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hold that thought

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Just what i was looking for

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero stash gone again, damn.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Whatsup with the Monero Dev icon

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Using a square icon for a circle

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/DKASAiOZmfTRVmzDfFCSschC

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> I held the thought what do i do next

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Good point

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> But jet would be cooler

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Put monero and monerochan on it

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> You could've got one in dc maybe

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> can we just buy the bitcoin caffee /s

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> do a ccs for the remaining funds

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "if you fund this ccs future monerokon ccs will be like, 500$"

<c​trej:matrix.org> building a node with a used mini PC can be super cheap, about 150€ all in. Currently working on a buyers and setup guide

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/ukasRPhKTuptIvnGGfTVNbJz

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> imagine if we had the funding of your average shitcoin

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> beldex can buy 20 castles

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lol, how can you say something is in prague if its 250km away from it

<t​zunoko:matrix.org> hello

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<t​zunoko:matrix.org> lmao

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> @sjy keep the same energy but do it after you have helped someone in #monero-support:monero.social and not here

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Okay.. joined that room

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Monero space on matrix here matrix.to/#/#monerospace:monero.social

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Localmonero.co

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> For kyc onramps, it depends on your region.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> alternative to buying xmr directly, is to buy kyc ltc first, then use a service like trocador.app to swap it into xmr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I like kraken

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Instant sepa deposits

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Direct euro/xmr pair

binance used to have that, and then, poof, gone - try not to rely on CeX's

im still recovering from not being able to use xmr in my local supermarkets with cakepay

need to use localmonero p2p nooooooo

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i dont rely on kraken

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its just convenient

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but thats my "investment" xmr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> my spending xmr comes from monerosupplies

bro making millions on the merch

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Baller

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> kek

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> more like, pays the hosting bills

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> web3isgoinggreat.com/single/bitmain-stops-paying-employees

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> that monero miner really worked out swimmingly

m​onerobull: when monero golden chain and ring in stock?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> MajesticBank: AllArk.io - monerobull form AllArk.io

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> wtf

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> where did their store go

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its a eth dex now or what

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its an eth dex now or what

I saw them working with trocador no ? Any service or wallet that's open to community cooperation

should be praised in my point of view

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they use trocador because apparently their swaps are all done manually

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> so now they use trocador for anything below 1000$

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> which makes a lot of sense

as more business cooperating in the community, makes community stronger

so we together are attacking market cap of wallets and services that doesn't care

about community

making monero better in the process

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> circular economy lets go

in the best faith

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> would anyone be interested in setup/managed hosting for websites/e-commerce stores?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i believe i could offer complete solutions for a small fee

need addition on monero site: fixedfloat, for sure service valuable to monero users

i use it also sometimes

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Kraken requires KYC. With MiCA passed by EUParl KYC can turn into KYS if XMR angers Yuroglowies. That said yea Kracken is a better CEQ.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> eh, worst case it gets delisted

<s​iren:kernal.eu> What is KYS?

Kraken have been granted their full European licence, so you can presume they have satisfied compliance requirements thus far.

thanks for sharing midipoet

<s​njay:mozilla.org> New MiCA rules require CEQs to delist AECs no? Sgp and others had written commentary about it to EU parl like last year...

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero Policy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> sjy: ^

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> matrix.to/#/!mehPttlWNbDtNeDbvu:mon…ocial&via=matrix.org&via=nitro.chat

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> rofl

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ignore last msg. Thx. Im just being a donkey

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Thanks! I have so much to discuss in the policy group!

<s​njay:mozilla.org> I did not know it existed.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the laws are pretty broad

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but banks can fulfill their KYC requirements when dealing with cash so why shouldnt kraken be able to do it with monero?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and banks can fulfill their KYC requirements when dealing with cash so why shouldnt kraken be able to do it with monero?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> [Privacy Advisory] Exodus Desktop Monero users, update to latest version for privacy fix reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/176e1z…sory_exodus_desktop_users_update_to

<h​bs:matrix.org> MiCA does not mandate to delist AEC, it increases the obligations of intermediary, so does TFR, but delistings are the choice of intermediaries

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> thats very naive thinking

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> just like "uhhhh monero is fungible and you cant see any history so it should comply with AML laws!"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no its being realistic

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no law says "privacy coins are banned now lol"

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i think privacy coins are banned somewhere in the world tbf

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> or crypto entirely (pls fact check)

