<n​ormaluser8900:matrix.org> Is there a sh xmr escrow service merchants can add to their site

<j​ohnherry:matrix.org> t.me/+fk5a2eNOe9BhY2I8

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<3​21bob321:monero.social> monerobull

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> [@xmrscott:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/@xmrscott:monero.social) [@diego:cypherstack.com](https://matrix.to/#/@diego:cypherstack.com) 🔨🎯

<4​rkal:monero.social> Just submitted a proposal to finish developing dmvp2p. repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/531

<4​rkal:monero.social> Open to feedback

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> whats dmvp2p ?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> TrueBird: why don't you click the link and find out?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Silly.

<4​rkal:monero.social> It stands for Donate Monero Via P2Pool. You can read the proposal to learn more

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> WOW. I just wake up alright

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Let's take this outside, bring the gloves.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Wonderful idea. Looking forward it

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> your new hat looks so cute rottenwheel 🎅

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Last time you spoke to me you called me "stupid motherfucker" in the kernal room. Change of mind? 😉

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…/kernal.eu/IxtniTieorREjBXGmTOEqmQX

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> what happened to kewbit

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> it seems like his appearance changed

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> evolved?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i always thought he was some kind of water pokemon. but now he looks more like a fire one. like charmander a bit but mixed with pikachu and some kind of dragon thing

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> anyway ... i was focused and away for a while and didnt really have time to read the chat every day

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i hope i didnt miss anything important

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Scamr

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> True colors

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He used his marketing skills to get paid 75 xmr for code that didnt work, while squatting crates and domains, while pretending to "be" haveno

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> librejo.monerodevs.org/SyntheticBird/kewbit-drama

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> librejo.monerodevs.org/SyntheticBir…09-2024-haveno-com-domain-squatting

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> has someone tried the binaries?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Yes. He released some proprietary alpha binaries at some point with basic UI feature like making offer and shit

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but it was proprietary

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You will never see this level of completness ever again form him now that he is *comitting all his work to the repo*

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> comitting all his work to the repo?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> image.png

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> kewbit .... isnt he the developer of qubesOS ? 😀

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Wut lol

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> I think people thought that because he wrote an ai generated blog post about qubesos

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> tbh there are some people that just go by keywords that were mentioned somewhere and then do next token prediction

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> very associative thinkers so to speak

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> ever since i name dropped qubesOS months (years?) ago

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> MAGICGrants/Monero-Fund-Elections #10

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Check the reactions

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> maybe kewbit is the secret project of openai called Q*

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> think about it kew === Q

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> sounds almost the same

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Free Kewbit

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > I have a clear vision of how to appropriate funds efficiently so they are not wasted, I practice this every day, as a domain broker, I builder up value from firstly, recognizing the value, being example to bring out more value in people with key motivation tactics which I find to be specific to that individuals desires.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> Frew Kewbit

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> his name was kewbit

<r​ucknium:monero.social> IMHO, he took advantage of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> maybe he is a shadow broker

<r​ucknium:monero.social> > The halo effect (sometimes called the halo error) is the proclivity for positive impressions of a person, company, country, brand, or product in one area to positively influence one's opinion or feelings.[1][2] The halo effect is "the name given to the phenomenon whereby evaluators tend to be influenced by their previous judgments of performance or personality."[3] The halo effe<clipped message>

<r​ucknium:monero.social> ct is a cognitive bias which can prevent someone from forming an image of a person, a product or a brand based on the sum of all objective circumstances at hand.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Creating the appearance of expertise.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> to solve a very hard problem that might be unsolvable

<r​ucknium:monero.social> With the blog, etc. And took advantage of the benefit of the doubt.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> this so much true. I'm giving you the impression that I like you and all but I just want to backdoor Cuprate and monero for the CIA.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It's been a 3 year long social engineering operation

<r​ucknium:monero.social> IIRC, he even convinced the monero twitter account to re-tweet his blog posts, but MRL spy node ban lists don't get tweeted.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> the bird is the word

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> The amount of people believing birds are real is insane

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Anyway, the dmvp2p CCS proposal is very similar to the Patronero CCS proposal that was closed a few years ago: repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/310

