<aerxus:matrix.org> Hi, we are two french guys in tech working on a start up that will create a new era for monero for two reasons:

<aerxus:matrix.org> -by helping it stay legal in E.U through legal loopholes we found.

<aerxus:matrix.org> -We also found a way to make the dream of Monero true: it’s not going to be an asset that people spéculate on but truly a circular economy, exactly like the original founders imagined it. [... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/ntbIjNMKa0JfUVFw ]

<syntheticbird> lot of ai bots these days

<syntheticbird> plowsof

<syntheticbird> mind cleaning

<hbs:matrix.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: The CEO is quite busy these days, maybe a deputy can take you call

<aerxus:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: don't worry it's not ai bots lmao

<syntheticbird> @aerxus:matrix.org: the ai bots is responding to me what should i do chat

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: do you know how i can reach one ?

<hbs:matrix.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: Was just kidding, Monero is fully decentralized, so address the community!

<syntheticbird> from now on every new user needs to have mined a monero block to be accepted

<syntheticbird> * Monero CEO

<syntheticbird> i mean deputy

<plowsof:matrix.org> hes spamming in policy now

<plowsof:matrix.org> dont spam walls of garbage

<aerxus:matrix.org> why are you so mad? we're just trying to help, you're so parasocial

<aerxus:matrix.org> lemme reiterate for everyone to know what were doing

<aerxus:matrix.org> Hi, we are two french guys in tech working on a start up that will create a new era for monero for two reasons:

<aerxus:matrix.org> -by helping it stay legal in E.U through legal loopholes we found.

<aerxus:matrix.org> -We also found a way to make the dream of Monero true: it’s not going to be an asset that people spéculate on but truly a circular economy, exactly like the original founders imagined it. [... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/_P2ajdMKcWs5dlkw ]

<aerxus:matrix.org> if u wanna join the move please feel free to DM us

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: thats what im doing but the moderator keeps on deleting my messages. Y'all need to get rid of this arbitrary tyrant(plowsof) who thinks he can just deletes peoples messages on no basis. He might also be a fed thats scared of monero growing idk. Weird behavior likes this just throws me off. We have a solution for monero why would u behave like this @plowsof:matrix.org

<hbs:matrix.org> Why don't you detail your project instead of just teasing it? Might even consider creating a CCS proposal to have the community finance it to completion.

<plowsof:matrix.org> yes im sure ctrl+v'ing a wall of garbage that says "we are 2 tech bros, drivvel, DM us" in multiple rooms will be received well

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: because of obvious reasons. thats why i need u guys to help me get in touch with someone who actually works on monero and not uselss ppl like @plowsof:matrix.org who just arbitrarly bans messages. We have all the prototypes and documentations regarding our project. We have every proof that our project will work. If u were in my position u wouldnt say that on a public group.

<aerxus:matrix.org> all of you have one thing in common, you all have monero and i can help it become manstream and therefore blow up. why wouldnt you help us. Thats literally in you own interest

then you need to come proper. spamming multiple rooms with a ctrl+v "we are 2 tech bros, vague drivvel, DM us" appears to be casting a wide net to scam

and you are still not getting the the point.

<hbs:matrix.org> Many people in this room and others are working on Monero

<aerxus:matrix.org> ok i think youre right on this @plowsof:matrix.org but try to be smart (and im sure you are) and try to understand the message without just deleting because of the format

there is no message.

<aerxus:matrix.org> because u keep on deleting it $

2 tech bros, drivvel, DM us.

<aerxus:matrix.org> plowsof: 1. we can help monero stay legal in Europe though legal loopholes 2) we can help making monero a real circular economy like the original founders thought of it and not a specualative asset for traders to make money off of it senselessly

<aerxus:matrix.org> this IS the message

<hbs:matrix.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: The is no plan to make it illegal!

<syntheticbird> inb4 monero is doomed because of chat

<aerxus:matrix.org> omg we just gave you literally legal paperwork emanating from the European Central Bank 15mins ago. If the European Cenrtal Bank is not a reliable source, what is ? You maybe ? silly man

I missed the paperwork

I am on irc so nothing gets deleted

ive seen enough of the "we" already

<aerxus:matrix.org> nioc: its on the policy group but ima dm it to you

<aerxus:matrix.org> nioc: Article 79: ban on anonymous accounts and "anonymity-enhancing documents"

<aerxus:matrix.org> “Credit institutions, financial institutions and crypto-asset service providers are prohibited from holding anonymous bank and payment accounts, anonymous passbooks, anonymous vaults or crypto-assets, as well as any other account that permits the anonymization of the account holder or the increased anonymization or authentication of transactions, including through coins enhancing anonymity.'

<aerxus:matrix.org> — Article 79(1) of Regulation (EU) 2024/1624

<aerxus:matrix.org> "Privacy coins are crypto-assets that use advanced cryptographic techniques and transaction offloading tools to make transactions untraceable and increase user anonymity."[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/rL3rjdMKQU01S2VS ]

I think most here are already aware of that

<aerxus:matrix.org> here you go nioc

<aerxus:matrix.org> ok so we have a way to keep it legal through a loophole and a way of making monero mainstream and making it a true circular economy (thus making the value of monero go upwards)

<aerxus:matrix.org> nioc: so why do i keep getting backlash saying this type of things

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: ....