<h​bs:matrix.org> Dubaï, Japan, Korea IIRC

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> binance exited Netherlands .. removed euro.. removed gbp...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> way easier to do for single countries than something like the EU

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> UK isnt EU and Kraken is still everywhere binance pulled out

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> kraken has removed xmr/gbp ...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> UK isnt EU

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> there is no law that says xmr/gbp is banned now lol

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> things just happen, can't be sure what will happen

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "The UK FCA recently clarified a position on monero. As one of the world's largest cryptocurrency exchanges, we are constantly working to balance offering one of the most comprehensive sets of assets available to crypto investors and traders, with all applicable regulatory compliance obligations," the spokesperson said in an emailed response on Monday.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> only because UK regulators clarified a broad law doesnt mean it will also be banned in the EU

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Ban all!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> sure, they could "clarify" their law as well but i doubt it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> in any case, wouldnt be a huge loss

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> at least once we have our own infrastructure in place

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> which we should seeing how mica only goes into effect for existing coins in like, EOY 2024

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Well if they make monero illegal, i guess that just makes me a criminal

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I didnt stop using cash when they started associating cash users with extremism

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I also didnt start smoking cigarettes when they were saying how good they were good for you

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> bsers are going to bs, and followers going to follow. they arent gods, theyre some people who let 90 year old senile weirdos be the faces of the country

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> (cont in offtopic)

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Neva!

<h​yolobrika:envs.net> Can any monero node be used as a seed node or am I thinking of another network? Or does the operator have to set a flag in the settings for that?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yes, i believe so..

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> no, its not

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> its you being optimistic

yolobrika: you can manually specify a seed node with the --seed-node flag

if you don't manually specify a seed node it will use one from the source code

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it hasnt been banned in nearly 10 years

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i dont see how a bank can accept cash but kraken (a bank) cant accept monero

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> MICA just says you need to comply with AML rules as a vasp.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> with kraken having all these licenses and being a literal bank, that shouldnt be a problem at all

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> guess that means itll never be banned then!

in order for exchanges to use banks they must follow what the banks say

what they say comes from their risk adverse interpretation of regulations

so kraken became their own bank

AIUI they are in the process of doing the same in the US

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Because, unlike cash, any crypto transfers should observe FATF's travel rule. This is not a problem when dealing eith cash, bank money or e-money. But it is a yuge problem when dealing with Anonymity Enhanced Cryptocurrencies.

<s​njay:mozilla.org> MiCA mandates to observe travel rule and SOF rules starting 2025 I think. This is de facto not possible with AECs.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it is

<s​njay:mozilla.org> ...Albert Jay Nock intensifies. <3

<h​bs:matrix.org> Monero's proofs and signatures are sufficient to prove that you have control of a given wallet

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can just do it how they do it with a lot of other stuff

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "please click here to confirm that you are not breaking FATAFs rules :D"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "please click here to confirm that you are not breaking FATAFs with this transfer rules :D"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "please click here to confirm that you are not breaking FATAFs rules with this transfer :D"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh no, we didnt break the rules, if there is rule-breaking going on on our platform its individuals and we will obviously terminate their account!

<s​njay:mozilla.org> True, but it is not possible to know SOF.. . that makes FATF big mad

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> SoF has nothing to do with the funds itself

<h​bs:matrix.org> SoF is separate from the Travel Rule

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you may need to present a bill stating you sold your car but you can do that with cash, monero or shiny rocks

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Correct. VASPs in EU should observe both TR and SOF starting 2025.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> well

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Correct. But you need PID of all parties involved if the net value is greater than 10K euros.

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Ref: DAC8

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> woodser: kayabanerve you know your deadline

lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 😋

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Top KEK

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also, not everything is in the EU

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i dont see these little dots respecting borders and neither will companies registered in funny little islands

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/OZaFsFNTbWtRsBiYrqBofevx

<s​njay:mozilla.org> G20 signed an accord to share PID of crypto using natural and legal persons just a few months ago in India

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Sure, not everything is in G20

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Those funny tiny islands may be the last stronghold of individual freedom.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> grafik.png

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/fWrzBsruOOwiZWNkCDwfyjcl

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ive got 1 fren in dubai, cool

<s​njay:mozilla.org> Is there an offtopic channel?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> man i love the map, great work lza_menace

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero Offtopic

<s​njay:mozilla.org> T. Hanks