<kiersten5821:matrix.org> you can buy those > <@jpk68:matrix.org> Requiring phone number verification to contribute to an anonymity-focused project is perhaps not very ideal

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> and i never been asked for that

<jpk68:matrix.org> GitHub requires a phone number before contacting support now

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> i have like 6 github account half created on vpn never dropping vpn and it has never asked me for a phone number

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> my guess is ungoogled chromium is doing it

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> i used both chrome and firefox

<jpk68:matrix.org> Tried on other ones, too

<jpk68:matrix.org> and they won't respond to my emails

<jpk68:matrix.org> Did you make the GH accounts recently? As in, less than a year ago?

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> one yes

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> rest older than 1y

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> the new one is 3 mo old

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> no problems yet

<jpk68:matrix.org> Maybe I'm just unlucky then :P

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> are you using resi proxies

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> it might be flagged

<jpk68:matrix.org> Nope

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> i have no idea why you are having issues then

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> all i can think of is ungoogled chromium

<jpk68:matrix.org> Because Microsoft is stupid

<jpk68:matrix.org> I appreciate your help though :)

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> what happens if you buy a phone verification

<jpk68:matrix.org> But this is what I'm trying to say about GitHub - it's not a good situation, especially for a project like this one

<jpk68:matrix.org> @kiersten5821:matrix.org: It works fine. They just respond with the exact same templated email, exactly three hours after I open a support ticket

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: agree, i saw jackie's backup didn't have any of the pr or issues ported either

<jpk68:matrix.org> It's been like a month at this point and I can't talk to an actual human

<antersir66:matrix.org> When will Monroe join the fight against quantum computer algorithms?

<antersir66:matrix.org> 🤔

<rbrunner7> Who or what is Monroe?

<elongated:matrix.org> @rbrunner7: Brother of moonro

<rbrunner7> github.com/jeffro256/carrot/blob/ma…address-conditional-forward-secrecy

<rbrunner7> monero-project/research-lab #151

[CCS Proposals] plowsoff opened merge request #659: dangerousfreedom: repurpose 26.25 xmr repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/659

[css-proposals] plowsofff opened pull request #659: dangerousfreedom: repurpose 26.25 xmr

> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/659

xmr-pr broke a pinky promise? :-O

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Jackie's Repo (repo.openenet.cn) is deployed on an LCPI-H616 development board, with 512MB of RAM (excluding ZRAM and swap), a MariaDB database, and 64GB of reliable storage. Nginx is adopted for reverse proxy, and public network access is achieved through Cloudflare Tunnel. Tor deployment is planned for the follow-up [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/5cr5k_QKX2N1Z281 ]

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Within the monero-project backup scope, only the code repositories are preserved (issues and pull requests are excluded), while CI/CD pipelines and user registration functionality are disabled.

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Issues and pull requests (PRs) can be converted into logs via GitHub Actions and stored under the meta directory; these logs will be synchronized automatically when the meta directory is synced.

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> plowsof User registration will be disabled in approximately 72 hours (10:00 UTC, April 1, 2026). Relevant personnel are requested to complete registration as soon as possible, as it may be required for subsequent use.

<syntheticbird> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/neLqvMJOUDVUfojIWBpSEcwK.png (image.png)

<syntheticbird> oh hell yeah long live china gfw

<syntheticbird> (that sounds like a critics, its not, im just joking. dont mind me)

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @syntheticbird: sorry, I will add proxy after 3 days

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> repo.openenet.cn/monero-project

<mrsamsepiol:matrix.org> Hello guys, I hope this is the right channel to raise a question. I’m wondering how I would be able to integrate Monero into buying at shops locally. Since it takes up to 2 minutes to verify a payment. I’ve figured that most people use the 0 verification method, where the backend will track in incoming payment, which then [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/p-XnlPQKSmh0ZFpJ ]

<321bob321> @rbrunner7: monroe.com.au

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @mrsamsepiol:matrix.org: go to matrix.to/#/#monero-support:monero.social ?