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @aerxus:matrix.org: Stop teasing me

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I have a way to turn shit into pudding, dm me for more info

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: just dmed you

<syntheticbird> this could finally solve world hunger

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> It will

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I just sent you the pamphlet with more info

because it has been discussed before and some are quite knowledgeable about the EU stuff

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> "we have a way to keep it legal"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> How many times r u going to say this

<aerxus:matrix.org> i just joined nioc and frankly i dont think most of the ppl here are good people, they are prolly frustrated incels who dont understand the importance of privacy coins in the era were going towards

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> This is like "dontasktoask" but worse

<syntheticbird> @syntheticbird: CHECK

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> are you 12?

how to win friends and influence people :D

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Either explain this "legal loophole" or stip wasting everyones time

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Stop*

<syntheticbird> I think the "dont." is appropriate here > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> This is like "dontasktoask" but worse

<syntheticbird> >talk like an ai

<syntheticbird> > doesn't know the space it just arrived in

<syntheticbird> >senseless teasing with vague shit

<syntheticbird> >nothing substantial to say

<syntheticbird> >predictable af

where am I and how did I get here?

<syntheticbird> i swear this guy is a bo

<aerxus:matrix.org> nioc: i mean im just saying i can make monero find its true purpose and make yall moneros explode and the responses im getting are insults, trolling or just misinformed people trying to make me seem like a liar. How would you act if u were in my position?

<syntheticbird> @aerxus:matrix.org: EL MESSIAH

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> gpt-2.0 is still sorting out the finer details > <@syntheticbird> >nothing substantial to say

<rucknium> @aerxus:matrix.org: Wait for more people to respond in #monero-policy:monero.social

<aerxus:matrix.org> 🤣🤣🤣let's see whos gonna laugh on the long run

first I would find out what other people knew and what there perspective was

*their

<syntheticbird> @rucknium: MODS. RIP THE GPU OUT OF THIS BOT AND GIVE IT TO FEED TO THE META DATACENTER LURKING IN THE WOODS

then you would have some idea how to communicate your idea

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> luigi1111 hi, did you talk to your employee yet? thanks.

<hooftly:matrix.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: What is its true purpose?

<rucknium> You're getting dismissive responses because 1) you started out not knowing Monero's decentralized structure, 2) You claim Monero will be illegal in the EU, but your quoted regulations do not directly affect individuals and most businesses AFAIK, 3) You say you have non-disclosure agreements, which is very suspicious.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> luigi1111 even though he did read all that last night, he hasn't emailed or talked to me, not even once.

<syntheticbird> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: meds. luigi1111 talked to you

<syntheticbird> i know i am luigi1111

<syntheticbird> no i won't respond any further to your inquiry

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird: shut your stupid face now.

<syntheticbird> please go to PR department

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> adults are talking.

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: the true purpose of monero is to make it a real private currency, a sort of digital cash, an untraceable cash. Now the problem is no one has found a way to make it a real circular economy, so its a not a REAL digital cash like the originals founders thought of it

<syntheticbird> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: adults doesn't include senile you know that right

<hooftly:matrix.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: Circulat economy is not the issue

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird: do you not see how contradictory your own sentence is? 😂

<syntheticbird> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: my apologies, my sentence do convey that i assumed you had self-awareness, which you don't.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird: you are retarded. 😂

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: it is. if ur bakery doesnt accept monero or doesnt knwo what it means. its a problem for me. how do you plan on exchanging every good for monero if ppl are not aware of it and it doesnt just circulate. Monero needs to be like a real FIAT currency but the cash and untraceable version

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: have you ever visited this website called monerica.com by chance? 🤔

<hooftly:matrix.org> That requires liquidity not a circular economy

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> or... any dnm? 🤔

<hooftly:matrix.org> 🐱

<aerxus:matrix.org> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: yeah but its not mainstream, u can exchange stuff but not every good on this earth

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: your mom is mainstream.

<syntheticbird> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: COPS. Rip this peasant's keyboard and Send Him To The Torture Chamber TO GET TORTURED OUT FOR QUESTIONING

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: liquidity emanates from circular economies.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird: I love you.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird:monero.social girl, when am I meeting you in person, hm?

<hooftly:matrix.org> Does it? Or do they form because liquidity exists?

<aerxus:matrix.org> good catch, like i just said : they are intertwined principles

<aerxus:matrix.org> tahts basic economics

<hooftly:matrix.org> You are putting the cart before the horse tho

<syntheticbird> >good catch

<syntheticbird> please ban this bot

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: I'll put my horse before your cart. How's that, cute pie? 😘

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Which bot

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Do NPCs count as bots too

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: both

<hooftly:matrix.org> If you want to focus on regulations the circular economy is the last place to focus

<aerxus:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: he still thinks i am one🤣🤣🤣

<syntheticbird> hooftly and aerxus

<hooftly:matrix.org> Im a bot?