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I don't like the proposal because it is very unlikely that it will generate more XMR donations than it consumes.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Also bought basicswap.net

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And moneroecosystem.com. (its not just haveno)

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> who runs the twitter account btw?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20240706#c396932-c396939

There is only speculation

Seems to be someone easily excitable

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> so snowman in the monero twitter matrix channel is john snow? I asked him for his github / twitter handle a few times always dodged the question

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> response to critique is effectively: run your own monero twitter

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> tbh i dont really care

<r​ucknium:monero.social> AFAIK John Snow was a joke reply. See geo nic's reply (I figured out how to highlight multiple lines on the log website, so pay attention to it lol)

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> there is potential for improvement, but its probably not easy to make changes ( probably for the best)

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i just think its strange that we cant just have transparency about such a simple thing

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Probably because the person(s) running it don't want to be bothered all the time about tweet this or that or don't tweet this or that

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> yeah its probably for the best

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> at the same time its a waste of potential

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats why they tweet keystone twice in 1 day

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Anyway, follow me on Bluesky because I'm banned on Twitter: bsky.app/profile/rucknium.me

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> you dont love your heckin keystone ofrnxmr ?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> and ledga

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm excited about keystone's weekly progress reports

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> How tf did you get banned on twitter, but not me?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Can't verify identity

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…/kernal.eu/IAjNGPLBYGEsmrwvkUvHsLqv

<m​alori:xavi.lu> how do you even get banned of twt

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I didnt verify mine

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I made an account and got banned in a few hours IIRC. Too dangerous.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i have a blsky account but never use it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ive been shadow / temp banned for DMing ppl, but that does away. Learned to never dm anyone that doesnt follow me

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Goes*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> lmfao.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i want to stop using twitter too havnt used it for almost a month

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> who made that graphic

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> what a beauty 😂

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Since we are on the subject, how come the @monero account has never, not even once, reposted or given attention to RetoSwap?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> say cisgender a bunch of time

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Because @monero if smoking crack

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> bsky will start banning too. still amazed how they manged to copy twitter and make it worse

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Is*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Bluesky is a literal battlefield

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> I know, I thought it would be a good time to bring it up...

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Even transgenders are getting labelled transphobic

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lmao

<r​ucknium:monero.social> You're right. I saw a nerd fight about zero-inflated Poisson regression the other day.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Did I just hear a concept of statistics I do not know about ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> @monero tweets garbage

<m​alori:xavi.lu> zero inflation yeah ik that

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And sprikles in community stuff to try to shut us up

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> how to be populor on bluesky: wee all hat eleooonn musskk, riggght, riggght??? give me updoots

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> I'd be more fine with the current tweeting if "it" also tweeted relevant and important updates

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not me

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Well

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We had that convo, and @monero agreeded to that

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> let me be intern i will pump us to 30 bil

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> But then started doing shit like tweeting that they were excited about basicswap being excited, then immediately following with 2 keystone tweets

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Ultimately, I liked how the account was handled when I got interested in Monero a few years back - when it focused solely on protocol updates and was purely about Monero, not making pre-announcements for-profit companies

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Including Retoswap ^

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> vosto gets hired to make 30 second sigma brain rot + monerochan

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> lfg bois

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It used to be sgp posting cake every other tweet

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Before that then

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ah, you said a "few" years, i read "couple"

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i liked it when fluffy went in bitcoin uncensored to shill the alphabay pump

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It's honeslty trash now

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> if we can get the spirit of that time back it will melt faces

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its like an rss feed of monero news, curated by keystone

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> its getting fugged by corpo rats

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 0 personality, 0 important tweets, 0 representation / 100% out of touch

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> sad to look at tbh

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Like ruck said - still no tweet about linkinglion

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> wtf is dat

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Spy nodes -> mrl recommends running a banlist

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i dont think anybody cares

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i would rather have stories about people buying things on the darknet

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> current offerings

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The nodes spy on monero and bitcoin, possible other blockchains

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> just walk right up to the line

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> and ate 75% of our node network

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> but thats irrelevant information for the normie public

