<p​umanero:matrix.org> well that's a brand new sentence lol

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> I couldn't resist, It was way too much... reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/17ej4p…e_monero_nodes_are_safer_on_windows

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> someoneelse and spirobel need to join forces and create the most secure Windows Monero server with a Javascript back and front end

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> ermmm.... based?

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> based department?

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> based much?

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> make it typescript though or i will find you in real life and murder you with my hands

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> i should make a public monero node running on the original xp 1.0 release unpatched and livestream the display 24/7 to see how long it takes until something really bad happens to it

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> no firewall

<o​cean:matrix.thisisjoes.site> okay bill gates. still not running monerod in winblows. kthxbai

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> ok antisemite

<4​rkal:monero.social> What you are saying in that awfully long post is basically that a closed source program is more secure than an open source one. Which is completely incorrect. Is closed source monero more secure than open source monero?

<4​rkal:monero.social> Don't think so

<4​rkal:monero.social> Even if you think that windows is secure you will never know for sure

<4​rkal:monero.social> I feel stupid having to explain this to an **open source** community

<4​rkal:monero.social> I feel stupid having to explain this to an *open source* community

<4​rkal:monero.social> Quoting from your own article '''Security is the ability to trust the applications you use''' . Can you really trust Microsoft?

<4​rkal:monero.social> Quoting from your own article "Security is the ability to trust the applications you use" . Can you really trust Microsoft?

<4​rkal:monero.social> Can you really trust closed source software?

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> true

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> personally i prefer doing my monero transactions on apartheid linux

<4​rkal:monero.social> I use Hana Montana Linux

<4​rkal:monero.social> Prolly more secure than w*ndows

<4​rkal:monero.social> Lol

TempleOS is the most secure OS

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> if your software is closed source / proprietary and gives me more FPS on quake, im using it

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> well unless you use something like gentoo with no binary repos and set up a 20k usd build server cluster with 19 threadrippers to build chromium youre relying on whoevers building your shit to not fuck you

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Werent you advocating for increased monero node running on windows like 14 hrs ago

Many GUI wallet users run on Windows, and they run nodes

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> fingerprinting and opt in usage statistics ^

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> many even mine on p2pool with the gui

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> great addition

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^

<s​iren:kernal.eu> List it on monero.fail as well lmao

<4​rkal:monero.social> Still advocating for more windows usage. Just saying that it's less secure. Diversification is more important.

<4​rkal:monero.social> Tried Gentoo, not too bad compiling times on an old laptop. The kernel took like 5 hours. But pretty fast either way

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> .

<4​rkal:monero.social> Still if a bug exists on Windows it most probably won't exist on Linux and vice versa.

<4​rkal:monero.social> The fact that windows is inferior to Linux doesnt change the fact that we need diversification

<4​rkal:monero.social> Will look into nmaping all the public nodes to see if I can get the os

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ofrnxmrqhjqb2zwl2zafkyv7cd52k5yrnivlu37mo7a7qsd4a3tva5id.onion

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> siren did above

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> :18089

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He wants _all_ bootstrap nodes

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> right

<4​rkal:monero.social> cant nmap on tor

not only do GUI users use windows but CLI as well

<4​rkal:monero.social> ran on node.lzahq.tech:443 and got Running (JUST GUESSING): Linux 4.X|5.X|2.6.X|3.X (90%), Crestron 2-Series (86%), HP embedded (85%)

<4​rkal:monero.social> no wait

<4​rkal:monero.social> ```

<4​rkal:monero.social> ```

<4​rkal:monero.social> Aggressive OS guesses: Linux 4.15 - 5.8 (90%), Linux 5.0 (90%), Linux 5.0 - 5.4 (90%), Linux 5.3 - 5.4 (89%), Linux 2.6.32 (89%), Linux 5.0 - 5.5 (88%), Crestron XPanel control system (86%), OpenWrt 12.09-rc1 Attitude Adjustment (Linux 3.3 - 3.7) (86%), Linux 3.13 or 4.2 (86%), XBMCbuntu Frodo v12.2 (Linux 3.X) (86%)

<4​rkal:monero.social> So prolly linux

<4​rkal:monero.social> lol

<s​iren:kernal.eu> You can with proxychains

<4​rkal:monero.social> Trying that rn

<4​rkal:monero.social> torify doesnt seem to be working

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> peer lists are accessible (see py_levin), no need to limit yourselves ot public rpc nodes

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Why do these mutually exclusive probabilities add up to over 100%?

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Those are results of fingerprinting tests for a given OS.

<4​rkal:monero.social> 😥 security.stackexchange.com/question…08/nmap-through-proxy/120723#120723

<s​iren:kernal.eu> nmap.org/book/osdetect-fingerprint-…ml#osdetect-ex-clean-subject-fprint

<4​rkal:monero.social> Scanned some more, can't find a single windows one

<4​rkal:monero.social> Might be because no one wants to run a public node on windows.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Scan on a known windows machine running anode and see what OSes it detects.

