ofrnxmr feat BasicSwapDEX - take over the world pt 2 has moved to funding! ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/ofrnxmr_basicswap.html

ofrnxmr feat BasicSwapDEX - take over the world pt 2 is now fully funded! ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/ofrnxmr_basicswap.html @luigi1111

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> Only 2 contributors 😅 some ppl have so many mooneros

<r​brunner7:monero.social> What? First, moved to funding, which is astonishing enough. And now fully funded in a few hours, by 2 contributors? Are you kidding me?

<r​brunner7:monero.social> I guess now the world really has to prepare to be taken over by that BasicSwap gang :)

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> apotheon: the #monero-docs:monero.social workgroup have some doubts regarding licensing, maybe you could offer some insight?

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<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Spot the Monero sticker (placed by me at Defcon 32)

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> :^)

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<3​21bob321:monero.social> give that person a gold star

Is that BasicSwap thingy gonna be more useful than Haveno?

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Basicswap aims to be a crypto <-> crypto dex from what I understand, different use from haveno

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> As haveno is a fiat <-> xmr platform above all

i though Haveno did both c2c and f2c swaps?

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Yea it can do crypto trades too but its not the main goal is what I'm saying

ah ok, fair enough

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Basicswap AFAIK aims to so crypto trades as its main goal

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Serai dex too

not sure if others got this, but i received an email from Proton

this is the podcast link: youtube.com/watch?v=gUGJje2jvck

probably just auto-generated, and means nothing but thought i would share anyway

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> holy moly, ofrnxmr taking over the world

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> Illuminati funded him

I have heard that others have received that midipoet

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i guess i really did miss a lot in the past few weeks lol

Yes, it's been under review forever so no change in status lol

Have not listened to the podcast

Just reading that basicswap CCS. How much are we paying up front exactly?

Seems like hundreds of XMR

<h​ype13:monero.social> midipoet hating again. shut your mouth and let the eth cabal deliver

how is that hating?

<h​ype13:monero.social> conflict of interest. you hate ofrnxmr because he outed your shady antics and i dont want to go over this drama again. your bias is clear

<h​ype13:monero.social> so shut your mouth and let the monero community work on developing things. youre one of the bad actors ruining monero

lol. What shady antics?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> It got changed was 200xmr, not sure now

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> we are not paying bro

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> those 2 guys are paying him

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> you dont have any kind of influence on this tbh

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ofrn while youre at it, can you do haveno frontend 2.0? 🤣

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Imho dont pay anything upfront, only pay after the work is done

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> since the beginning this has been at most 20~30% upfront only if the dev has already open (and completed) a CCS before.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> So usually since this is the first time, they shouldn't be allowed any amount upfront

<3​21bob321:monero.social> All on black

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 1 month

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Basicswap is crypto only (atomic swaps to fiat arent possible)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> uh are they?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Says you

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> History says otherwise

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i know they are but i like thinking about funny systems

<m​atrix3893:matrix.org> Right now I'm raffling off 0.777 ETH among the conference participants at Zoom us80web-zoom.us/j/7681681573?pwd=EYRvEXpSguQGrDMLW4JVlGZC8tYtnwPO

<m​atrix3893:matrix.org> I am a trader with 7 years of experience and I am showing others my thorny path to success. I will be glad to everyone!

Choose me, I've been trading for 70 years

Dan Bob, you said that you are not sure now, such disappoint :(

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> the usually emphasize on the lack of perfectness on this rule. My stance is that N arguably bad decisions shouldn't influence over M arguably good decisions if M > N

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> from my pov you can only argue on why it is reasonable for your first CCS to receive your requested amount upfront

too late for that

Because some whale donor is cool with it

You didn't donate, didya?

First ccs or 5th ccs doesnt matter. What matters is delivery of promised goods. Plenty of proposers are postpaid and miserably fail to deliver. Just because something is "normal" doesn't mean its the best way to do something

I'd apologize for stepping outside of the box, but instead of apologizing how about i just deliver instead

i never said whether decisions to prefund any other ccs were good or bad, only that were not sll cut from the ssme clothe. Pre, post, etc don't matter. What matters is whether the commission work is being completed. The milestone system allows people to scam the community repeatedly. An upfront milestone allows makes it easier, but it doesnt turn

someone into a scammer

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Only here you can badmouth anything and anyone that ever crosses your path, heckle your way in, yet run a campaign for almost 2k moneros, and get it moved to funding required. 😂

it went to funded*

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Only here can you be stolen a bag with more than 500k in it and just handed wallet back and you are still taking care of it! We trust you!

