<3​21bob321:monero.social> Touching grass

<b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> youtu.be/8IYdf1blLzs?si=xwtJJvxw72EywWg8

<b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> youtube.com/shorts/SVo15jYBu4E?feature=share

<b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> youtube.com/shorts/zDJGipGbFZI?feature=share

[CCS Proposals] wikig opened merge request #587: Add moneropen TMA wallet . repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/587

<p​yxmr2025:matrix.org> plowsof

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> yes PyXMR ? are we committing fraud again today?

<p​yxmr2025:matrix.org> ?

<p​yxmr2025:matrix.org> not me.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> what did you ping me for?

<p​yxmr2025:matrix.org> what?

<p​yxmr2025:matrix.org> Do you remove my gitlab ID?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> yes you are banned from the ccs repo

<p​yxmr2025:matrix.org> PyXMR2025?

<p​yxmr2025:matrix.org> This ID?

<p​yxmr2025:matrix.org> is banned?

<h​yolobrika:envs.net> Why?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ai enthusiast is a crime

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> so we have a decentralised telegram monero wallet with local synchronisation(?) using some npm things and the author isn't that great at copy and pasting text / editing the authors name to his own

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> npmjs.com/package/@tonsprotocol/telegram-cloudstorage-wallet "Telegram Webapp CloudStorage Multichain Wallet Solution SDK"

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> " - Utilizes the TMA-specific Webapp CloudStorage to store user private keys and wallet data in a decentralized manner, eliminating single-point-of-trust risk. "

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> oh come on

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> easywallet

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> "eliminating single point of trust RISK" 😆

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> by adding multiple-point-of-failure

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Is that just openmonero in reverse ?

use telegram who now has to give up data when requested :D

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> mhm.png

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i've so many questions...

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> checked all the orga and repo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> my kewbit vibe check tell me it's not kewbit

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but it's very clearly sus

r4v3r23 : i wouldnt rush to add 9936 yet. i was unable to get consistent 'wallet syncing over tor' data (each attempt has wildly different times) and now this comment by MrCyjanek monero-project/monero #9936#issuecomment-2908802327)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm testing now btw

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Just regular sync, not background

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/actions/runs/15248365169 - if somebody wants to test on cake .apk with that patch

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Hm. I ran 4 times, 30mins each

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> syncing from 3m block height

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> master = 47348 (outlier)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 9936 = 79267

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 9936 = 81115

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> master = 81115 (identical to 9336)

hit the ground running

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Hello,

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I have filed a FTBFS and it is receiving no attention.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I understand and respect that the devs have limited capacity, so I'm just humbly remining myself.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> monero-project/monero #9932

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Hello,

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I have filed a FTBFS and it is receiving no attention.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I understand and respect that the devs have limited capacity, so I'm just humbly reminding myself.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> monero-project/monero #9932

well done, dude

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Me?

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Or is that continuation of something I didn't read?

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> (Contexts can get very long and asking once is easier for everyone.)

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Tag people you respond to!.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Tag people you respond to!

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Run `make -j4`

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Cmake doesn't even finish configuring - there is no makefile yet.

plowsof extorting honest devs cc NorrinRadd reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1kw7gu…splatform_app_cancelled_ios_android

🫵🤣

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> will give an answer

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hold on

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> im back on r/monero

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You dont have to run cmake

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> ANd why on earth would I *not* configure the build for my system?

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> And why on earth would I _not_ configure the build for my system?

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> And why on Earth would I _not_ configure the build for my system?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ```

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> git clone github.com/monero-project/monero --depth 1 --recursive

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> cd monero

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> git submodule update --init

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> make -j4

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ```

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> success

nah, the committed Makefile is just wrapping cmake. github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/Makefile

thanks mbll syntheticbird

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'll be honest

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I've tried to build monerod on arch linux several time

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and it's clearly different between bare metal and CI

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> for example, I can't build it on my machine because Sodium.cmake fail miserably to find libsodium

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I can't explain why Arch is being schizo like that

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> RIght, they use some sorts of container on another OS, right?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I just built it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnAI: you built it in a container?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I built it like so ^

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I think it's because of the rolling distro release. you need to have fresh updates to get the same behavior.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I do the exact same and it don't find libsodium

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> My arch is up to date

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'm telling you Arch is schizo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> mine too

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yours is racist

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (Just like you)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 😂

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ive never built monero on arch before now

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> In any case, my issue is that I get and error and can't build.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> They can build, but have a deprec. warning in their build log, which is also an issue.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Both get fixed to updating the cmakelists of the project to exclue CMake < 3.10 versions.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> In any case, my issue is that I get and error and can't build.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> They can build, but have a deprec. warning in their build log, which is also an issue.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Both get fixed to updating the cmakelists of the project to exclude CMake \< 3.10 versions.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I clone repo, installed dependencies as listed in readme, and like magic, it worked

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Have you tried "make"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I have deprecsted warning too, but it builds

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Have you tried imposing a developer mindset?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Have you tried make?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And reading the makefile? Mr developer mindset that doesnt read the makefile??

