<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> FYI just posted y'all's CCS Ideas on X via @MoneroSpace. Good luck. plowsof hardenedsteel spirobel xcancel.com/MoneroSpace

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> vostoemisio: xcancel.com/MoneroSpace/status/1835506579157725203

what would they ever do without your support

<m​mxxx:monero.social> they'd hire diego back :p

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> diego was hired back

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Not sure if I'd prefer Diego over plowsof at this point...

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Sorry bb lol.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Me neither

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Rip. Diego's plans are foiled

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> (/s)

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> thanks

<3​21bob321:monero.social> decrypt said magic was leading the way for us. No need for co-ordinators

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> hello i am from magic

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> im leading the way, please deposit 500 XMR from the general fund to my magic wallet

<3​21bob321:monero.social> you are leading us

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> (/s)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one

Hi, guys. My friend ask me: "Why don't use you just a proved to work known to be safe, most popular cryptocurrency Bitcoin, why do you use monero, you're a scammer, or why do you need it???". Can you please recommend me how to answer them, thanks!

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Kraken** wallet

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> When ccs paid magic, the funds were deposited _directly_ into kraken. (talk about EAE .. -__-)

I am not a scammer obviosly, I chose monero because anonymity/privacy ideas, but people (my friend including) associate that with illegal activities and other misuses

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> >my magic wallet

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> >my

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> big_dota2_player: bitcoin is expensive and slow af

Yeah, but the problem is that my friend (as I understand) things that the only one reason to choose monero instead of standard popular cryptocurrencies (BTC, SOL, TRX, others, IDK) is illegal activity

And I kinda don't know what to say

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> your friend should give me his wallet address

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> transparent chains are like bank accounts but everyone can see where and when you spend your money, how much you have, etc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:mat…cial&via=matrix.org&via=libera.chat

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> mb

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if people would actually use bitcoin to pay for things, you could stalk the receivers wallet and rob rich people at gunpoint

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> people do this already btw

already?! Haven't heard of that...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> news.bitcoin.com/london-college-stu…point-by-8-thugs-for-93k-in-bitcoin

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> cryptonews.net/news/security/21294608

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> bbc.com/news/articles/cw5w5zyg979o

<f​rog_legs:matrix.org> Some guy just 47 years in prison for holding people hostages in thier home

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> cryptotimes.io/2024/06/18/indian-ha…-1112-eth-in-london-machete-robbery

<f​rog_legs:matrix.org> justice.gov/opa/pr/man-convicted-vi…sion-robberies-steal-cryptocurrency

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero Monero Offtopic mebbe

<f​rog_legs:matrix.org> He is only 24. Now his life is ruin

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and these are the extreme cases. you could also just be discriminated against because of your transparent coins history: sethforprivacy.com/posts/fungibility-graveyard

Big thanks!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also, on chains like eth, you can actually be robbed on-chain

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> by stuff like sandwich attacks that observe your transaction before it even gets confirmed and bribing block producers to re-arrange transactions to steal from you

I guess my friend kinda sees the world as "misuse possible = bad thing". To me this looks like a good philosphical question and I don't think I can out-argue him

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> monero is a tool like any other

at the same time, is there any situation where monero can be misused and bitcoin cannot be? I guess no

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> >misuse possible

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you know where that is the case as well? knives, guns, baseball bats, etc

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also, the most crypto crime by a large margin is done using USDT

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> traditional banking is WAAAAAAY more private than using a transparent chain.

Monero isn't really :misuse-friendlier"

Monero isn't really "misuse-friendlier" than bitcoin?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it actually gets mis-used more often than monero in scams because its easier to buy

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> by a massive margin as well

Probably a nonsense question because morality and "misuse" are a subjective terms and I don't know what bitcoin (or monero) is for law) Wait.. does the law even know what bitcoin/monero/other cryptocurrencies exist?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> of course

Ok, I don't see any reasons to "boycott" monero/not use it only because "its misuse-friendlier"

and this is the answer for my friend

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/CGZnpXbojiWMXabTJpXLooqp

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> SHlarpedUM

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> p04r8qc16sw61.png

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i am proudly on the left part of that curve

xd

You've just sent a file named p04r8qc16sw61.png? It is unaccessable from IRC?

Or it is that screenshot of post about larp?

Is there alternative monero node implementations?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> cuprate.org

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> who da heck runs haveno.markets?

<k​arano:poddery.com> you mean da website ?

<k​arano:poddery.com> there isn't another haveno network i think. they just made a website showing haveno-reto stats ?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Yes.

I am not acquainted with the account (so not an endorsement), but has a lot of followers -> x.com/SallyMayweather/status/1835688698446327877

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> Because drugz? Lol

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> Zyn in singapore lol

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> Bitcoin lost fungibility when peeps decided some sats were worth more than others lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> actually no, i dont buy drugs from the darknet

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> im not trying to die to a sand-grain-sized piece of fent-lace

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> I'm just curious why left and not right

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> well its both but calling yourself "big brained" is cringe

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> calling yourself stupid is not as cringe, especially in comedic context

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’m stupid

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> So what do you buy on the darkweb? I've always wanted to buy one of those mystery boxes lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> those are a scam and an invention of clickbait youtubers

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nobody is actually selling mystery boxes on the darkweb lmao

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> Oh I'm aware.

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> I just think it's fun.

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> I know too many witchy people that are likely to believe some of the more occult ones lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i dont buy anything tbh

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i buy legal stuff like hosting, vpn, domains, etc

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we dont want to support illegal enterprises now do we

<k​arano:poddery.com> yeah random unrelated people find monero and promote it.

<k​arano:poddery.com> monero doesn't need much marketing :)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Rip

Btw, does ISP know what I am mining XMR?

And if yes how?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Ports

<r​ucknium:monero.social> b​ig_dota2_player: Depends how you are mining. If you are mining to a centralized pool, probably yes since you'll be connected to the pool's IP address and the ISP can see that. If you are solo mining, the ISP will just see that you are running a Monero node, which does not necessarily mean you are mining.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> When you find a block while solo mining, you would be the first to broadcast it. The ISP _might_ detect that event if they are performing deep packet inspection on all of your traffic, because it would see that the block was broadcasted from your node that it did not receive from someone else first.

BTW, that's the average delay between new blocks?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Two minutes

Oopss, yeah, 2 minutes of course, I forgot)

> How does Monero have value? Monero has value because people are willing to buy it. If no one is willing to buy Monero, then it will not have any value. Monero’s price increases if demand exceeds supply, and it decreases if supply exceeds demand.

Maybe this part of FAQ should mention what people may want buy monero for using it as a MoE?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> You can go to #monero-website and suggest there

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Or I guess it's #monero-site

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its both 🥴

How exchanges can be a legal way to buy/sell (for fiat) XMR?

#monero-website isn't listed on getmonero site

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> getmonero.org/community/hangouts

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Last one on the list

it's #monero-site not #monero-website

Its both

On matrix* its both

Monero-site:matrix.org is broken, so its #monero-website:matrix.org + #monero-site:monero.social

ok