<ofrnxmr> #monero-community-dev:monero.social **

<ofrnxmr> well, depends on the question. If its "how to accept monero at my shop" then#monero:monero.social . If its "need help to develop this program" then #monero-community-dev:monero.social

<jpk68:matrix.org> Just use Merchant Mode™ in the GUI

<ofrnxmr> Or bitcoin.com's merchant thing, or bitrequest.io, or btcpayserver, or bitcart.ai

<0xdosto:matrix.org> well, hello beautiful. I am investigating stressnet + FCMP++ integration work. Where can look at the open tasks? (To submit CCS eventually)

<plowsof:matrix.org> hello fyodor, how is your investigation going so far?

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> re:User registration will be disabled in approximately 72 hours (10:00 UTC, April 1, 2026). Relevant personnel are requested to complete registration as soon as possible, as it may be required for subsequent use.

<jpk68:matrix.org> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: It looks like the ccs-proposals mirror is currently failing

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: yeah,proxy can;t use

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Why?

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> emm,server in china

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> can't connect repo.getmonero.org

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I try to use wg

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i dont think repo.getmonero is blocking, its probably the great firewall?

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.or…11184a1185712038276760222564352.png (image.png)

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: yeah,and isp

<jpk68:matrix.org> What does that have to do with a proxy?

<jpk68:matrix.org> Also, it seems the CCS frontend/backend repos synced just fine

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> tor,cf,are very slow or can't use in china

<plowsof:matrix.org> @0xdosto:matrix.org: would be wise to join #monero-stressnet:monero.social (if not already github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/issues ) and check no wallet left behind / monero research lab meetings 👍️

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> And why would u host this from home instead of on an accesible vps

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I run a server in usa make a vpn

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> And why would u host this from home instead of on an accesible vps

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Don't you think VPS is easily attacked

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Better if my vps gets attacked than if my home internet does

<syntheticbird> vps aren't free

<syntheticbird> * he said he is using cloudflare for front-facing

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: They are if they are a gift 🧠

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I'm sorry to say it to you like this, clearing up a misconception from a year ago, the librejovps wasn't sponsored.

<syntheticbird> by kyun.host.

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: but I buy vps to make vpn

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I can't trust VPS providers

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: china isp are not give us ip,they use nat

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I use 4usd to by a usa vps > <@syntheticbird> vps aren't free

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: 2h2g 50Mbps

[CCS Proposals] Mondetta opened merge request #660: monero.eco 2025-2026 compensation repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/660

[css-proposals] mondetta opened pull request #660: monero.eco 2025-2026 compensation

> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/660

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> 6tpr5ewpc4kevnm76i2bzxori3ofi46phqghkb5736r5wb7gq47yh3yd.onion

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.or…c0fb99b8448a2038301991800668160.png (image.png)

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> tor is ok now

<0xdosto:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Slow, but steady!

<0xdosto:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Thanks. Checking/joining now

[meta] PyXMR2025 opened issue #1362: Monero Repository Mirror Public Notice

> monero-project/meta #1362

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org any reason for using gitea instead of forgejo?

<user2570:unredacted.org> Forgejo good

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: no

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: will change to Forgejo

<jpk68:matrix.org> Is the matter of having core-run mirrors something we could/should bring up at a research meeting?

<jpk68:matrix.org> @syntheticbird:monero.social ^

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: core?

<jpk68:matrix.org> The core team, yes

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Are they run mirrors?

<syntheticbird> @jpk68:matrix.org: idk, you can ask rucknium to add this topic in the meta issue for the next MRL meeting

<jpk68:matrix.org> If someone else is running the mirrors they wouldn't really be considered 'official', would they

<syntheticbird> ask on github

<jpk68:matrix.org> No

<jpk68:matrix.org> Sure, will do. I can't ask on GH ;)

<jpk68:matrix.org> Is this something you would be willing to advocate for? Just wondering, since you seemed to be in support of it

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> emm.look "Community" > <@jpk68:matrix.org> If someone else is running the mirrors they wouldn't really be considered 'official', would they

<jpk68:matrix.org> Yes, but my point is that it would be useful to have official mirrors for submitting PRs

<jpk68:matrix.org> Backups are nice to have, but it's not like they're an actual development space

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: The core team would never run something like this. Just look at what's on GitLab—do they have any official mirrors?

