spam or a company emailing?
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<siren:kernal.eu> I have no idea
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<siren:kernal.eu> But this is how they describe their team
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<siren:kernal.eu> Every employee has a fursona
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<monerobull:matrix.org> amazing
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<monerobull:matrix.org> we should reply that monero represents scalies and we dont associate with hot blooded creatures
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<siren:kernal.eu> Hell, the guy is a well documented con artist as well as a crypto scammer
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<123bob123:matrix.org> They have a mythical ceo like us!
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<siren:kernal.eu> Thank you furry fandom
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Are you mirroring `monero-project` or just monero/project/monero?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Monero-project/monero *
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Nvm, i see site and gui
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Hello
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Why hello there
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Learnt about moners like last week... Its so cool!
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> yeah. It works as described unlike some other coins
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<snjay:mozilla.org> If it becomes widely used.. wouldnt it like weaken the control of nations over it's people?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Depends if people allow nations/corps to custody their monero like how theyve tricked btc
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<snjay:mozilla.org> What are the attack vector on xmr as you see? Apart from govs controlling on and off ramps.
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Also if someone has used binance to buy some moneros how big of an OPSEC fail do you think it is?
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<snjay:mozilla.org> I agree but now someone 'knows' that I might have some moneros.. Isnt it bad opsec already? How to remedy?
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<rucknium:monero.social> Convince everyone else to get Monero.
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sure ideally you should buy without personal info. but that's not always practical. with monero you can say you lost it and there would be no proof otherwise. with other coins, if there are movements these can be leads to bother you with
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I have cash
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<snjay:mozilla.org> @boned I see your suggestion to establish plausible deniability... But how do I make sure that the glowies know that I have lost my moneros and they should not bug me in 12 years when XMR gets broader use?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Maybe
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> i also might have monero
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> i dont see a problem or a difference with having either
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Imagine is busses were called "anon transports"
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Because people deposit change
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Same way you would with cash
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<snjay:mozilla.org> I understand your points and logic.. How do I make myself immune to the 5dollar wrench attack by the glowies who might learn that I bought moneros in say 10 years from a CEQ?
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Paper cash above 10K is almost illegal here.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Its only illegal if you tell people
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> If a tree fall in the forest, and nobody around to hear it, no machines measuring it, does it make a sound?
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<snjay:mozilla.org> I wont tell people.. Binance might tell the government handymen.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Schrodingers tree
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Then them what? That once upon a time you withdrew a total amt of monero?
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Exactly...
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> They dont know if you spent it, lost it, gave it away, or gambled on 100x btc futures on some dex
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<snjay:mozilla.org> They can assume that i hodled no?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> No
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<snjay:mozilla.org> How do I do this without actually doing this?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> send the funds to an unrelated wallet after receiving them
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And label the sends as "bought a lot of drugs. Bad year"
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<snjay:mozilla.org> What is a label?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> (im joking, mayb)
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Just putting notes on the tx in your wallet
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Can the tx notes be publically viewed/recorded?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> no
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<snjay:mozilla.org> :(
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Example.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> i buy 10k worth of money
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Each week i send 1k to "my dealer" (myself, a different wallet)
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<polar9669:matrix.org> We need a dex casino, so I can spend it all
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> xmrpoker
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> r4v3r23: ?
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Yea.. A fake paper trail of me loosing all my neros would be awesome.
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Yah a p2p casino me playing poker
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Hey. This isnt advice on how to hide your money. All im saying.. is i buy a lot of drugs.
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<polar9669:matrix.org> You need to take care of yourself
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Poker is healthy
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<polar9669:matrix.org> That’s after accumulating, not for small buys every week 😅
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Hey thats a hǧood idea!
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boating accidents intensify
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<snjay:mozilla.org> But how do I bring it to link with my real identity in 10 years if need arises?
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Here are the seed, omg it’s missing a word
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Or two three lol
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> You just say "i didnt spend it"
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> or
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "i found my old seed"
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> A lot of people have "dead" wallets
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<snjay:mozilla.org> What is a dead wallet?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Plenty of stories of old miners from early btc and ltc days, missing tens of btc
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Yah save the wrong seed, happened with me
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> A lost / inaccessible one
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Don’t know if you can survive waterboarding
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Now you are just trying to scare me
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<trasherdk:monero.social> Just like black tar heroine and fentanyl 🤪
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Just play poker and have fun
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<snjay:mozilla.org> I lime this. Hey I found my old seeds but it is empty!
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Make sure to put it on Instagram 😂
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<snjay:mozilla.org> I dont use normiegram anymore! I am now decentralized!