Meanwhile there are other ccs still unfunded. My donors dont agree with you

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> What a joke, love to see it.

You work for cake and have like 3 active proposals, i think you should stfu

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Don't get me started with the other moron unbanning this turd. 🤣

And youre notoriously the biggest "badmouther" of all monero's time. Cant even join dev meeting without random attacks

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Is anyone typing? I only see unreadable gibberish on my screen.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > <o​frnxmr> You didn't donate, didya?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lol nice loaded question.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> anyway excited to see basic swap progressing

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> definitely a software I wish to utilize more often

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> also why is every dex on earth have to use shitty languages like python and java. Only Serai is making good choices

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> just repeating what was said earlier

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I wasn't there earlier + unrelated

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Oh wait not unrelated

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I see what you mean

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I think I found a minor bug. Can anyone confirm? In the `monerod` console, input `print_pl publicrpc 20`. Then try `print_pl publicrpc 100`. I think monerod first pulls the first `X` peers from the list and then applies the `publicrpc` filter. Applying the filter and then pulling `X` items makes more sense IMHO.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lgtm

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 100 only pulled a handful of peers, all of them which have public rpc

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Ok try 1 or 2

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ah i see

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its pulling first 10 then filtering the 10

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its "pull a batch of 100, only show the ones that have public rpc" << probably was a lot easier to implement that logic

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> In this case, "limit" = the raw, (prefiltered) batch size

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i agree with this one

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> just use rust👍️

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> NodeJS apps are so annoying. Too many people going to prod with known exploits and gaping holes in their webstack like this: nodejs.org/en/blog/vulnerability/april-2024-security-releases

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> Just makes me think.. "What else didn't they think of" and "Why the hell are we building webservers in javascript?"

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> pencilled a meeting for this saturday, requesting feedback for some CCS proposals

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> monero-project/meta #1055

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> lederstrumpfs comment ( repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/477#note_25710 )should receive a response from binarybaron soon. points out some inaccuracies in their knowledge of Farcaster and suggests moving toward an unstoppable swap gui that incorporates both farcaster and comit swaps.. eth<->xmr also.

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Because you can deploy something in 10 minute vs 10 months

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> and in the issue, some thoughts over ofrnxmrs open proposal "ofrnxmr support, docs, site, meta++ (totw pt3)

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> " and where the community stands on that after the bsx merge. merge it? wait? has anything changed for the updooters now?

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> And using rust doesn’t prevent someone from writing bad code

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> I would probably argue it makes it much more likely for someone to write bad code

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Anyway. Back to working on my python dex.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i hear good things about java

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> I may be vastly oversimplifying, but from what I understand, every new programming language basically makes programming somewhat easier and, in general, is more memory safe against bad code. Writing in assembly or binary is quite difficult. Writing in C and C++, you can fuck up things easily. Writing in Rust, it's difficult to do so.

<j​effro256:monero.social> monerobull: monero.town instance appears to be down. Cloudflare is giving gateway timeout error messages

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah just went down

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> its worth it if its a long term or big project

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> at least, you "can" write good code with rust

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> but can you achieve the same result with python? well, maybe you could but its going up from 10 minutes to 15 months, and it wont be as good as the original rust code

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> ofc, we cant expect everyone to learn rust(specially people with programming background)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> but at least, we can acknowledge the benefits of working with rust for possible rust transition in the future😄

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> who knows, maybe someone did volunteer for it

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> ofc, we cant expect everyone to learn rust(specially people with programming background)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> but at least, we can acknowledge the benefits of working with rust for possible rust transition in the future😄

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> who knows, maybe someone did/will? volunteer for it

<a​mmortel:monero.social> I would like to spend some free time on it but I can't program

<y​asabi:matrix.org> and yet it still took three years for BSX to ship in its current state, without classes and with spaghetti conditionals littered everywhere

<a​mmortel:monero.social> How to learn trust in the scope of contributing to monero?

<a​mmortel:monero.social> Rust obviously

<y​asabi:matrix.org> @ammortel look at cuprate here: github.com/Cuprate/cuprate

<y​asabi:matrix.org> its an ongoing effort to reimplement monerod in rustlang

<r​ucknium:monero.social> plowsof: From zfnd.org/financial-transparency I get about 3.4 million USD spent on Zebra (Zcash's Rust node re-write) for 2021-2023, assuming I didn't make any data entry mistakes. It looks like they were developing it before 2021, but the foundation didn't have disaggregated numbers in its reports prior to 2021. The Q3 2021 report was missing, too.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> AFAIK Zcash is switching to Zebra as their main node release. Zcash's C++ node was a fork of bitcoin. It had a lot of bitcoin stuff that Zcash didn't want or need.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Oops. I meant 3.8 million USD. 3834123

thank you Rucknium

<o​hchase:envs.net> side note with Cuprate and Rust in general... Im looking now for the full study but anyways it mentioned that when considering c/c++ versus Rust open source code bases, those built in Rust end up having more contributors because of confidence to contribute etc

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'm a rust evangelist but from my experience this is merely community/social caused. Zig is having the same contributor boom Rust had 5 years ago.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and in monero context, there isn't a single Rust developer that doesn't code in C/C++.

