<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Meeting this Saturday?

<h​into:monero.social> luigi1111 ping again for ccs

<h​into:monero.social> still awaiting payment:

<h​into:monero.social> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/469#note_28124

<h​into:monero.social> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/484#note_27936

<h​into:monero.social> new ones:

<h​into:monero.social> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/504#note_28229

<h​into:monero.social> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/522#note_28227

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Jeffro and selstas are than 24 hrs old. Payouts never come same day, even for selsta

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yes

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Starving devs sir

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Or has jet taken off again ?

Diego yes will put the meeting up soon

dukenuke1: is 1kg Daniel Solove? As the original blog is here: scribe.rip/@1kg/ive-got-nothing-to-…erstandings-of-privacy-b7ae8bf26603

<a​remor:matrix.org> 4pm utc?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yup

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bro plagiarised the whole post

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > Note: This is a Medium article based on an essay of the same title, published by Daniel J. Solove from George Washington University - Law School. I am simply mirroring such article on my self-hosted blog.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> shittiest cred ive ever seen

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No cred to 1kg

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Aren't you meant to put

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Reference: name and article in the beginning?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Maybe I am thinking of papers

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Or at footer (with original reference)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The medium blog isnt copied word for word. rottens should say, at the top, the authors name

it could definitely be clearer who actually wrote the blog post. but maybe 1kg is Solove, so i am not sure

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/YTDeqZUgWaaxLHAzqbSsgAuq

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Original, with credentials below the title

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no way bro weight 1 kilogram on 2023 08 13.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/TPFjPadBeaqqVXzJEcaaVgrc

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Yeah references at the end

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rottens, with disclaimer put after first paragraph.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Should be before paragraph, and should name the author

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Maybe 1000grams

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Supply charge

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> dEBRUYNE:

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this is a bot comment

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/mxfhlCtjgXKelciZONAFIoxM

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/RoKmYOxWPWucdIZLYdKPpVeF

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> hm ok maybe not

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> For my blog, i have a canary style crediting system. every post has "No AI usage here". When i eventually switch i will just remove "No AI usage here" so people will know. perfect right?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you use old reddit?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> You have to prove there is no ai

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> depends yeah

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> for modding and getting informatino its way better

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> noted ill try next time i have access

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> for modding and getting information its way better

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also reddit mod suite and REH

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> to see stuff like in the image

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/CVAQsTCSGYpKSSFOmkgudXLh

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> inshallah borther

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/vfHOkCYZvMbQgUaUdOkBchKA

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> idk, try checking downdetector

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/cfznNgapHugIGOkcMVrgRqfT

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> What is this garbage tier glow-work, third world cybercrime unit?

<s​iren:kernal.eu> It's really secure

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> t r u s t

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> I reached out to Vik about Cake error when trying to send to 1 integrated address and 1 regular. He discussed with team, and they came to conclusion behavior is correct, not an issue. "integrated addresses should not be included in multiple recipient transactions, that's how Monero codebase is configured, you can even try with gui and it will give him the same error"

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> I'll try with GUI wallet later to see what happens.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats what jeffro said

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Oh wait. Slight difference

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Vik said cant use them in multi recipient tx at all

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Try with cli

midipoet: I don't know, do you want to reach out to him and ask him?

lol

Bag of loudmouths. Send an e-mail to medium and then to 1kg! Plagiarism!

BREAKING: the Monero community is a vetted consortium of basement dwelling larpers that will proofread your mirrors and claim everything's plagiarism from their $50 Walmart PC chairs!

dukenuke1: no need to get salty - just a clearer reference of authorship is recommended. only fair to whomever 1KG is (as they authored the blog). The way you word it, it seems Solove did. You could just change the reference to: "This is a Medium article, originally written by 1KG, and found on [medium](scribe.rip/@1kg/ive-got-nothing-to-…erstandings-of-privacy-b7ae8bf26603), which in turn

draws inspiration from an essay of the same title, published by Daniel J. Solove, which is found [here](papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565). I am simply mirroring the medium article on my self-hosted blog. Larpers can go f themselves."

happy now?

midipoet: No lol.

I won't change it. Thanks for your valuable feedback, proofreader.

fair enough. up to you if you want to mirror articles without making it explicitly clear who the author is.

midipoet: I believe non-retards visit the blog.