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<snjay:mozilla.org> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> "i found my old seed"
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<snjay:mozilla.org> In reply to @ofrnxmr:monero.social
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<snjay:mozilla.org> "i found my old seed"
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<snjay:mozilla.org> I like this. Hey I found my old seeds but it is empty!
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<polar9669:matrix.org> You need to blend in 😂
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<polar9669:matrix.org> He is on normiegram he must be a retard
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<snjay:mozilla.org> But i likr your idea
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Just dont post your lambo pics 😂
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Good point, that said, i need to stop telling people to use linux/FOSS
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Linux is the gateway drug to monero
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Not even close
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Monero is so private even Linux users don’t talk about it 😂
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Lol
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<trasherdk:monero.social> You can still claim retardation by saying "BTW, I use Arch linux and docker", then you're golden.
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<snjay:mozilla.org> I wonder if this would be the case even after CBDCs are created.
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<polar9669:matrix.org> They will talk less about it online or near a Alexa, social credit scores will be affected
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Maybe we go to a cave and discuss 😂
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Can't wait for an I2P based IM
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Score -100 , you will be added as a high risk individual as soon as they sniff i2p traffic
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Black mirror is real
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Most of us are monero using, fresh milk drinking, red meat eating, exercising, books reading, god loving unvaccinated freesom loving terrorists... You might be right tho
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<snjay:mozilla.org> > <@polar9669:matrix.org> Black mirror is real
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<snjay:mozilla.org> In reply to @polar9669:matrix.org
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Black mirror is real
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Most of us are monero using, fresh milk drinking, red meat eating, exercising, books reading, god loving unvaccinated freedom loving terrorists... You might be right tho
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<monerochad> I2P yum!
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Intranets are coming, North Korea was a experiment
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Russia has already tested it
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Monero intranet when?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> I’ll use netscape browser
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<polar9669:matrix.org> When moneroland
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<123bob123:matrix.org> On monero island
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Simplex probably works with i2p servers
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Some small island should make it their official currency
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Australia
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Some small island country should make it their official currency
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Small, AU would even ban encryption 😂
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "i said island"
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> picky picky
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<snjay:mozilla.org> Good to know.. Never tried simplex ofrnxmr:
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<snjay:mozilla.org> If they ban encryption we will shitpost in birdspeak
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> It uses clearnet+onion servers. You can (should) enable the proxy setting in simplex, so the clearnet connections are over tor
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But you can also run servers _without_ the clearnet addy
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<123bob123:matrix.org> They haven’t ban encryption, there just morons
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Cyber.gov.au recommends signal and fde lol
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Tor would be banned, see China but on a global scale
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<123bob123:matrix.org> You criminals !!
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<polar9669:matrix.org> See, they are making tools
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<polar9669:matrix.org> We are doomed, let’s go back to MySpace
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<polar9669:matrix.org> I just sold everything for Dollar
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<snjay:mozilla.org> The discussion here is kinda giving off a bitcoin community in early 2012-13 vibe. Stay based and thanks for the recos on opsec earlier. Gtg to work.. C u in the evening. ✌🏻
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Ponzi has better chance
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Gonna use limewire to seed torrent for gui wallet
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Napster
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ok the new guy snjay has left, no more #monero-offtopic back to work everyone
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Are there any pleb friendly tools to run monero node ? On plebs os
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<trasherdk:monero.social> Well, in theory, Australia is an island 😬
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pale blue dot
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Cat spent all my monero on catnip
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Cat has been using moneromarket.io
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pre-built nodes like star9 node project has added Monero - but their intel based boxes start at $512
start9.com . moneronodo doesnt seem to exist yet
moneronodo.com. running a monero node is possible on an android phone by running a shell script
github.com/nahuhh/android-termux-monero-node . we also have the monero-gui to
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help noobs run a node
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Umbrel?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Vaguely remember btcpay and monero node updates for umbrel? Maybe it was something else
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<plowsof:matrix.org> s*th may have tweeted a PR 🤔
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<plowsof:matrix.org> that pr seth tweeted is closed. replaced by 690 which is "open"
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<plowsof:matrix.org> last comment is asking for deverick to pls respond
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<plowsof:matrix.org> so yes, we're on umbrel* 😄
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I feel like i should be accused of being your alt, because i posted the twitter link
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Ban
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ban orion
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Sorry folks. Quiet day today.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Need to make some business cards. Stupid farmer market accepts visa but not interested in crypto
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Normies, sigh
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<siren:kernal.eu> No cash?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Cash too
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But have some stupid hookup in a parking lot to use visa
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> We can definitely raise 10m usd and get a nicely-sized island. In terms of self-jurisdiction/declaring a country, that's really hard
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> hey..
