<321bob321> The translation hyperlink is down

:D

if commenting on reddit translated to coding skills I'd be set

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Community Meeting in 40mins monero-project/meta #1372

Meeting time: monero-project/meta #1372

<jpk68:matrix.org> Hello

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> hello

<user2570:unredacted.org> Hello

Hello everybody

<hbs:matrix.org> hello

<syntheticbird> Hi

<iamnew117:matrix.org> Hello

3. Community highlights

Happy Birthday to Monero

🎈🎉

<syntheticbird> 🎉🎉🎉🎉

👋 🥳

Newsletters still newslettering -- i think cyphergoat is taking a short break. So CG and MO are on breaks atm

News: [Monero Observer](monero.observer) - [Revuo Monero](revuo-xmr.com) - [This week in Monero TWIM](cyphergoat.com/this-week-in-monero)

it's not on the agenda but I was wondering how to get more donations for the CCS

<ofrnxmr> cc @hbs:matrix.org has a #moneroswap:matrix.org giveaway for monero bday

<hbs:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: a very modest one though, don't get too excited:-)

<ofrnxmr> Hey, free is free

<ofrnxmr> nioc, i think we need to expand beyond twitter and matrix. Doesnt help that a lot of these platforms ban tor

I am not even on those lol

<ofrnxmr> its pretty clear that a bulk of donated funds come from a handful of entities

<syntheticbird> and we do thanks this handful of entities

<syntheticbird> as well as all the other

<ofrnxmr> i imagine that, at some point, the well will run dry. Bull and bear markets help. Trading sideways doesnt. During bull markets, whales have extra money. During bear markets, people more readily convert fiat to xmr to purchase the xmr

<ofrnxmr> And yeah, even w/o whales, the donations from regular community members add up, just slower

<syntheticbird> I've said before that I think it would be a good idea to setup multiple social media account (yes including mastodon and bluesky) to not only share updates on CCS items but also interview with the devs or updates by the author's word

<syntheticbird> that's all benefits

<syntheticbird> CCS get material for coverage

<syntheticbird> and authors get closer to the community

thx for volunteering synthetic bird <3

<ofrnxmr> i think mainstream exposure > niche exposure

<jpk68:matrix.org> * Nostr and maybe Lemmy?

<iamnew117:matrix.org> This is a good idea > <@syntheticbird> I've said before that I think it would be a good idea to setup multiple social media account (yes including mastodon and bluesky) to not only share updates on CCS items but also interview with the devs or updates by the author's word

<ofrnxmr> i dont know a single real human who uses bluesky lemmy nostr mastodon

<syntheticbird> im not real

ofc, it's in your name

<syntheticbird> i use blusky and lemmy

<ofrnxmr> Correct. Youre synthetic

<jpk68:matrix.org> I do :)

<ofrnxmr> What i mean, is mainstream adoption is lacking.

<user2570:unredacted.org> Does anyone know how much donations does general fund recieve annually? > <@ofrnxmr> i imagine that, at some point, the well will run dry. Bull and bear markets help. Trading sideways doesnt. During bull markets, whales have extra money. During bear markets, people more readily convert fiat to xmr to purchase the xmr

<jpk68:matrix.org> To be fair, Lemmy people might not be too sympathetic to the cause ;)

general fund donations are public

<ofrnxmr> @user2570:unredacted.org: It varies greatly. Its all logged on twitter and with the view key

<jpk68:matrix.org> Though they do actually accept XMR donations

Placed ad : dont forget Mitra from silverpill. Xmr donations / monero-lws built in (and more!)

gf donates to the CCS

<ofrnxmr> In any case, i think we need to work harder on adoption from the meatspace and someone needs to use mainstream social media

<user2570:unredacted.org> @ofrnxmr: Are there any stats that show the donated amount of past year for example?

<ofrnxmr> There's a dead facebook that used to be excited, probably run by the same person who runs the x

<user2570:unredacted.org> @ofrnxmr: I would vote for nostr

<syntheticbird> We're excited to excite our excitement so you're excited too about this exciting account.

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @ofrnxmr: Perhaps I can take on some of the social media operations in China.

<ofrnxmr> i said mainstream

<jpk68:matrix.org> It's not that un-mainstream

<user2570:unredacted.org> @ofrnxmr: well, mainstream has censorship risk

<syntheticbird> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: are you sure its gonna be ok ? Is XMR well-viewed by the chinese government ?

