<321bob321> They want a kickback for signing people up

<imprevisto:matrix.org> this is definitely the most insane very clear demand

<ohchase:envs.net> > <@4rkal> I’m not sure i get the question. Yes some exchanges allow you to add an additional partner fee

<ohchase:envs.net> Sorry, I know there is a lot of aggregators and they all kinda say there is no additional fee when using them but I then became curious if that's absolutely true because of some of the partner exchanges having variable fee specifications and how that interacts with the margins. I see some aggregators provide a protection mecha [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/p_WPq9QKVkxGZkgt ]

Meeting in 1hr38 mins monero-project/meta #1314

<4rkal> @ohchase:envs.net: We don’t add any additional fees to our users. Also the insurance guarantee in our case is provided by the exchanges themselves but held by us.

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> Why does the monero podcast start at the same time as the meeting ? 😭

Will likely finish before the price report begins

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @lm:matrix.baermail.fr: The podcast is like 5hrs long

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> to not overlap, we'd have to do the meeting at 5am utc or 11pm utc

meeting time monero-project/meta #1314

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> 👋

<redsh4de:matrix.org> 👋

<michael> Hello.

greetings !

<ohchase:envs.net> 👋

Ruckniums network scan tool : moneronet.info 👀 boog900 shared in the last MRL meeting an update to the ban list @ Boog900/monero-ban-list #10 meeting logs: monero-project/meta #1310

how is site coming along redsh4de? 👋

<redsh4de:matrix.org> paragraphs incoming from me

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Soo, over the past 2 weeks, worked on adding three new pages to the website, some docs about how to add/modify/extend relevant content and use some utilities i made, and general improvements in various areas of the codebase - with a focus on making CSS more compact, weighing out a potential migration for SCSS due to it's support for nesting and general features that improve maintainability

<redsh4de:matrix.org> First, what's new since the last update

<redsh4de:matrix.org> 1. "What is Monero?" page at beta.monerodevs.org/get-started/what-is-monero

<redsh4de:matrix.org> The design is meant to follow a sectioned pitch deck style that tells a kind of a story (problem -> solution -> use cases), with a call to action section leading the user to either download a wallet or purchase Monero.

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Thought it also fitting to add a Learn More section with Dr. Daniel Kim's presentation about Monero (with subtitle options), as i think it really covers most questions people might have about what Monero is and why it matters. As always, all text on the current page can be considered a placeholder and is only for presentation purposes

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/kseRprcJsuNGyedaoGcbYydP.png (image.png)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> 2. Exchanges page with eyecandy! beta.monerodevs.org/get-started/exchanges

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Added a responsive exchanges page, with the options organized as such: Decentralized Exchanges, Aggregators, and CEXes - effectively sorted in a descending order by which ones are the most optimal for privacy.

<redsh4de:matrix.org> To avoid overwhelming users, made a filter sidebar/drawer to help newcomers quickly highlight the options that fit their situation - hopefully solving the common complaint that its difficult to buy Monero, which stems more from a bad presentation and discoverability of options rather than a lack of them[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/joOFsNQKMWd6ajR3 ]

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Desktop view:

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/MUwFDEbGPOkakiNpYJoOBdUR.png (image.png)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Mobile view:

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/AHrYnLgavROuzCKSRwwFQwNq.png (image.png)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> 3. Merchants at beta.monerodevs.org/get-started/merchants

<redsh4de:matrix.org> List of merchant directories for now - four options listed as of today

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/gjzTcMzbvopdLfapYCLVlpdY.png (image.png)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Looks good and loads real fast

nice progress redsh4de 💪images brought to us by the power of DataHoarders bridge. proposals currently open for funding -> ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required

has GUPAXX made the migration to the gupax-io repo? github.com/gupax-io/gupax

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> plowsof: Gupax.io is up,

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> Codebase is merged, but I want to finish some code refactor before releasing gupax v2

i can share a small update about my attempt at tweaking some things on the CCS backend after feedback. i should be able to put a testnet instance showing unconfirmed amounts next week

meow

aot of small tweaks needed that prevented ccs from seeing pool transactions at all - hidden in the depths of php

other requests such as 'red banner to tell people that overfunding likely wont go to the proposer*) ... and a KISS "external funding" - where the FR page would just link people to an external fund raiser, this was requested a while ago, might not be so useful now but its a possibility

nice lm 💪 pumping the p2pool hashrate : blocks.p2pool.observer/pools

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> Very impressed @redsh4de:matrix.org !

