<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> The Oscars are on...

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Where's the scammer?

if anyone is pending payment plz ping me

<c​hch3003:monero.social> Can we avoid selecting 2 outputs txs when making a tx?

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Arctic Mine thinks code that can take advantage GPU (and multi thread CPU) would be a big improvement for transaction verification. They suspect that was the bottleneck that made nodes unresponsive. Relevant part from 2:58 to 3:06 youtube.com/live/UeUGiSreegs?feature=shared&t=10677

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Pong

f​iatdemise: there are a lot of optimizations possible before we need to take advantage of GPU

any matrix mod online for this bitcoin spammer in #monero ?

plowsof ^

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> yes

ty

plowsof they are back

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> whackamole

again

DataHoarder: can we set a limit of how many messages someone can send from the bridge in a short time?

hmm

someone in monero pasting 20 line spam messages

yes, but they will just get queued

lemme check config, it's very generic

at some point making something specific could be worth it

there is MessageDelay=500 MessageQueue=30 MessageLength=400

queue is overall number of messages to send, anything above gets dropped

delay, well, delay

this is in IRC counterpart

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> gimme admin pretty please

yep those are all the tunables I have that could affect messages posted onto IRC

i feel like the bridge will be disconnected with this person keep sending 20+ line messages at once, even with queue

yeah it happened a few times when p2pool bridge + monero one talked at once

libera staff said my limits were fine but I can bring the queue lower

it's usually fine but not when someone keeps making accounts to spam

queue=5 delay=1000 aka max 5 messages every 5 seconds

that's why i meant a per account limit but seems that's not integrated currently

continously

but if 5 are sent at once they will get out fine

yeah nope, but they could create many and post that at once

if it's the same message it can be listed as ignored message

guess we just need more mods

I'll drop the queue to 10 for now as that seems safe enough to still have quick conversations ongoing

delay to 800

or even lower, then raise after they get tired

<r​ucknium:monero.social> D​ataHoarder: Is that limit per user? Or for the whole bridge?

whole bridge sadly

a few times already got DC'd for flooding irc.gammaspectra.live/77b5e262cf0e1549/image.png but tends to coincide with payouts on p2pool + bridge running

<r​ucknium:monero.social> That's going to block everyone on Matrix if just one person spams. What are Matrix's moderation tools? Can message rate from accounts that joined recently be limited in Matrix rooms?

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Are those other possible optimizations listed somewhere? What skills are required to do them? Is someone working on those already? Would more money help to make progress faster? As a non tech person, I'd like to help with raising awareness and fundraising.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can limit messages and even regex filter them on discord

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we should just move there 😭

I can apply regexes to bridge too :D

> this could be done IgnoreNicks=":libera.chat$ :xmr.se$"

(posted that in #monero heh :D)

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> If you are looking to help raise money for something, how about this?

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> bounties.monero.social/posts/102/1-…700m-monerujo-add-full-ipv6-support

"guess we just need more mods" < more than 1? Yep

Scott super fast to mute dan (a mod in another community), siren (runs another community), and ban me. But m i fkn a when any real work needs to be done

More like "we need to stop expecting to be able to cont with plowsof + a bunch of fifo workers"

(plowsof being the exception)

<d​atahoarder:monero.social> sus Monero

I can apply any of these rules on the bridge without a restart if needed github.com/42wim/matterbridge/blob/…atterbridge.toml.sample#L1249-L1330

Hey datahoarder

Rucknium unbanned me in monero-beef on matrix

Can you do the same on irc. Fkn scott

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Well, I want to help with nodes becoming unresponsive. I see that as major pain point, a top priority. I like the bounty idea tho, I need to get familiar with that, that might be the best approach.

I have OP there as leftover of bridging but I shouldn't need it myself. Is this action taken by monero mods themselves? I can do that if then ofrnxmr

not going to unilaterally just do it

@rucknium

Can datahoarder unban me in beef on matrix?

<w​oof5326:tchncs.de> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…9721d8e50d2065bddb5a24e86b58d8610da

<w​oof5326:tchncs.de> Are these resources enough?

<w​oof5326:tchncs.de> Pruned node

<w​oof5326:tchncs.de> Private node

you can increase disk size later

I cant see pic

so that's fine but keep an eye

growpart /dev/sda 1 + resize2fs /dev/sda1 :D

bump memory a bit more to have some leftoover

I have 8 GiB and monerod currently taking about 50%

pretty sure you can tune it lower but this performs

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Make sure to limit your inbound peers to what your upload can handle. We are slinging 370kb blocks around so if you have 50mbps up you prob shouldnt serve more than ~10 inbound peers

<r​ucknium:monero.social> D​ataHoarder: I unbanned ofrnxmr on the Matrix side of #monero-beef

irc.gammaspectra.live/4433576252dcb05c/image.png

<w​oof5326:tchncs.de> I had 4gb since i first started it, it froze once (full ram usage) but now its synced completely and usage has dropped a lot

I can do the same on IRC side @rucknium:monero.social

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Listen to the convo between Tuxsudo and Arctic Mine, upload bandwith was not the limiting factor for Cake Wallet nodes

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Oh, yes, that was a good conversation about parallelization.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> I run my own node and recently had to reduce the number of peers I was serving because it was maxing out my upload bandwidth since the blocks grew so quickly.

"Listen to the convo between Tuxsudo and Arctic Mine, upload bandwith was not the limiting factor for Cake Wallet nodes" dont believe everything you see on tv

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> What's a TV? I don't own one of those.