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Rather nothing subjective at all

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> also the twitter account has the purpose to shill

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It's important for "monero" to disclose this to the crypto community

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> that is corporate

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> keep it safe

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> it's not keeping it safe

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> it is fungible currency

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> why would you care what someone does on the darknet? Makes no sense

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> it's their business

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> the "cryto community" has an attention span of 10 seconds if you stretch it

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> it is looking for 100x gems

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> it is looking for degeneracy

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> I don't care about the crypto community

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm talking about other projects

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not users, but devs / leaders in other projects

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> a while ago i saw a youtube video by a large channel not focused on crypto. the guy talked about his adhd and how he couldnt get meds... then he had a section were he clearly used monero to buy it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i'm talking specifically about the spy nodes here

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> it shows its much more grey and normalized than we think. human stories like that are good

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> They are, but they are not for the @monero account to tweet

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Users / individuals can - just like that guy did

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> better than advertisments constantly

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> @monero shouldnt be an ad platform for whatever

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> tell a story

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> do something real

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> The guy already did - with great reach. That's perfect

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i also don't think @monero shouldnl explicity encourage DNM usage. We have middlegrounds with stuff like xmrbazaar

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i dont understand the objection. if there is a back end forth and a retweet by big account it incentivizes more of it and connects us to new people

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can sell anything on bazaar, even yourself, if its legal

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Advertising where to buy 1kg of cocaine on an us based centralized platform isnt a great idea

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> This is much better than status quo - I just prefer to draw the line more clearly

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> yeah probably get it banned

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not such a bad idea! @monero deserves to be banned for its keystone / brave wallet shilling

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> getting it banned wouldnt be the worst btw

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> because it is news in itself

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> and can just be rebuilt

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> so the biggest risk

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> is something else

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> it is being corpo. not standing out. being used by companies

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> being used by interests

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> of grifters

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> to promote their little blog

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> or BS

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> agree with you there. but at the same time an rss feed would solve this problem better. twitter needs to be more risque to stand out

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> or maybe relevant is the better word. the content needs to be relevant to the debate of the day. it needs to connect to what news is or it needs to create news

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> I don't think Monero's success rides or dies on X, we're not a startup

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> yeah it doesnt matter in the end. but still good to brainstorm. i am just saying on twitter you communicate with a mass audience that might not care that spirobel wrote an update for his ccs proposal or is yapping about some code shit

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> the average person just does not care

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> We got a ton of very intellectual accounts that does this type of "marketing" you are referring to for free because of their belief in digital cash - I think the official account should stay out of all that, just my 2 cents obviously

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> the question is: if it is not dev updates and not ads for companies, what is it then? i am also not for intellectual accounts and yapping

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Does it need to be anything else?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> "officialness" in the corpo sense does not really apply. so we need to define clearly what we mean by that

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Yeah I guess - If there is interest to define those guidelines it would be best to bring it up during a meeting

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> even then. not sure the twitter account listen to these meetings

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> bring it up during a meeting sounds good ---- but maybe this already makes it impossible because it is a very corpo thing to do

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> +1, that's why it's pointless to start drafting something right now, imho

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> tweets by committee also dont work

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> they are always milk toast trash

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I like milk toast

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> still there is latent demand for this form of officialness that is not corpo

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> some ritual dj shaman shit

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> is what is needed

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> cyberpunk style

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> noise:signal far too higg

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> maybe we can hire kewbit as an advisor to solve this for us

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I liked the acct better when it didnt tweet 4x a day

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> The excited Twitter account is directly increasing network security

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Every time the word excited is mentioned, we get a non zero hashrate bump

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Everytime I speak, climate change.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Everytime a cat stretch, some seconds pass

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> When I write message, matrix servers lose 20 more kB

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> My messages are also 20kb 🕑️

<s​iren:kernal.eu> It should periodically post orange cat pictures

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…dacted.org/CFxnqhdBtnYTBPLejNpRJmvr

Only orange?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Orange is the new black

Cat is the old black

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Garfield is the new cat ?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Any new drama?, besides syn kilimgl whales by message

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Killing*