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> try installing a fresh windows server vm and try scan it with nmap. I'm sure you'll see it coming /s

<r​ucknium:monero.social> You're assuming nmap classifies OSes correctly.

<4​rkal:monero.social> Yeah ofc

<r​ucknium:monero.social> rbrunner7 is probably running a node on Windows FWIW.

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> also sech1

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> might be good nmap their nodes

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> might be good testing nmap their nodes

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> might be good testing nmap on their nodes

99.9% of users running a node on Windows are behind NAT, so no point in scanning them

<4​rkal:monero.social> Yeah I don't think scanning all public nodes is a good sample to get an idea of what the whole network is running...

<s​iren:kernal.eu> For the most part it does. And often times the monero RPC ports aren't the only ports open on public nodes. That helps with fingerprinting too.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> You can't scan what's behind NAT obviously.

<4​rkal:monero.social> Started syncing from the gui on a windows machine, ran nmap ```Too many fingerprints match this host to give specific OS details```

<4​rkal:monero.social> On the same lan

<4​rkal:monero.social> Unless you open some ports, its impossible for nmap to know what os is running

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> youtube.com/watch?v=8yOQtjgdOz0

<l​m:matrix.baermail.fr> where can i find the original video of 2:02 ?

<l​m:matrix.baermail.fr> where can i find the original video at 2:02 ?

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> i don't know It was posted on reddit

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> never saw this video

<k​illercat103:matrix.org> Welp. I think I'm out of Monero stickers...

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> congratulation

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> congratulations

<k​illercat103:matrix.org> Thanks.

<k​illercat103:matrix.org> Now do I buy more? Xd

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> monerosupplies.com :)

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> this message was brought to you by monerobull, the ceo of monerosupplies

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> sounds like a boss

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> ***Monerobull, CEO of monerosupplies***

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it's a fact that i have the highest quality, cheapest stickers

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Sorry to disappoint. I am a Windows guy alright, but I nevertheless switched to Linux as my main OS about 2 years ago ... and not running a mainnet node at the moment, only a testnet one.

<c​hch3003:monero.social> Hello! Can someone explain the purpose of the recent RandomX update?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Even border security steals mbull stickers

<r​ucknium:monero.social> chch3003: Ask in #monero-pow:monero.social

<c​hch3003:monero.social> ok

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> monero.town/post/883264

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> I remember mentioning the version is wrong many moons ago

<a​js_:matrix.org> v1docq47: have you looked into using AI tools for translating/dubbing videos?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> kayabanerve your Russian is perfect, i had no idea youtube.com/watch?v=2GjK617zt9Q

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> we don't need AI for dubbing/translating Russian we sponsor humans for this 😬

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Da comrade

<p​umanero:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/WlanTSOJvPBkIZbSxGyrpECl

<p​umanero:matrix.org> We can self promote? in that case... this girl is THIRSTY for XMR devs.... If you are one of these fine ladies or gentlemen, let me ease some of that deadline pressure 🥺

<system> file xmrtran.jpg too big to download (2197235 > allowed size: 1000000)

<p​umanero:matrix.org> xmrtran.jpg

<p​umanero:matrix.org> Girl's gotta stay warm somehow...

<p​yromaniaco:matrix.org> bros.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> That a mans setup

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Thats*

*man's

is binding your feet in now?

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> the mining only started huh?

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> but nice setup bro nonetheless

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is that windows

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> yea, win 11 from the other screenshot

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 4rkal: see? Plenty of diversification in monero :P

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> yea, very diverse in beliefs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yur just jealous cuz windows gets better hashrates

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> (Or so ive heard)

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> I've heard the opposite, but yea beliefs don't justify realities ig

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> not sure if there is any test data on this

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Xmrig.con/benchmark

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Xmrig.com/benchmark

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Top scores for (probably any cpu ive checked) are all on windows

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> you'd have to adjust to the portion of windows miners as well

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> I thought Linux would grant more direct access to the RAM, but point taken not to trust the appearance

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I absolutely did not imply that windows held the majority hashrate

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I said windows gets better hashrates

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And there are OS like mmpos, which try to get better hashrates but it seems windows still has an advantage

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> mining OSs do seem like an interesting option, haven't heard of mmpos before

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero Mining a few of the guys there use it

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ive never used it, i dont see why i would

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Unlike other coins miners, xmrig is foss.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Which is another joke. How decentralized is your shitcoin, if the only mining software is proprietary

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> definitely, but most of the "decentralization" of these projects is just a mere paper curtain if you get what I mean.

<a​buakhleq> That's a dude wtf

<a​buakhleq> Bro got a better mustache then me tf

<a​buakhleq> I'd still hit

<a​buakhleq> Game is game

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Game is most certainly not game

<a​buakhleq> Bread is bread no matter the baker 🤤

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dont assume

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not sure we have a room for that nsfw stuff

<B​obbedBort {𝕭𝕽𝕲}> he is 15 either way, even if there was, it shouldn't be for him

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Well this room is a workgroup. Comments about sexual orientation, race, etc. are, lets say "unwelcome" here

<a​buakhleq> Bobbedbort is a lolicon

<a​buakhleq> Ur unwelcome

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And im not sure theyd fly in offtopic either YMMV

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> lets not bring the discord meta over here

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> gay

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> We dont discriminate against age either, plowsof!