<syntheticbird> I know chinese are a lot into crypto-trading, but that doesn't particularly make china a crypto-friendly country

<ofrnxmr> Ok lets carry on. Happy bday monero, lets hit a growth spurt this year

<yokoama:matrix.org> Has anyone tried to remove fake "monerogui wallet" on iOS store ? they are stealing user funds

Any other community highlights?

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @syntheticbird: There is no separate regulation on Monero. It is treated the same as all other cryptocurrencies.Possession is legal, but trading is illegal.However, participating in its development is a different matter entirely.

4. CCS proposals

a. [MRL] Dennis Trautwein - [ProbeLab P2P Network Metrics Proposal](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/667)

<user2570:unredacted.org> ofrnxmr: Please postpone the discussion about my monero .eco CCS proposal to next week.

<user2570:unredacted.org> Unfortunately I still need to address some comments and add more details to the proposal. Currently I am running low on time.

Some discussion ongoing regarding KES trust/trustlessness

@user2570 ack

For grease or probelab

whoops

Thanks plowsof

For grease

Probelab discussion obgoing regardonf opensourceness

Any comments?

<syntheticbird> a little expensive

<ofrnxmr> Id say that the commercial offering shoukd be provided to mrl indefinitely, free of charge. Otherwise we're just funding BS

b. JackieXMR - [Set up a temporary news aggregation website](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/655)

@jackie had started work on this and had started posting articles (?). Can you share the link

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> demo: monero-observer.openenet.cn

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I made two versions, check them out.

Where's the 2nd version?

<jpk68:matrix.org> Just curious, is there any particular reason it's copyrighted?

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: emm, have to change

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> ofrnxmr: ?2nd?

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> It wasn't as easy as I thought, but 3ra has indeed been away for quite a long time.

<ofrnxmr> maybe you meant to say "two articles"? > <@pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I made two versions, check them out.

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @ofrnxmr: yes

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> If nobody needs this, the platform will only be updated with meeting information from now on.

Maybe between now and the next meeting you can get it to a point where its able to produce as much real-time content as MO was? (which is the goal)

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> yeah

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> maybe

Any thoughts from anyone else?

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> but there is an exam between 2 time

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> We can also shut it down entirely, and I'll devote my effort to other things instead.

I'm not sure how you will keep up with information like MO did. Thats my main skepticism.

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> yeah, it;s difficult

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> So I plan to see what everyone thinks, and whether this platform is actually needed.

If no further comments, we'll move on. Please everyone comment or thumb up/down the proposal

c. mondetta - [monero.eco 2025-2026 compensation](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/660)

Skipping at request on proposer

<jpk68:matrix.org> Aren't we skipping this one

Yes, but its on the agenda, so still noting it

Questions/feedback can be answered later if anyone has any though

For the logs

d. redsh4de - [CCS Frontend Redesign & Backend Upgrade](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/641)

and

<syntheticbird> for the logs, i'm eating pretzel right now

e. SyntheticBird - [Site and CCS UI/UX, Transitions & Animations work (4 months)](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/644)

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> All +1

<syntheticbird> +1 for redsh4de

No public comment, but core expressed that this should be frontend only, essentially a reskinbto match beta site, and w/o animations

(i was hoping for a public comment. I don't like playing broken telephone)

<syntheticbird> plowosof didn't expressed anything about animations or js

<syntheticbird> so no backend upgrade, no animations, no transitions, no js, no life is that what i should assume is the stance ?

<syntheticbird> im gonna kms

<syntheticbird> (for the logs, im joking)

a re-skin to match beta website is how i understood it, but diego ack'd backend. So theres some communication disconnect here

<syntheticbird> i'll take the risk to wait for communication be reconnected again. If CCS animations and js are out then I have to redo pricing

thank you for being patient

<syntheticbird> always there to wait 👍️

Fwiw, it took like a year and like 10 meetings and a new workgroup to decide on beta website direction 🥲

Can we book another -website meeting for next saturday?

<syntheticbird> saturday? not sunday?

