<t​rasherdk:monero.social> smoothparrot: Okay, I have to admit, searching for the solution, was not that easy, going the getmonero route. I did end up at stackexchange, at the solution plowsof linked to.

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> ofrnxmr: I have tried and failed, for a few years, to get `monero-javascript`, now `monero-ts`, to work in sveltekit. This is a problem with emscripten/wasm. A solution would be greatly appreciated 🙏

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> searches for what sveltekit is

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I don't bring solutions, only problems sir.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Jk haha

<d​amik-pool:matrix.org> Hello

<d​amik-pool:matrix.org> I have problem with monero RPC and deamon

<d​amik-pool:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/BVOrlsKLUWZpXYVOkrsuQila

<d​amik-pool:matrix.org> Any help?

<i​ntr:envs.net> judging by the error message, check if your node is running and you've entered the node address correctly

<i​ntr:envs.net> in the case of a random public node, try picking another one

<d​amik-pool:matrix.org> Is working good, I'm runned on local

<d​amik-pool:matrix.org> But I try connect to this not work

<d​amik-pool:matrix.org> interloper:

What's your monerod command line and monero-wallet-rpc command line? The error is that it can't connect, so you messed something up

<d​amik-pool:matrix.org> I fixed this

<w​oodser:monero.social> wondering why sveltekit doesn't work with wasm, or if anything can be changed to improve support

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> woodser: I tested a few rust wasm demos, that worked. IIRC it's something with emscripten flags. Also, I think, it has to be dynamically loaded in the Svelte onMount hook, or something like that.

<w​oodser:monero.social> the emscripten flags can be adjusted [here](github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-…efdb9e3a70c90ff/CMakeLists.txt#L280) if you know any to try. also the project needs updated to the latest version of emscripten in case that could help

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> Well, I did try building, a long while back, but can't seem to build static libraries on Slackware.

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Hey guys,

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Here's the script for our and x3nu 's upcoming video about Nodes. Eager to hear what you all think.

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> drive.proton.me/urls/9FFS86WJSC#DbKrMSWCo4mY

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Thanks!

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> //Vosto

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/ZTvIQPpecsLQJEbTrgisbCgK

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Word file with macros? Hmmm. Maybe make a PDF out of that?

<r​brunner7:monero.social> (Also .docx files can contain dangerous stuff, although that's not expected.)

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> I'll fix that now rbrunner7 , sorry

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/FLYhWmyOreBkqIFluueccKRm

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Hey guys,

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Here's the script for our and x3nu 's upcoming video about Nodes. Eager to hear what you all think.

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> drive.proton.me/urls/928BTRZDCW#NQdCxfvLqpXT

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Thanks!

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> //Vosto

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Updated the proton link to the PDF file too

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Small note about the script: It's currently running closer to 3 minutes instead of the expected 2. To help with this, we'll be adding some fact pop up texts throughout the video.

<c​trej:matrix.org> At first glance there seems to be a bit of fluff (more words then needed to carry the information) that could be cut to get the time down. I'd prefer that over popup text

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i like the parts of the script that specifically relate to Monero

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> which could be.. 1 paragraph or 2

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> "the user will have stronger privacy because" could be used to convince people to run their own node more, if some known attacks could be mentioned (high fee) ~ or yewtu.be/watch?v=n6Bxp0k7Uqg

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i can find several animated videos on YT explaining blockchain / nodes

<c​trej:matrix.org> I'd also like to mention the minimum recommended spec (SSD and 4GB ram)

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> this is indeed one of the pop ups, in addition to other monero specific things, like what ports should be open

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> having something only expressed for monero is not the best way of making an introductory series for noobies. the idea of a "core concept" is that we are making educational content not specifically for the already active user, but for somebody who doesn't really understand the purpose of nodes. this is established by breaking down what a node specifically does, which later leads to<clipped message>

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> the monero specific things towards the end

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> similarly, in the dynamic blocksize video time was spent first talking about bitcoin...there is already content about how Bitcoin works but it was necessary to contrast to Monero's system. We need to have something that covers the basis while also providing a summary of the monero specifics

<c​trej:matrix.org> Monero explainer videos paid for with the Monero CCS system should be focus on Monero

<c​trej:matrix.org> sorry if that is controversial

<c​trej:matrix.org> I'll give more specific feedback later

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> yeah or explaining that a public remote node could see what blocks you are scanning can relate to timing attacks or that they can see your ip address are things that are issues with connecting remotely, but then we run into the issue of "well if you are running your node on the clearnet, you aren't actually being private". and this further degenerates into a race for being what i<clipped message>

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> s the most private which isn't realistic. insteaad we plan to visually show people connecting to a remote node as being exposed vs the safety of running a full node.