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird: I am a bot.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @aerxus:matrix.org: No, he thinks your idea was brainstormed by freegpt 1.0

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: We all are bots.

<syntheticbird> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: that's the mindset

<hooftly:matrix.org> like the one time i choose to talk... fuck sakes

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: actually a significant portion of his brain neural activity is contained inside a silicium die

<syntheticbird> but i guess that also count as brainstorming

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway_ aesxus, u going to give details

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: but if we find a way of making people exchange every good for monero. like just imagine this: when you walk into a grocery, u buy a bottle of water and you pay for it in FIAT because there is "trust" in this mean of exchange (even though its paper backed by paper) and then you can dispose freely of you [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/7aG7jtMKWW14bGtG ]

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @aerxus:matrix.org: i think you're 12

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: you just stole my words

<syntheticbird> I was writing this exact sentence character to character

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird: ok zoomer.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ignore rotten. He's missing context bcuz he has me on ignore

<syntheticbird> i already ignore him but thx for the advice

<hbs:matrix.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: Since you are in France, article 150 VH of the CGI states that above 305 EUR of yearly sale of cryptocurrencies you must declare your sales, how do you envision the compatibility of your offer with that law?

<syntheticbird> @hbs:matrix.org: 305? i thought this was 300

<syntheticbird> what a win

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird: breaking the law, huh?

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: how would they know? everything in monero is crypted

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> silly kitty.

<hbs:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000038612228

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: and i never said i would base it in france

<hbs:matrix.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: nul n'est censé ignoer la loi

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: oh so cute you did you're little perplexity reseach, sooo cute

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: ignorer°

<syntheticbird> @hbs:matrix.org: thx

<aerxus:matrix.org> yh thats what i thought @hbs:matrix.org

<syntheticbird> @aerxus:matrix.org: the bot just fried out

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: are you stupid?

<hooftly:matrix.org> Bro

<aerxus:matrix.org> i offer solutions and ur just talking about smn mom and trolling, who's really stupid? 🤣🤣

<syntheticbird> QUICK QUICK AERXUS HOOFTLY HASN'T TALKED ENOUGH SWITCH YOUR KEYBOARD SWITCH YOUR KEYBOARD

<aerxus:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: yeah dream abt me ahaha

<hooftly:matrix.org> Google hooftly thats me cut the shit Im a real boy

<hooftly:matrix.org> Aexus is spacekitty

<hooftly:matrix.org> Pretty obvious

<hooftly:matrix.org> Fuck sakes

<aerxus:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: is just the only normal person in this chat ( i might be wronfg)

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: You, clearly.

<aerxus:matrix.org> whatever helps u sleep at night

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @aerxus:matrix.org: Okay, darling. ❤️💋

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx have you seen this guy already in read receipts? > <@hooftly:matrix.org> Google hooftly thats me cut the shit Im a real boy

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Hooftly? Ya

<hooftly:matrix.org> you dont believe me?

<hooftly:matrix.org> Lulz

<aerxus:matrix.org> u really need validation from these 2 trolls > <@hooftly:matrix.org> Google hooftly thats me cut the shit Im a real boy

<aerxus:matrix.org> thats actually sad

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Alright

<syntheticbird> my apologies @hooftly:matrix.org

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Usually sometime around 2am UTC when spacekitty would ping them

<syntheticbird> sorry for the toxicity, since you were talking only to him, i thought you could be some random alt to give the impression he can spit his part

<syntheticbird> wrong conclusion

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @aerxus:matrix.org: Which 2 trolls?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Theres like 5 here

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: at this hour of the day, during this day of the week

<syntheticbird> we're far from the ATH

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Aerxus, ofrn, syn, shitwheel, hooftly

<hooftly:matrix.org> I knew her from a while back and I joined the the community a month ago and she said hey. Just wanted to talk to some people about a version of an atomic swap protocol I built but i got called a Defi loser so I just been silent

<syntheticbird> @hooftly:matrix.org: a defi loser

<syntheticbird> in which channel?

<hooftly:matrix.org> This one I think I dunno

<syntheticbird> you have a repo i'm curious

<hooftly:matrix.org> i had a failing defi project a few years ago and they laid into me for it

<aerxus:matrix.org> so you really are insecure

<aerxus:matrix.org> its funny how i can see through yall

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @hooftly:matrix.org: By who? Loo

<hooftly:matrix.org> Id have to search the chat. It was also 2 am and I was half asleep

<syntheticbird> @aerxus:matrix.org: kewbit

<syntheticbird> you are as beautiful as the day i lost you

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: Honestly sounds like him

<syntheticbird> you can't eternally live out of 75k$

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I forgot he existed, but this is slop marketing sounded familiar

how did I miss the key, circular economy :D

<hbs:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Probably a French as advertised, doing the typical writing errors French people do when writing English.

<321bob321> Wei wei

Busy day

Yeah probably the workaround was to keep it all "crypted" and not declare lol. For legit mom&pop businesses

Which will receive 100x retribution if they mess with taxes compared to big companies