That'll be enough for me, thanks for your valuable feedback yet again. <3

you're welcome honey bunny

xoxo

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Not a good look

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Mirrors content -> removes authorship

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> even if you follow the links, it sounds like rottensqueal is claiming to be 1kg and is reposting his own article

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Midipoet, even with your suggested change, i'd still say that the authorship/"note" should come before the first paragraph. Not written as if its a part if the article

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Tried w GUI, didn't work. "Error Can't create transaction: transaction was not constructed"

hinto: sorry I ran out of funds and need to get more

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> +1

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> futures are a bitch /s

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> LMAO

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Im missing so much gold post 😭

<j​effro256:monero.social> You can with `wallet2`, not sure why it isn't allowed in Cake

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> hinto its been 48 hours since initial review comments , you can spend time on that instead of collecting payout requests Cuprate/cuprate #355

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof, hinto have probably written more lines of correct code in 3 months that you will ever write in your life + he didn't stopped working and is actually doing multiple important things. I think he it isn't wrong to say your comment is a little misplaced here.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> If you wanna just say to hinto to avoid urging luigi, say "Hinto, please stop urging luigi, he knows"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Hinto stop pinging luigi every day

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Especially for other people

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> that's better phrasing thx

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Synbhebird (Crodyceps infected 🍄☣️) is that better

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ❤️ ty me

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Doesn't work with GUI either, I tried earlier today. What is wallet2?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> that is reassuring to hear Synbhebird (Crodyceps infected 🍄☣️) . it was already mentioned there is a curated list libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20250111#c485964 , boogs review awaits !

<j​effro256:monero.social> Really? That's weird. I'll check it out. Maybe I'm wrong about this

<s​needlewoods:monero.social> wallet2 is like the base for all other Monero wallets, if some feature does not exist there, it's often hard or impossible to add outside of it. Here is the source code github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet2.cpp

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Integrated addresses are deprecated anyway

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Is there documentation saying that?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> FiatDemise should say what he/she is trying to accomplish, especially if it is related to XMRChat. Because it could be an XY problem

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Very likely

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Xyproblem.info :D

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> I have been talking with Podcast 2.0 community, Adam Curry's Value for Value. They use Bitcoin Lightning. It allows them to split a payment among multiple recipients. They are interested in Monero and want to do the same with that.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero-project/monero #7889

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> not phased out (as to not break apps)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > Technically, payment processors would be still able to use integrated addresses without official support as long as the senders' wallets support it and they don't care about fingerprinting their transactions.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero-project/monero #7889#issuecomment-2096823219

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Use subaddresses(?)

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I was thinking that XMRChat is actually one good use case for a Monero payment channel network like BTClightning because it skips the 10 block lock and you can have the creators and users all connected to each other. Waiting 20 minutes to do another chat is probably annoying. But of course no PCN for Monero has been built yet.

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Need a unique identifer, a payment ID, so they can know which podcast, which show, and for the ability to assign a comment from a fan with the payment

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Need a unique identifer, a payment ID, so they can know which podcast, which episode, and for the ability to assign a comment from a fan with the payment

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Subaccounts work

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Is this because you are using a LWS backend without subaddress support? Subaddresses are a unique identifier.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> lws supports subaddresses

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Guess I need to learn about sub address unique identifiers now. We are using LWS for XMRChat but I don't know enough to really answer your question, would need to ping Saeed when he's available.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Subaddresses ARE unique identifiers

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> instead of just a few chars on the end of the main address, the entire subaddress is the identifier

midipoet: did you ever read anywhere in the linked medium article, the user 1kg claiming authorship of it? 🤔

or was it just that it was the profile it was published under? 🤔

did you check 1kg's post history, maybe? 🤔

dukenukem: no, but if you read the blog and the paper, there are substantial differences between them, which is why i questioned whether they were the same author

You seemed to suggest they were the same author (mainly as the reference sentence wasn't that clear in your own blog), which is why i asked.

hmm... no?

> Note: This is a Medium article based on an essay of the same title, published by Daniel J. Solove from George Washington University - Law School. I am simply mirroring such article on my self-hosted blog.

how does that suggest they are both written by the same person?

please, quote it out.

It says "...of the same title"

not same author? lol.

Because the commas don't separate the sentence clauses that clearly.

we'll hafta agree to disagree on this, comrade.

Your sentence does suggests they could be the same author

we'll hafta agree to disagree on this, comrade.

It's fine you disagree, i am not going to lose sleep on it. For the sake of clarity, you'd think you'd just change the reference.

Change the reference?

Yes, your reference sentence.

That references the original article/paper

Medium article, hyperlink. Essay _of same title_, hyperlink. "This is a mirror"

Plagiarism! Not a good look! Rottensqueal

Clowns indeed.

midipoet: what better "reference" than a direct link to the source? today we are slow, aren't we?

brb, changing the note to: absolutely written by me, rottenwheel.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> rottenwheel

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> MEEEEEOOOOOOOWWWWWwwwwwwwwww

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Anyways

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Always dramas in the Bahamas

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Does anyone know about these "Unstoppable domains" .xmr wallet addresses does it have any negative affect on persons anonymity?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> FiatDemise: i noticed that someone was able to get an instance of XMRchat up and running in #self_hosted_xmrchat:matrix.org, where any areas found that need improvement? or updated to docs made?