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> this "simplifies" things but otherwise we'd need more time and the average noobie wouldn't even understand what is being talked about

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> yewtu.be/watch?v=Jc0NwgqCtik generic video about mining nodes/full/pruned - and even contains a "light nodes" one (which is possible for Monero but not implemented yet) - lightning/validator/master nodes do not apply though

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> there is plenty more for noobies to learn about nodes

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> 'just another node video' or 'this is a video, about Monero, and why you should run a node'

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> I don't see how it isn't the second

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> containing background information isn't a bad thing and the monero specific stuff is layered on

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> totally open to rewrites for what it's worth but having a broad overview of nodes with monero specifics is basically the goal that I had in mind and I think would benefit the most people

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> if time is an issue i would reduce the overview as much as possible and focus on the specifics

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> thats fair. I would say that paragraphs one and two should mostly remain intact as a succinct summary though. paragraph three could be chopped and more emphasis on dangers of remote nodes could be added. just spitballing but I think that could help

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> or i should say, the potential dangers of connecting to a remote node

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It isnt so simple

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> In certain cases, its 100% safer for a _user_ to use a trusted remote node, than to run a node and use their own

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> A merchant should, imo, always verify their _own_ transactions

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> the same isnt necessary for users

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> monero.fail lists the general location of almost everybody with a public ip.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Most regular people can get by with a trusted lws instance, nevermind running a node, spending money on storage, power, and maintaining uptime etc.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> But a merchant who needs to ensure that they arent being ripped off 1/100 times, needs to run their own node to do so. Most users arent doing 100+tx/day, and dont _need_ to run nodes

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And for "race no most private being unrealistic"?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> anon inbound, tzproxy, --proxy, no incoming, onion rpc, no ports open. You _can_ run a node in "paranoid" mode.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> and you can do the opposite and --public-node and offer your rpc for use by strangers

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> now, what i was saying before..:

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> In the context of adoption,. nodes and randomx can be interesting. Because the system is "fair" (cpu/randomx mining), youre not just paying to adopting _someone elses_ system, and verifying and storing tx that you can never hope to make money off of, merchants can offset costs of network participation and secure their own finances, by running a node, and is possible due to randomx

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> lol of course it isn't so simple. there is a lot of nuance to this discussion, which is what I wanted to avoid. Of course you can run a node without any ports open, or get by just using a wallet and remote nodes. I'm not saying otherwise, but this gets into unnecesary territory that isn't the target audience and will just confuse things.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Who is target

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> the biggest counterargument being proposed right now is that you can find other videos about running a node,which is true, but those videos dont' contain monero specific information. I think having a blend of technical information as well as beginner information is exactly the type of person who would benefit from an animated video.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> who is target

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> the target is the type of person who asks "how can I get more into Monero". surface understanding of how Monero works and is different than other cryptocurrencies.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> "more" into monero?

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> which is like 95% of the userbase

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not "into monero, period"?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> So its a video for ppl who already run nodesc gotcha

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> "how can I help out", "how can I participate".

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> by buying xmr

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Using xmr

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Mining xmr

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Running a node

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And any combination of the above

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> yeah, and running a node.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> So this is a video for "connunity members" to "join the club"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its not about real world usage

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> i don't understand what you are saying

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<m​eow_the_hash_cat:matrix.org> the thing is, as long as it is impossible to earn anything by running a node the willingness to maintain a node and keep it running is not really that high....

<d​amik-pool:matrix.org> 😄

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> Ruin Bars Budapest

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> Come and find it 😉

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Just repeating the answers you gave to my questions.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I asked who is target

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> you said ppl who want to "help" and "participate" and get "more into monero"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Right

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> But for merchants its not

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Xenu jist said this is for volunteers

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> We have the largest network of full nodes, do we not?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 150x more per dollar than btc

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> active community members don't need to refer to an animated video to learn more about monero. they can benefit from presentations at monerokon or discussion in the MRL but an _animated video_ is for noobs.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> why would a noob need to run a node

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> because they want to help more haha. now we are going in circles

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> businesses need to run nodes and adopt xmr

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> i'll be back later I gotta get back to work :(

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Kk

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Take care

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> God hates turkey

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> I live next to a turkish mosque so there's a small turkish population here

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Some turk hung up a big ass flag right outside his house yesterday

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> On that night the wind took down the flag

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> What more proof is needed

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Sorry

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Offtopic

<a​lpharabius:matrix.org> Ik

<4​rkal:monero.social> One could argue that having noobs run nodes could actually harm the network...

<4​rkal:monero.social> *Complete noobs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Who is arguing that?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> im saying why are we paying for something we dont need

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Literally the most robust node network on the planet (dont quote me), ans were concerned about getting volunteers to run nodes, and not having people _use_ them?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And by use them, i mean, havinf _users_ run the network, people who _need_ them

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not just hobbyists

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> 4rkal explain please

we have more modes because it's easy to run than a btc node and almost nobody using btc uses their own nodes

is this what we want

run a network for yourself, not the network

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> This is the way

bonus, friends think imma hacker lolol

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> You are, your on irc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nioc - almost nobody _uses_ btc (period)

monello, the one true coin

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> "full" nodes and miners are basically nonexistent with the majority of users of btc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Whereas with monero, we run nodes because we want the network to work so we can use it (by we, i mean me and my alts)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And bandwagoners dont help anymore. If we dont onboard... bigger people (our employers), were just preaching to the choir some morr

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> We do the ssme nonsense with funding, always going to OUR OWN peopke for moneo (rino, majestic, cake).

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> its called outreach

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I dont need my neighbirs running nodes, i need my corner store to accept monero, run a node, and mine.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> everyone else will fomo

next video, how to get your corner store to accept romerito

<h​undehausen:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/DGGIWtoIIVDGIjDTkRkcmftC