Yeah

<syntheticbird> I would be fine with it but redsh4de is afk. I would say ask in -website room and wait for him to confirm

ok cool

f. jpk68 - [I2P SAMv3 support](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/650)

For the time being, the related bounty and all submissions have been denied. Plowsof has suggested funding this proposal in full using funds from the bounty

<jpk68:matrix.org> I believe approval is quite solid, and the funding source just has to be clarified

<syntheticbird> +1

<jpk68:matrix.org> @i2pdk:matrix.org is also here, in case anyone has questions in that regard

<ofrnxmr> I would say merge to funding required, and fund or top off using the bounty

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> +1

<ofrnxmr> and for the the bounty funds to be used for related anonymity work, like review, torcontrol, enhancing the gui experience beyond what jpk has planned

<ofrnxmr> the remaining* bounty funds

<jpk68:matrix.org> The other open GUI PRs related to I2P integration have also been closed, as of yesterday

<jpk68:matrix.org> Just for the logs, yk

<ofrnxmr> ofrnxmr: "and all submissions have been denied"

<jpk68:matrix.org> My bad, I missed that

<ofrnxmr> Np. My wording wasnt clear

<ofrnxmr> anyway, im cool with using bounty funds to fund it, but id like it to go to funding required -> request for bounty wallet to top off the proposal

g. acx - [part-time work on Monfluo 2026Q2](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/662)

<jpk68:matrix.org> +1

<syntheticbird> +1

h. SNeedlewoods - [part-time-dev-Q2-26](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/664)

Move to work in progress and send 50xmr to the ccs wallets primary address is my plan (for i2p sam)

SNeedlewoods ++++++

<jpk68:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: +1

<ofrnxmr> plowsof: With donations being slow, and ccommitments from i2p to help with funding, i think its a good idea to not look the gift horse in the mouth

<ofrnxmr> And to accept the extra funds, and use the extra bounty funds where needed

<jpk68:matrix.org> Funding from StormyCloud is always an option (they offered to fund it), however since they are a nonprofit it would be preferable to use their funds as a last resort, with the bounty going first. But whatever works :)

<ofrnxmr> So id say to move to fr, and top off the proposal, instead of foregoing the extra donation(s)

<ofrnxmr> In any case, its not a blocker, just my personal preference

<ofrnxmr> also, with all of the.. accounting issues, i wouldnt want it merged to wip until the funds are physically present in the ccs wallet

<ofrnxmr> +1 to jpk acx sneed (already thumbed up gitlab)

i. [MRL] CjS77 - [Grease Payment Channels -- production implementation and SDK](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/651)

_this_ is the one that has ongoing discussion in MRL regarding trusted KES

still deferring to mrl here

j. [Events] - [39C3 Support](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/622)

<ofrnxmr> close 39c3 imo

<jpk68:matrix.org> Unfortunately I have to leave now, but thanks for a good meeting, everyone :)

thanks, hour's up

Also want to mention that the fcmp++ integrarion audit was moved to funding

And beta stressnet is likely targetted to begin in a couple weeks

Will end the meeting here. Feel free to continue discussing.

Thanks everyone

Thanks!

Next meeting in 2 weeks. Saturday May 2, 2026, 1600 UTC

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> As an aside, APRS has been added to the code repository mirror. You can check the server operational status on aprs.fi.

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> CALL:BD8ARB-9

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> mirror:https://repo.openenet.cn

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> and Thanks all

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.or…45919eda02562045551658015916032.png (image.png)

<aillia:matrix.org> 🫡 > <@syntheticbird> I've said before that I think it would be a good idea to setup multiple social media account (yes including mastodon and bluesky) to not only share updates on CCS items but also interview with the devs or updates by the author's word

<aillia:matrix.org> coracle.social/notes/nevent1qythwum…aa4wg9drenap2slnukh3x03p7ymtsyxcnej

<aillia:matrix.org> substack.com/@aillia/note/c-245466635

say it ain’t so fluffypony: x.com/XMRVoid/status/2045523021515915763?s=20

<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> ofrnxmr: monero-project/meta #1372#issuecomment-4274215685 log updated, can close

<kowalabearhugs_> Full support for accounts on mastodon and bluesky to disseminate ccs info, updates, etc > <@syntheticbird> I've said before that I think it would be a good idea to setup multiple social media account (yes including mastodon and bluesky) to not only share updates on CCS items but also interview with the devs or updates by the author's word

<midipoet:matrix.org> Wait. Does Wagyu work though?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Probably

judging by their advisor list it must be legit

<monerobull:matrix.org> I would not be surprised if they he rugs at some point

<diego:cypherstack.com> Oops I missed a couple pings?

<diego:cypherstack.com> Oh I found one. I said yeah a backend upgrade wouldn't be bad but if nobody else thinks it's necessary that's fine.

jeffro256 full-time development 2026Q1 is now fully funded! ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/jeffro256-full-time-2026Q1.html @luigi1111