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Apart from fact they dont accept $xmr as payment method

<f​iatdemise:matrix.org> I think there is more work to do. They were able to load he home page, but ideally I'd like them to be able to create a tip page and successfully accept a tip too.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> privacyx: its just a text dns entry that your wallet can look up and retrieve (or is there something more fancy and decentralised involved?)

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks for putting that together FiatDemise sounds sane

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> I'm not sure not alot information provided. The fact you cant pay for it using XMR is troubling as they might be able to link your identity to your wallet address which chain anyalis would love

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Here's an article about OpenAlias medium.com/@JEhrenhofer/openalias-t…e-youve-never-heard-of-bbf4a991d0a8 Note: This is a Medium article created by SGP which i am mirroring here

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Thanks

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They are hosted on polygon

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Unstoppable domains isnt traditional dns, its like ENS (ethereum name service) but hosted on polygon

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The domain is owned by your polygon address, and you can inscribe your (various) wallet addresses to it

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I put all my unstoppable domains in `tx_extra`

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> I decided to test it and unless i done something wrong it turns out you need to provide your personal information which friggin stupid.

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Sorry my mistake unstoppable add a free domain promotion crap once I remove it I don't need to provide any information

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Sorry my mistake unstoppable added a free domain promotion crap once I remove it I don't need to provide any information

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Note font size is too big

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Dear community

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Is anyone able to `yt-dl*`, watch *Fuck RSA* from Trail of Bits?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Youtube literally banned any IPs I could possible have

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> it didn't banned

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It looks like this specific video is under special restriction

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> youtube.com/watch?v=lElHzac8DDI

<m​alori:xavi.lu> sure

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Always

<3​21bob321:monero.social> That's how I got the monerokon podcast audio

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I can watch it np

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Im cursed wtf

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I tried VPN, Proxies and Tor

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 403 forbidden

<m​alori:xavi.lu> probably need cookie token

<m​alori:xavi.lu> its ig age restricted or sum

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ooooooooh

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you may be right

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Tried clearnet? :D

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 403 forbidden

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I also tried plugging my mum as a peripheral

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 403 forbidden

<m​alori:xavi.lu> your mum as a peripheral?

<m​alori:xavi.lu> what your mom is a phone?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I also tried plugging my mum as a network card

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> wifi card

<m​alori:xavi.lu> getting 403 on clearnet too

<m​alori:xavi.lu> but using my cookies it work

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> just watching or also downloading

<m​alori:xavi.lu> ~~nvm it crashed wth~~

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> LMAO

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> <del>LMAO</del>

<m​alori:xavi.lu> i can watch it but im logged to a google acocunt

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ah

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> that must be why

<m​alori:xavi.lu> huh

<m​alori:xavi.lu> even with a cookies file I *just* exported I cant dl it with yt-dlp

<m​alori:xavi.lu> send.vis.ee/download/58368e0f85db9693/#LMU2Jcj-_VN574IIaMux6w

<m​alori:xavi.lu> cobalt.tools worked

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Need to be older than 18yrs ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> didn't know about cobalt.tools thx

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and thx u very much for the link

<m​alori:xavi.lu> I think yt-dlp is just broken? dunno usually it work with a cookies file

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Wonder when ffsend will be updated

<s​agewilder:unredacted.org> Is this the correct channel for discussing CCS-related topics?

yes

<s​agewilder:unredacted.org> Could someone clarify how the funding process works? I've noticed that some proposals have been fully funded by just one or two donors, but I was under the impression that the general fund wasn't being utilized.

when general fund contributions are made they are announced under the proposal by binaryFate (a member of the core team) recent comments can be found at repo.getmonero.org/binaryFate. this is not done for every proposal and usually the contribution is 30%~. there are monero whales that we need but do not deserve who contribute alot, and as

you've seen, fund some proposals with just one donation

<s​agewilder:unredacted.org> Appreciate the insight. I suppose these whales are anonymous.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> if they choose to be

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Some comment on proposals that they have or will donate, or how much

<s​agewilder:unredacted.org> Okay.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> We also get a transparency report too

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Ahahahahaha I am funny person

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Sorry for the offtopic, sagewilder: I'm curious about how you heard about the fcmp++ optimization contest, while seemingly being a newcomer. The contest was a draft and only really been discussed in meeting. But you actually never assisted to one as your question in MRL before meeting time.

<s​agewilder:unredacted.org> Someone who follows KayabaNerve on GitHub shared their repository with me in October. I was content to wait for the official announcement and then participate.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ah alr i see, it seems niche at the time so i wonder

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ah alr i see, it seems niche at the time so i wondered

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What's stopping you?