<a​buakhleq> Yeah lil nigga

<a​buakhleq> Yeah lil bri

<a​buakhleq> Yeah lil bro

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Raver trying to summon a mod 🤣

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> 🙃

<a​buakhleq> Where's the naked black men porn? Is there any place where i can buy that with xmr?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: can you answer that

<a​buakhleq> I love big black men

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Whole bridge gonna get kicked 🥴

<a​buakhleq> Me when i say big oily black men with fat butts and their willies hanging out: 😍

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> and nobody bats an eye

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> zero / slow moderation on discord to begin with

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> moderation is gay

<a​buakhleq> One of the discord mods got doxxed by an ex-member btw lol

<m​ichael:monero.social> You are not the only one working on this. If you want shipped a set of USB media free of charge, then write about your current work progress to hardware⊙go or #monero-hardware.

<a​buakhleq> Shit's crazy on this side of the bridge

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> HUH?

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> It's never that serious lol

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> again, this is discord meta stuff

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> if your energy in your pseudo-mind is not conducive to what I'm saying or what I'm feeling, then there's incompatibility.

<m​ichael:monero.social> The devices that some of us have found to be best have dual interfaces of type-A and type-C. The transceiver chips are real Taiwan, usually SMI, Sandisk, or Micron. The standard is USB 3.0.

<m​ichael:monero.social> But the speed is not good enough yet to use as someoneelse495495 needs, so we are working on that as well as changing from digital to silkscreen printing.

<k​illercat103:matrix.org> /shrug It's where I got my first ones

<k​illercat103:matrix.org> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

<k​illercat103:matrix.org> Bruh

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nah, use Monero Community Dev

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> msvb is a scammer

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero Community Dev

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lol

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> be careful with those email addresses

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> monero-project/meta #879

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> When someone is on ignore do you get phantom pings?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> is msvb wants to collab, he should be posting a link to a repo

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not an official sounding/looking email address for his backroom bullshit

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If* msvb

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> monero-project/meta #879#issuecomment-1689657318

<a​buakhleq> We should deprecate geonic from the community

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> wtf is geonic ?

<a​buakhleq> A scammer

<a​buakhleq> Scammed the community out of 25k for a 5 second scene in a movie that's probably gonna flop

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Which 5 seconds?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Could have sworn monero isnt even in the script. Maybe the 5 seconds in the scrolling credits?

<a​buakhleq> ❤️

<a​buakhleq> Lol

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/o0sura/an_open_letter_to_the_core_team

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> This one deserved an oscar

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<a​buakhleq> *15 shekels have been added to your account*

what is a shekel?

who am I and how did I get here?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i paid 15 shekels for you. Youre mine, is who you are. And i am plowsof, in case youre wondering

0_o

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 👀

Ok retard.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> hey, at least i know what a shekel is

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Genius

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> You have been sent to horny jail, guilty of impersonating a-a-a plowsof.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If plowsof doesnt identify as a person, is it stilk impersonating?

is that plowsof entity with us in the room right now?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yes

you need to talk to us so we can better assist you, sweetheart.

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> Shower-thoughts are scared of you man.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Say hi to the nice gentleman, plowsof

bag of weirdos.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> need to check what alt im signed in as, test 123

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> hello

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> W-w what did I do?

hi nioc.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Hi ofrn

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> omg, omg he forgot to switch to his alt

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Everyone knows me, ofrn, and plowsof are one

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nah, i just talk to myself sometimes 🍿

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> We're basically jesus and the trinity

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> (Im the trinity)

some twisted head with a slew of different personalities going wild.

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> (I'm jesus)

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> I didn't know you had "Schizophrenia".

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i don't

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> Ik :D, well. gn.

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> He just switched the controller to me is all

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> So.. how about that adoption?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Anyone an x5?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Got* an

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 212kh for 3k

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> How much space does it take to get 212kh? Abt 10 standard 5900 rigs, yeah?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> There sold out weirdly too

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ofc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> (probably) Binance (or some other assholes) bought em all

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> efficiency isnt just in power, but in space

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not so easy to build a warehouse of typical rigs vs racking.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> not sure how servers (epyc etc) compare for power vs size vs hr, but seems the form factor of the x5 is the point, not the power efficiencies

ok boomer.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Which, at least, show that they werent able to get more hash/watt than us

yeah.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Im 15

ok bruv.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> U gonna add something?

cruisin' for a bruisin'.

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> 😦

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yapping like a chihuahua

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> im ofrn, lolz. Calm yourself down mr begging for forgiveness

lol begging for forgiveness.

chihuahua, smh.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Left on unread for months :(

poor him!

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> <d​ukenukem> some twisted head with a slew of different personalities going wild.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yes, poor him.

self pity is nice.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Im not you tho.... huh? Alright, thats enough rottenofftopic for me