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I don't need to build it from source right now.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I am preparing a set of projects I'd like to share feedback to and possibly provide some dev cycles.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I just do it to check on issues.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I found some, I will continue when resolved.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No i have not tried imposing a developer mindset. I like to RTFM and if things work by RTFM then its usually a "skill issue" when it doesnt work when i do things "my own way"

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> This is Monero *Workgroup*, not *usergroup*.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I am here to help maintain stuff.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So fix the build issue

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Spitting out deprecation warnings means a failure is imminent.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No it doesnt

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Newer version will eventually come that changes deprecation to build fail.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Have you tried building according to the build instructions yet?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And is your arch system a clean system? A daily driver? A workstation?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Because mine is clean (a few days old), and built on 1st try

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> The build instructions ommit the cmake step, true, but

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> the CI performs a cmake command and has a similar issue:

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> github.com/monero-project/monero/ac…15240535234/job/42860042197?pr=9936

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> It's my daily driver, this installation is there for about 3 months.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They dont omit the step, its defined in the makefile (!!)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> and yes my logs look the same as the ci, but the like the ci, the build succeeds

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Yes, so you have no intention on helping fix this issue, so fuck off kindly.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> issue "fail to build" << it doesnt fail

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Real issue "i dont like the deprecated warning"

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Yes, both should be fixed.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> They get fixed by the same solution.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Updating CMakeLists to not support old CMake.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I support dormouse

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> also this should be a #monero-dev:monero.social discussion

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> we support 20.04 for another year iirc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Whatever cmake is supported there, will remain supported

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> also fuck the Makefile

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> U just mad because your arch is schizo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> every single distro on earth is packaging monero using `cmake`

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> directly

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I never tried cmake directly, shall ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Shall i?

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Thanks, it means more than you think. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one who cares for proper soft ware maintenance.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> But if that were the case, only these douches would 'care' for the projects and they would be long dead.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Thanks, it means more than you think. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one who cares for proper software maintenance.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> But if that were the case, only these douches would 'care' for the projects and they would be long dead.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> OH I DONT KNOW

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Same

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> MAYBE TRY BEFORE ACTING LIKE A JHACKASS

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no douches

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Why? Issue said fail to buikd, ci builds and so does my system

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you have only interacted with ofnrxmr so far

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> please take this discussion to #monero-dev:monero.social

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and mine doesn't

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Skill issue

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx you ofrnxmr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> gf yourself

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and please talk when you have something sensible to say

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Hey, i only entered this convo bcuz _you_ pointed out that it built on ci

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> But linked to a master ci

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And the last release ci was 20 days ago

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Oh wait, i built master too, whoops. Disnt even try release 🤦‍♂️

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> there was a time before we had an arch workflow, come closer Arch OS users

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> (just dont make -gui graphical issues please)

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Normal people procrastinate by watching porn instead of working.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I wanted to masturbate half an hour ago and all I'm doing is filing open source bugs.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> FUCK YOU ALL

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> we understand and fully appreciate your sacrifice

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> every single on of you

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Thank you.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I like this guy here.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway, bored now

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I abandon, dormouse seethe about it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnAI try fucking cmake before talking about the makefile it's literally the same

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof i love you as usual

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> good night

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I hate most GUIs, I'm on a toaster computer.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> NetBSD toaster?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I only know how to RTFM and do as told in the instructions

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I tried OpenBSD, I like it the most of BSDs.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> It can't use my nvidia card properly, not even for computing.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> So I'm stuck with Linux. But boy it's a Stallman-signed thinkpad!

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, I understand.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Support is mostly burk if it's not a mainstream OS., Specially if you use a card that no real opensource support

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> He inscriebd "Happy Hacking"

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> He inscribed "Happy Hacking"

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> I heard AMD is chill.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> So when this new desktop is going to become old, it's gonna receive BSD treatment.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> New desktop isn't finished for one more month, so I'm still on this machine.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> AMD do opensource support so it's just work better.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> And BSD (at least freebsd), do copy Linux DRM stack so it work good on there too

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> `cmake ..` works on master

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Cool, but that doesn't provide a solution.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> A dev must either backport the fix and make an 18.4.1 release, or ship it in whatever they plan next.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> master will eventually be pushed to release iiuc , do you have a line of the warning during arch build for convenience to add to the issue? the link didnt work

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Part of the plan is to ship master in the next release

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> [@dormouse:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@dormouse:matrix.org) it does fail in the release tag :D

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> It **is** in the issue.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> Hence the issue is filed.

<d​ormouse:matrix.org> No shit, sherlock.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It does NOT fail on the release branch

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Aka this has already been fixed

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thx. Have a njce day, watson

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> can close your issue now