<s​agewilder:unredacted.org> Assurance of incentives.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> There's no assurance in a contest

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: Please don't bother people interested in a contest, with an assured prize pool to top participants, who aren't interested if there's no prize pool at all.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> sagewilder: I stepped back from my work on the Monero project and no one else stepped up to manage the contest. You may either open a CCS for the work you'd like to do, working as a developer for the Monero project in that regard, or unfortunately I'd write this off.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> define top participants

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And assured

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And assured prize pool (value)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I didn't bother anyone, btw. Sage is waiting on sidelines for something that may never come to be (contest assuredness). Pretty important to make that distinction

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> my "what's stopping you" is the same damn thing you just said about opening a ccs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not me telling them to chase a unicorn. Its me asking them what, exactly, they are waiting for. A ccs, a bounty, the launch of a contest? If they feel they would win such contest, they dont need to wait for anyone. If the contest would have also had prizes for runnerups, well thats a different story

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Theres also nothing stopping them from launching such a contest themself

jb said that he would have more info on the contest next week

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: The contest was going to fund a prize pool with tens of thousands of dollars with prizes for the top entries.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> If the entry met the rules, and beat the other competitors, it'd definitively win a prize.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> If someone makes an entry right now, and it's the best entry, it doesn't definitively win a prize. The contest wasn't funded and instantiated.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> They'd have to then seek retroactive funding and those are always controversial proposals.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Or they could make a CCS in advance, which is why that was my suggestion.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> nioc: Did they? cc jberman

yes in the MRL meeting

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Only because luigi doesnt like em. Retro > failed ccs'

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> A retroactive CCS isn't guaranteed. A pre-funded prize pool, or a dedicated CCS, would be.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> nioc: TIL, I have no context on that.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> (well, to guaranteed to the assurances of the CCS)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> generalfund has a lot of $.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> theres 0 chance that an essential ccs does not get fully funded

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Zero

kayabanerve <j​berman:monero.social> I can come back next week with a stronger fleshed out proposed next steps

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Generalfund has 800k worth of funds that were gifted for websites and refunds

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> That's not what the discussion is though

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> If I am told I may be offered a contract for 25k USD, and then before I'm offered the contract, I do all the work, I don't have a claim to 25k USD.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I have to actually have that contract signed before I do the work if I want to do the work knowing I'll have a claim to 25k USD.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> If I do the work, and then I ask for the contract, it depends on if the other end wants to offer a contract *even though I've already done the work*.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks nioc libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20250115#c487078

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Opening the contest, with a funded prize pool, would've been a contract.

<j​effro256:monero.social> Unless we have CCS wallet hack 2: Electric Boogaloo

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> For someone to do a contest entry now, despite the contest not being opened/funded, would be to not have a contract for their work. They'd be doing it with their own risk to later seek retroactive funding.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Sure, retroactive funding for important work may be funded. Then the risk is the work won't be declared important.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> mrl opens their own ccs's and prefunds stuff all the time

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> and adjusts the amounts when necessary.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "all the time" is misspeaking*

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> If we open and fund the contract, that would be defining it as important.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> *open and fund the contest

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Haha

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Been 2yrs sincr generslfund transparency report. Hopefully those monero's are still there

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: That is what the contest was. Pre-funding a prize pool and guaranteeing its distribution to competitors.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Suggesting anyone participate in a contest *which wasn't approved and wasn't funded* is suggesting they do work for retroactive funding *which may or may not be approved* and is what I've been trying to explain.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> We shouldn't bother people about why they would work under a contract but won't work for the potential of retroactive funding.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> One is a legitimate claim which would only be enabled after community discussion. One is subject to community discussion.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> contest is different than a winner-takes-all, which is what we normally do. Either way, if sage thinks theyd be able to win the contest, then they should be speaking up, not just waiting

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> 'People should speak up to participate in contests which don't exist'

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> They are speaking up to inquire about if the contest will actually exist or not.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I never asked that,

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> They shouldn't be bothered to work on the contest *when it doesn't exist*.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> You did in effect. You asked what's stopping them from working on this contest *when the contest doesn't exist*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not even close. You take my statement as to imply that that should start working

0_o

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> My statement was, in effect, that they can take the lead in regards to input on contest or viability

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Hi nioc

bob, language is hard, it is also difficult

better to say what something is as opposed to what it is not

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i have assurances that the transparency report isn't coming this weekend

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> (no /s on the report, just not this weekend)

<j​berman:monero.social> I said in MRL today that I would have a set of actionable next steps for the contest by next week's MRL meeting

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> jberman i forgot this bounty : bounties.monero.social/posts/41/11-…gnificantly-reduce-wallet-sync-time