<jpk68:matrix.org> Dude, my whole point is asking them if they would be willing to do so. No, there aren't mirrors at the moment

<jpk68:matrix.org> If they did, why would I be asking? :)

<jpk68:matrix.org> Also, we are already covered in terms of backups. According to selsta, core already uses backup solutions and whatnot from some company

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: uh.ok, you can @ selsta or luigi on irc

remember the mirroring thing that used githubs bandwidth quote in a day because the now privated archive was being mirrored by something yeah

quota*

another place for submitting PRs isn't ideal, it does not have our CI suite there and discussion would be split between platforms

but I also see your issue with account getting deleted

<jpk68:matrix.org> Yes, and I am not the only one :)

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> plowsof: Sure, which tool was it?

<jpk68:matrix.org> Clearly it would require a huge amount of time/effort, but would it not be worth looking into moving to self-hosted eventually?

<jpk68:matrix.org> Tor project was forced to do that, and it has apparently worked decently well

<jpk68:matrix.org> I'm not suggesting that this happens now, of course. Just something to consider perhaps

ah i think LFS is unrelated, but it was here libera.monerologs.net/monero-dev/20260303#c659327

i self host a gitlab runner that checks if people didnt end a file wiht a new line on the ccs repo if that inspires anyone

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> plowsof: yeah,3/day-->1-2GB/1

<jpk68:matrix.org> plowsof: A bold leap towards the paragon of freedom that is not being forced to deal with Microslop

<user2570:unredacted.org> Hopefully we can migrate the "official" repo to codeberg.org or somewhere esle with more privacy and less censorship > <@jpk68:matrix.org> If someone else is running the mirrors they wouldn't really be considered 'official', would they

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> plowsof: github.com/monero-project/guix how big

<jpk68:matrix.org> @user2570:unredacted.org: Self-hosted would be better, but even that would be an improvement

i also tried mirroring the dependencies repos but gave up at boost (iirc)

<jpk68:matrix.org> IIRC, Wownero moved to GitLab a while ago, and a bunch of Monero people already have accounts on Codeberg

memory blurry but i had gitea has an auto mirror thing which didnt like chains of submodules

<jpk68:matrix.org> *Codeberg, not GitLab

jackie i dont know about the guix repo sorry

<user2570:unredacted.org> plowsow did I do something wrong that could cause this parser pipeline to fail?

<user2570:unredacted.org> repo.getmonero.org/mondetta/ccs-proposals/-/pipelines/1211

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> plowsof: don't worry. need I backup this?

we already tried to move to gitlab back when microsoft bought github

the overall experience was worse and we decided against it

i run it manually because its sus letting the world run things on my home machine :D

<syntheticbird> selsta but what about forgejo

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> selsta: yeah.too big.and ci need dev

<syntheticbird> i'm sure this will be different this time

<syntheticbird> right?

<jpk68:matrix.org> selsta: Perhaps Forgejo is worth a shot?

Validation error: File must end with a newline character

<syntheticbird> incredible title lmfao

<jpk68:matrix.org> I don't really see anyone disagreeing with this in principle, just that it would take a fair bit of time/effort

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> plowsof: and me?

letting the internet run code on machines you are responsible + pay for is quite the ask

reg self hosted runners

<jpk68:matrix.org> selsta: Discussion looks very active :)

<syntheticbird> two 8 cores 32GB dedicated servers are pocket money for the GF without wanting to sound like money shouldn't be accounted responsibly

<user2570:unredacted.org> plowsof: what's the correct way to fix the proposal?