<o​hchase:envs.net> I agree that the social / new factor plays into the attention

<o​hchase:envs.net> Though that doesn't mean its not worth tapping into if the bones are solid too

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i guess you're right

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> 0.75 xmr to the jet fund courtesy of an ofrnxmr donor plowsof/scrape_ccs_fr ae083d5

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 10xmr to generalfund courtesy of ofrnxmr customer support ***

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> x.com/WatchFund/status/1822135800793817371

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> ya know, im kinda wondering if you could use your nostr identity to generate a monero private key which you then encrypt and broadcast as a nostr note. Then you put your nsec into any monero wallet, it connects to the nostr relays, gets the key, decrypts it and sets up your wallet.

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> ofrnxmr donating to GF

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i guess its time to reset the world

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Funny how over funding goes to GF term deposit 50yrs

looks like a whale agreed to fund ofrn, which is why it was moved to funding

kinda like how the Tesla proposal worked (:

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I never spoke to any whale

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It was moved to funding after 3 + months of bs

didn't say you did. you speaking to a whale wouldn't make any difference

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Fact is, i was going to campaign for donations. I was notified by a community member on simplex that it was funded

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i mean, merged

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Free willy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Someone then msgd me to ask where it went / why it was taken down, and then i noticed it was funded

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I doubt anyone reached out to Luigi and toks him it would be funded

congrats nonetheless. hope you deliver

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> There WAS anon user(s) who commented that theyd fund me first "take over the world" proposal, and this was when general fund was being spammed with donations

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i have no idea if they are the same person

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> But they only funded basicswap, they didnt fund vost, so perhaps a different donor

are you going to close your other ccs now?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> no. Completely unrelated

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And of course we'll deliver. Preparing the schedule over next couple days and we'll start the hard work later this week or beginning of next

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 482 (TOTW3) ccs wasnt an "either/or". I wasnt throwing everything at the wall tk see what sticks. TOTW3 = TOTW1 but better explained, and now that im unbanned i'm already doing some of the proposed work

completely unrelated except that both will be competing for your time

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> No, both are a~20-25hrs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> thats budgeting ~6-8hrs/day. Babyfood

maybe part 3 should follow once we see how part 2 goes? and why is one 14 xmr/month while the other is 20/xmr with all else being equal?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> part 2 is _comoletely unrelated_, and pt3 is already being done

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> part 2 is not 20, it averages out to ~14, its just paid at an accelerated pace due to the larger initial strain and completely different job.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> pt 3 is internal "monero-project" focused, and again, already in progress

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> the only thing equal is the person collecting the milestone. The rate is unintentionally similar, with bsx actually being lower. There's nothing else equal about them

wut? you just said the hours are the same. one is 14xmr/month while the other is "M0/M1/M2 = 20xmr/month (60xmr/3months) to ofrnxmr"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> bsx is 160 for the whole term (1yr)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Bsx is higher per/hr rate in the beginning

it literally says 20xmr/month though. plus a 160xmr discretionary slush fund

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> but avg /yr is less than pt3

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> plus 160?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> its 160 total for 12mth

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Ofrn’s movie got funded lets move on

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Help ofrn fest basicswal take over the world

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> helo a movie feat monero win an oscar

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Maybe he wants creds for me stealing his title

my milestone 0 was better tho

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Anyway, so answer the initial question "did erc close website ccs when he waas funded for haveno" << no

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Your milestone 0 was "pay to distribute movie". Mine is "pay for dev work"

"M0 = 80xmr to ofrnxmr to pay for bounties / extra help, and/or bonuses to backend/frontend devs"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> One of these actually results in improvements to monero's ecosystem

sounds like a slush fund. there's also another 80xmr going to your slush fund in M3-B

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> and that 80xmr helps monero devs join in

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> No, if unused, bounty money will towards other ccs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If used, it goes towards paying new contributors

I hope those are real contributors and not pseudonyms of existing ones (:

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> yes. I intent them to come from monero

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Anyways

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Intend

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> cmon geo. I don't have time to plot and scheme

<3​21bob321:monero.social> So when someone going to sue getmonero for wrong licence?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And i dont support scammers. And i do support our largely volunteer community devs being able to benefit from building

I think your (endless?) proposals are the beginning of the end of the CCS as we know it, which is as it should be. the winds of change...