Old wallets were requesting much more data from nodes, which put a load on the node. More wallets = higher load. The extra data in the payload would compete from upload speed to p2p

Yes, lots of room for improvement on processing

But also, JUST the old wallets not doing delta updates is ddosing public nodes

we are still looking into the issue but i think it's more likely that it was a locking issue and not a bandwidth issue

all these concurrent read requests meant monerod wasn't able to lock the database to write a new block

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Monerujo will have to update to the newest monero since there is no way to adjust fees

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> At least not that I am aware of.

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Interesting! Would love to hear you and Tuxsudo chat about this other theory for bad Cake Wallet node performance. Any chance you could join a Saturday Monerotopia show?

ping me if you want to change any of the bridging configurations or discuss any other changes, as always selsta / etc.

DataHoarder: spam has stopped now so you can keep it as is

the problem is it's really difficult to reproduce the node falling behind issue locally

I bumped delay from 500 -> 1000 regardless btw, kept queue at 30. That should fix some flood reconnects

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> are you a fed?

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> I am a fed. A fed up mofo.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i was joking

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> ironic for a privacy coin to base itself on discord

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> which one?

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> there is only one

sir this is IRC

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Monero is not based on discord.

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> DataHoarder: lol

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> ...

Discord is ➡️➡️➡️ that way ➡️➡️➡️ 🚪

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> no, don't ... me

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> tell me what did you mean! please

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> I am selling my entire bag of monero if it ever touches Discord

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> I was responding to monerobull's message that said we should move communications to discord

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> Why

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> but it was a joke that went over my head

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> here

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> fyuuuuuuuu thanks god

there is some forsaken discord someone runs but it's not "based on" at all :D

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Forsaken indeed.

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> does anyone know the lore behind all that spam in the general monero irc chat?

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> why are bitcoiners targeting this coin?

tbh I am not curious about the lore behind the spam

spammers target anything

it's a single spammer not the whole force of the community

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> they aren't as far as im concerned

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> a stray crazy

where was the "lost everything to FTX" dude

they ended up just sending DMs to people with it instead of posting in channels

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> it feels good speaking here

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> other platforms for monero are toxic. I've tried reddit and 4chan ig that is where the problem lies

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> and twitter

4chan, vanilla 4chan, and "I can't believe it's not 8chan" musk site

no idea how you got so surprised at that

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> I mean what else is there?

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> lol

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> for a layman who doesn't know about matrix

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> "I can't believe it's not 8chan" Musk single letter site 😆

IRC is very old so it should be well known and used right? :D

there is Fediverse in general

but good luck finding the right people there

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> or finding them and not getting your ties with them severed by an overzealous admin

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> ☝️ why Nostr is the future.

just make your own instance

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> "just"

GoToSocial ez

matrix is the same ngl, you see the same spam coming from few instances

so they get moderated

some of these instances get 1% legit users 99% abusers

PeerTube and similar also are part of Fediverse, you can follow people there from other networks too, or follow PeerTube from GoToSocial / Mastodon / etc.

anyhow enough offtopic-ish

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> has anyone thought of how monero will look like 50 years in time? what will happen when the core devs want to retire?

<e​ximietate:converser.eu> is there a process of changing members of the core team in the future?

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> DataHoarder I don't think it's offtopic, social media is paramount to monero community

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> core dev team is based on invitation from members. It is mainly drove by your contributions to the monero source code and your intent to be a maintainer. As for other workgroup like the website I think it is free to join. Idk how the core team handling the monero general fund wallet works tho.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> If someone could know he would have been elsewhere from now. There are no guarantees monero will survive in the next years but what's sure is that if we give up it'll die. If the core devs want to retire, they'll do it and hopefully other competent devs will be willing to learn and replace them

what is this talk of a docs repo?

<f​elizduq:matrix.org> I think its open source ideals are in good hands and will continue to enjoy the respect of other privacy projects in crypto and beyond

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> We will fork selsta

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Ily…Create docs repo :)

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/uCNUBOzHPLoiqFloUHvPftFp

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> 🎉

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> What kind of rule is that lol

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> PurpleI2P/i2pd #2034#issuecomment-1988289681

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Oh it was kovri lmao

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Lol at rotki

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> They wanted 532 xmr to add xmr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And since they didn't get it, they didn't add it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> But they did add haven lmao

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/GoWSKmlyLCwFbYRymSHozVjQ

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> who the fuck are these clowns

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> can we invoke our copyright and force them to change their name? 👉️👈️

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> cant tell me they didnt deliberately choose that name

<l​ouis.signet:monero.social> Double dipping

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> fluffypony :D

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Wtf ? @plowsof

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> I2pd also hates ipv6

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> "7. You must not be involved in any project under Monero license" < (old) i2pd

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> didn't know that

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> 1 sec ill grab link

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> cringe.jpg

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> PurpleI2P/i2pd #1965#issuecomment-1706153466

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> I see. Its because of kovri

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Well, didnt we fall out with kovri too 🤣

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I struggle to understand if this is wildlifepotato's opinion or general russian hate against ipv6

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> There is another which is way for misleading

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Same prefix, but different domain

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Then tells another project to achieve itself

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> We should contact monerium about becoming a monero company

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> "hey, wanna integrate monero?"

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I hope in before Q4 2024 we got lot of xmas present for the community. r/monero is so dead around these times. When Serai DEX and Haveno will release it'll give so much fresh air

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> Monero.town is where its at

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Hello fellow monero towner

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> haveno + basicswap + serai = binance who

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> We use all at once?

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Haveno for on/offramp, basicswap for atomic, serai for liquidity pools

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> before q4 is such a depressing goal

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> i like q2/3