<jpk68:matrix.org> Didn't binaryFate mention that we already pay for increased GH bandwidth

<syntheticbird> The other users triggering the CI tho, yes thats a concern

we run ubuntu 16.04 here, im certain if we had self hosted runners people would do evil things to us

<syntheticbird> incredible maintenance

<syntheticbird> with no updates like this maybe we deserve it

<jpk68:matrix.org> Why doesn't anyone just ban the spammers in the GitLab issues

<plowsof:matrix.org> dockerised so you just turn it on and off again until the hacker gets bored i think

<plowsof:matrix.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: gitlab has millions of accounts, many every second

GitHub CI is the main blocker for moving to something like Forgejo

<jpk68:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Approved signup like the GitLab has currently?

i try to clean things up repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/issues

<plowsof:matrix.org> IF the email gets to you then you self approve otherwise its manual, so we shuld move to manual approval flat out tbh, so many spam accounts

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> selsta: yeah.

there are currently 5,073,500 users on the gitlab

<syntheticbird> I'm sorry, i'm half of the users

<syntheticbird> i just woke up and decided to register 2.5 million time

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @syntheticbird: me too

<jpk68:matrix.org> @rucknium:monero.social Would you be willing to add this to the meeting agenda?

a warm welcome to our newest user repo.getmonero.org/bigbamboo

<jpk68:matrix.org> Wrong channel, yikes :(

<syntheticbird> LMAO

<syntheticbird> well at least its a game. Some bot made a repo on librejo to store cheese pizza.

i _think_ its a search engine optimisation trick - as your url appears linked by getmonero

<syntheticbird> happened only once fortunately

in the past core maintained buildbot but that was a bit of a disaster, with build failing constantly and no quick way to fix

<user2570:unredacted.org> Can you please help me to fix the issue? > <plowsof> Validation error: File must end with a newline character

<user2570:unredacted.org> Should I edit the file and create a new merge request?

<user2570:unredacted.org> Or is there a easier way?

<syntheticbird> CI/CD have progressed considerably in 6 years. Gitea/Forgejo actions have become a suitable replacement for Github CI nowadays.

<jpk68:matrix.org> selsta: Do you think you/others would be willing to look into this? Just asking :)

<jpk68:matrix.org> I think it would be worthwhile

linux CI would work, macOS / Windows runners would be more difficult

<syntheticbird> For me the primary question is, if someone or some people, are willing to setup a full ass Forgejo/CI setup, would core be willin to migrate development to it.

with how inactive core is I don't think it's realistic

<syntheticbird> afaik people have had success with projects like docker-windows and docker-macos

<syntheticbird> ARM CI however?

we are also getting hammered with Hackerone reports thanks to AI so I don't have time to even think about moving away from GitHub

<syntheticbird> i don't think we will see an arm macOS CI anytime soon

<syntheticbird> fair

<syntheticbird> can you share some slop you receive

it has gotten better recently sadly

so you can't even quickly detect if it's slop or not

<syntheticbird> the imitation game

<plowsof:matrix.org> for mac os we can just get plowsof to buy one and leave his machine on 24/7

<jpk68:matrix.org> Buy a MacBook Neo for $600

<syntheticbird> Buy an iphone farm

<jpk68:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: One of these things? > cnn.com/style/vietnam-farms-jack-latham-beggars-honey

<syntheticbird> yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

<syntheticbird> that's the one

<jpk68:matrix.org> You can mine on them when they're not running actions :)

<jpk68:matrix.org> selsta: RIP

i doubt anyone would be willing to let me mine on hardware i'd purchased with the CCS while not in use ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/gingeropolous_zenith_storage.html XD

<syntheticbird> Datahoarder. Can irc users sees answer with the new bridge?

it does a short quote where possible, yes

or ping if recent enough

<syntheticbird> i see thx

if the server is IRCv3 compliant with message tags it makes an actual reply

if not (like libera) it does the short quotes

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> No > <@pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> don't worry. need I backup this?

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> what is guix

<jpk68:matrix.org> Package manager

20:53:04 <br-m> <syntheticbird> Datahoarder. Can irc users sees answer with the new bridge?