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> Did you planned for localization support ?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @lm:matrix.baermail.fr: Yes

<redsh4de:matrix.org> planned? ;)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> already live

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Go check out the rtl arabic version

<redsh4de:matrix.org> beta.monerodevs.org/ar

i hear the blockscaling wars may have ended? "(see MRL meetings) - github.com/ArticMine/Monero-Documents "

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Nope

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Our twitter friends are unhappy

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> I see it now, perfect !

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @lm:matrix.baermail.fr: wrote a lot of utilities to simplify localization for strings, more info about how it all works here: github.com/redsh4de/monero-site/blo…ow-to-add-localization-to-a-page.md

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: "After the recent backlash against a hard cap on the block size, it seems like the Monero developers have decided to cripple the scaling factors instead."

these monero developers sound really mean if true!

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Theyre racist bigots

so the people who are of the opinion that monero is going to be crippled are aware of the current technical limitations that put caps on sizes of certain things

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> So you're a racist too? Noted.

they were promised infinite block size

😭

Noted and *ignored*

website funding ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/redsh4de-getmonero-redesign.html

general fund has donated

<redsh4de:matrix.org> nioc: Been spending a lot of time on the project, if anyone would like to support my work, do consider contributing <3

oh ' should the date displayed on the funding required page - be the date which it was put to funding ' to stop teitter from shaming us

<redsh4de:matrix.org> +1

its currently the date at which the porposer placed there to say 'i will begin from this date or intend to'

put all the dates

yes

anything else anyone would like to mention?

News: [Monero Observer](monero.observer) - [Revuo Monero](revuo-xmr.com) - [This Week In Monero](cyphergoat.com/this-week-in-monero) (Oberver still on his 2nd break in 4 years)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> plowsof: in the list of proposals, i think the date shown must be the one on which the proposal went live

<redsh4de:matrix.org> same thing in the proposal view, with the proposal creation date being shown under it like a secondary item

<redsh4de:matrix.org> or in the body, like "Proposal created on XYZ"

yep , we can probably show all the dates clearly, and they can be ordered on the publish date - rather than the 'i intend to begin @' date

any feedback on the open ccs ideas?

a. [39C3 Support](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/622)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> supporting a presence as 39C3 is very +EV imo, im for it. planning to visit the congress myself

<redsh4de:matrix.org> s/as/at

b. [Sneedlewoods-03_part-time_dev_work-Q1-26](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/634)

has been brought up in no-wallet-left-behind meetings with positive feedback

++1

<redsh4de:matrix.org> +1

thanks for feedback. and speaking of events:

d. Events workgroup - [MoneroKon 2026](monerokon.org) - a venue for 2026 is still being discussed

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> 27-30 december is very close, is it an issue to have it funded after the event ? > <plowsof> a. [39C3 Support](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/622)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Usually ppl put the date as the current date that they opened entered the idea stage > <plowsof> yep , we can probably show all the dates clearly, and they can be ordered on the publish date - rather than the 'i intend to begin @' date

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> It should probably be changed to match the merge date

#monero-events to follow along i i hear the bitcoin film festival are open to sharing the venue in Warsaw

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> can also maybe add extra fields for idea -> funding -> wip

I believe questions were brought up last meeting about the 39C3 proposal. Were they addressed?

most discussion happened here libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20251122#c615861

if they are addresses people can give a thumbs up otherwise no

" although with C3 getting close, would be nice to get this approved or denied so we can know whether to go elsewhere for money if needed"

"that said, given the slow donations of current proposals in FR I don't foresee it getting funded quickly even if merged"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof: this is my immediate thought

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> They could always sed 2025 2026 😐

any more feedbacks

because h. [FCMP++ Stressnet](github.com/seraphis-migration) stressnet.p2pool.observer

- "Ruckniums 1.4 release is using 107gb of ram compared to 1.5-prerelease using 14gb" via ofrnxmr

and an upcoming monero core 18.4.5 release

🥶

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> 🤧

this is the last meeting of 2025 give yourselves a pat on the back please

get well soon lm 🔥 🙌

any other business before i freeze, i'd like to put an open end here for humanitarian reasons and thank everyone for joining

I have not seen any recent communication from the 39C3 proposal and doesn't seem like they are here today

pls continue

<michael> Dankon very much for a good meeting and great moderation.

<weshxtra:matrix.org> hi

<lm:matrix.baermail.fr> nohello.net

<weshxtra:matrix.org> i discovered monero i like its purpose

<torir:matrix.org> #monero:monero.social is the main room for Monero dicussion.