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> jetnfirst
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Jet first*
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<plowsof:matrix.org> Crypto only sorry
yewtu.be/watch?v=YT8RXgFDbA4
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> for the money we spend on conferences, we could buy PP
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<siren:kernal.eu> For free we can invade Liberland
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> im down
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<polar9669:matrix.org> And have safe mode enabled by default ?
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Go further and have then easy tor setup
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<polar9669:matrix.org> We have gupax for mining but not basic node 😅
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<siren:kernal.eu> Kick out Croatian police as well
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Recruit zoomers
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Recruit demoralized zoomers
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<siren:kernal.eu> Probably not
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<siren:kernal.eu> Weaponized autism
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> abt 150k eur/yr?
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Never heard of liberland.
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> It's using blockchain for government...?
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<siren:kernal.eu> That place is at least a million
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> If were going back repeatedly. Might as well buy a venue
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> So more like 30k/yr
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<siren:kernal.eu> We can buy a Bulgarian shed :D
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Hire full time employees, coders to work there
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Hows the jet fund going?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Monero HqlQ
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<123bob123:matrix.org> We can have telsa chauffeur and jet
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Paying lawyers 1k for blank invoices
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Thats mortgage $
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<plowsof:matrix.org> latest addition to the jet fund
plowsof/scrape_ccs_fr 28c9ef5
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<trasherdk:monero.social> If it's not a tropical island, big enough for me to land my private jet, I'm out 🤬
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> How much left for the jet fund?
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> We can use the 300k USD that expired from the person who donated for monero.com, then use that for the jet
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Purgatory holds hundreds
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Use the jet to invade liberland then establish Neroland
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Monero as national currency and monerochan as "mascot"
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Just need to open pandoras box and see which projects we got scammed on
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Seedsigner came back after invited
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> So now we knock on the next door
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Yeah saw that appearance
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<123bob123:matrix.org> One time show?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> The good news they can appear on this weekend at plowsof “court” meeting
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> There are far more purgatory ccs than ive ever looked at.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The high profile ones get all of the scrutiny
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<123bob123:matrix.org> The good news they can appear wt this weekends at plowsof “court” meeting
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But haveno frontend is another
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 6 months > vaporware > made bank and left
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<plowsof:matrix.org> Monero just has to pump so the starving front end devs can eat again
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Now cake is holding the bag
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Frontend was a lie ans a scam from day -100
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Create nginx web front and then payout?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Haveno backend promises were snakeoil
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Frontend is nonexistent
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Funds are gone
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<plowsof:matrix.org> we do have some positive news from the molly sdk , yesterday a huge portion of one of their milestones was pushed here
plowsof/scrape_ccs_fr 28c9ef5
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<siren:kernal.eu> For 300k we can get some sort of a permanent venue/hackerspace
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<plowsof:matrix.org> clipboard
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> At least it wasnt p0rn
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Once is bad enough.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> (im joking lmao. He didnt accidently post porn before. Not that i know of)
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<plowsof:matrix.org> and three times is no mistake!
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Haveno ccs lolz.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> good news? Cake wallet is getting close to releasing a mainnet version of haveno
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<plowsof:matrix.org> monerobull tested it and reported a bug earlier
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But that has nothing to do with the ccs. Thats just a lot of hard work by woodser
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I'm slacking. I hope to test it before it hit the masses
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<plowsof:matrix.org> #haveno:haveno.network #haveno
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ouch
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Windows still bluescreens? Lolz
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Peasants
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<monerobull:matrix.org> My PC also did something funky
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> not you monerobull hahahaha. Dont shoot
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Like an hour later, it just stopped outputting display
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<monerobull:matrix.org> While still running
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Lolol. Im still laughing
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Windows is rude af
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<monerobull:matrix.org> It randomly turns my PC off every ~2 weeks
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Its not a back door, its a bill gate / pay wall
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Also I heard it thermal "panic" while idling earlier (spin up CPU fan real fast, usually only does that when I forget to turn up the fans while gaming)
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Someone/virus mining xmr on your pc? Lolol
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Wouldnt that be hilarious. If one of us got infected with xmrig
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Clears malware automatically?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Not good for monero gui
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Installs more (windows update)
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Cant clear on reboot. Monero botnet needs to be persistent
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<plowsof:matrix.org> Windows users are primed for using Monero - every time they turn their computer on they must sync their Microsoft update node and wallet
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<polar9669:matrix.org> Or we can ignore billions of windows users