^ I just got this push notification, thanks matrix for delays

see an example reply irc.gammaspectra.live/7b2d09cc225ff1bd/image.png

DataHoarder: libera.chat/news/new-and-upcoming-features-3

what would be missing from libera?

msgid is great, I have a hack to generate one across servers :D

> +draft/reply

this is what is needed

ok they are "considering" it

well I raised this years ago

they are adding the "base"

the rest of features are built on top of that

message-tags is what allows most of the extensions for clients

oh yeah selsta I see the bot already is using msgid from libera :D

instead of the self-generated ones for db insertions

typing is already being handled too, but almost no clients use it

lemme see if my puppet does it

irccloud supports typing

yeah I just saw your messages lol

on the debug log

type for a while, I want to see what happens on matrix side

mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/fiePJCQgbBuSrJKbWRYipktX.png (image.png)

amazing, it works fine

nice lol

so as reply/react features get enabled the bot and puppets will autorequest their support

multiline messages are also bundled in "one" etc.

what's stopping the new bridge being deployed in all channels? i forgot the details

nothing, except I'm running it on my main servers and is still in "testing" :D

preferably it'd run on some dedicated vm or so for it, and closer to monero.social server

plus the ircv6 puppet allocation is still not finished, mainly due to lazy. it's supposed to have a /64 of ipv6 and allocate specific ones per puppet user on irc as users create some

editing messages is still not replicated, I am trying to build a minimum diff to send short "replacement" patterns for typos

say like, ad -> and

or s/relace/replace/

and only fallback to the "big" edit when large edits are done

also the code is hideous currently. That I'd like to cleanup more

did you fork it from an existing bridge?

otherwise how did you write all full bridge this quickly :D

<plowsof:matrix.org> matrix users can msg br-m: HELP to see more info

<plowsof:matrix.org> selsta git.gammaspectra.live/WeebDataHoarder/matirc

nice seems fully custom written

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Damn, editing messages will be replicated. Nice.

<ct:xmr.mx> is it just me or is a retroactive CCS for an outreach project

<ct:xmr.mx> a crazy pitch?

<ct:xmr.mx> (smh hit enter too soon)

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Sorry, you can register a repo account first at repo.openenet.cn/user/sign_up, which may come in handy later.

will do jackie, the captcha looks impossible to me atm though

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> wait

<jpk68:matrix.org> Why are all the repos gone

account registered^

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: gitea db ver 350 (1.3..) but Forgejo db ver 330(1.2...)

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: will back soon

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> plowsof: thanks , and you can be admin in monero-project

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.or…23ec8b7076f62038359968066830336.png (image.png)

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> repos will back soon

<user2570:unredacted.org> @ct:xmr.mx: It is not just an outreach project. Have you read the entire proposal text?

<user2570:unredacted.org> There is much more work involved besides what you see on the website.

<user2570:unredacted.org> What exactly about CCS retroactive funding / compensation seems crazy to you?

<user2570:unredacted.org> Isn't it even better when the work is already done and docummented before asking for money?[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/u477qPQKVlVwSTJk ]

<syntheticbird> For me the CCS has always been about funding future work. This is described in the CCS website. Retroactive funding is equivalent to buying imho. It's not particularly a bad thing, but I wouldn't qualify it as equivalent to other CCS items.

<syntheticbird> but like plowsof once said, money is in CCS, and monero just want to get improved.

[meta] nahuhh opened issue #1363: Monero Community Workgroup Meeting: Sat, 2026-04-04 16:00UTC

> monero-project/meta #1363

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Batch post: all your recent CCS Idea/Funding Required proposals have been shared on X via @MoneroSpace. xcancel.com/MoneroSpace

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @hinto:monero.social @hinto.janaiyo:matrix.org @jeffro256:monero.social @boog900:monero.social CJ from Grease (idk your username here @cjs77, @SRC), @vtnerd:monero.social @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org @plowsof:matrix.org @user2570:unredacted.org