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> endless?

4 more years, 4 more years

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Your proposal was bs compared to TOTW3

my proposal did what it set out to do. you can't say the same about any of your proposals (yet)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Same amount of $, but you just spend the money on paying your way into film industry and delivered nothing

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> TOTW3 is already in progress ya weirdo

it would be nice if you were able to stick to the topic at hand

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And 10/14 of my first milestone was donated to generalfund

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I am on topic. "<g​eonic> my proposal did what it set out to do. you can't say the same about any of your proposals (yet)"

nice virtue signal. after barking about the GF for a year

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Your movie didn't feature monero and didnt do anything for monero

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> What did your set out to do?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I didn't send the $ to the generalfund

seems like you're triggered. go type up another ccs proposal, it will calm your nerves (:

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The person i helped did as thanks to me. They didn't know any better

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Sorry, between these 2 proposals, im all booked up. No time for movie trailers

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> TOTW4 will have to wait til 2026

"If this proposal is merged, I will likely be good through til 2026."

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> correct ^

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Thats the one 🙏 ty

and merging part 2 means you're "good" until when?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Unrelated

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Basicswap has nothing to do with time or work of totw1 or 3

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Basicswap will finish in good shape and continue to be maintained and improved upon for years to come

you numbered them yourself and put them in a sequence. can't make them unrelated when it suits you

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I numbered them because i felt like it

which makes them related

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> and called them TOTW because i felt like it

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not because they have any connection to one another

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I shoukd have called it "help ofrn win an oscar pt3"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Does that make it related to your ccs?

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> Such interrogation, let him work.

anyway, wasting time here. thank you to whoever donated so we see if you can actually deliver or if you're just a troll and a bad actor, as some claim

it's your moment to shine, ofrn!

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its going to be pretty nice watching you all eat your socks

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Going to be a real awkward silence while yall try your best to make up some new angle to make yourself feel good about doing fuckall for monero

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Geo, we agree on one thing, right? Diego is supposed to replace scott

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He says he cant, because youll give him shit.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I thought you were on board with that

to wrap it up -- I wished you luck an hour ago and I'll be cheering you on along the way. but no more ccs money, please. one swindle at a time. (:

Diego can do whatever he wants, he doesn't need my permission

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You downvoted my ccs before you wished me luck 🥴

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Mixed signals

I downvoted your unmerged ccs, which as you said is UNRELATED to the one that was merged

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> So i can only work a part time, external job? Stfu lmao

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Im not going to stop working on monero projects just because your malicious ass says so

and I'll be downvoting any other proposals you make until you deliver (or not) on this one

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> "only 1 swindle at a time"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> unrelated swindle, and since when can you only have 1 ccs at a time?

(not that that matters)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> haveno + website

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> molly + sdk

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> So if erc is working in haveno, he cant maintain website?

show us you're not a bad actor and deliver on the 1685 xmr that was entrusted to you

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> entrusted to me? I dont have any of it

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> (yet)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its sitting on the boat w luigi

spend less time here and more time doing all the productive things you claim to be doing

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> merge 482 and maybe i would

IOW, get to work as dave.jp said (:

the extortion never ends eh?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i have 20hrs/week available to shitpost

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nah, i was doing the work (still am), but you clowns are asking me to stop

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Literally telling me to only work in basicswap for the next 12months

you were OK with working only on docs for the next 12 months, no?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> or the next 1 months, or the next 2 weeks, whatever arbitrary bs youre talking about

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> No

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 482 is docs, site, support, community, and meta

"If this proposal is merged, I will likely be good through til 2026." <== someone else wrote this?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And working w devs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Thats not "only docs"

sure, but you were OK with working only on 482 for the next 12 months

now you have a bigger proposal merged and somehow that's not enough?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> no, otherwise id have closed 457

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i didnt have 2 proposals open to "see what sticks". They were both intended to pass

ok, we're going in circles. I hope you deliver and prove all your naysayers wrong. until then your shitposting isn't doing you any favors.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I dont need favors

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> and i dont need to prove naysayers wrong, that just comes with the territory

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I definitely am not looking for the approval of such peoole either

Selsta nioCat and luigi have timed out on irc, we need thoughts and prayers

Ignore, theyre back, endogenic too

hello?

I noticed several irc users timing out, seems to be a network issue, welcome back

plowsof: rumors

Oh my scrollback

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> As long as you don't burn your oatmeal again...