<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Basically, anything you talk about with that turd, is a waste of time. @pw:xmr.mx

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Unacceptable the guy who after 2 failed attempts, forced his way with the third, milked the CCS of more than 1k XMR... for...

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> hmm...

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Being a dick to everyone and their mother all the time, I guess.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> And now he gets as a medal of honor, running the -community meetings. 😆

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/ofrnxmr_basicswap.html

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> 1685 XMR 😆

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> One thousand six hundred eighty five XMR. 2 contributors... Suspicious...

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @pw:xmr.mx: start analyzing stuff top-to-bottom: luigi1111, plowsof, ofrnxmr

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> You have enough to work on, soldier. Let that brain of yours, spin.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> bon afk!

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> More details here. => gist.github.com/rottenwheel/5ed5f7780531d6bbab69782f7c664d01

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Ok now bbl for real for real.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> one week or two week?!?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> 😂

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> 🍿

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> can we make it 3?

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> 4! Male it symmetric

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Unpair numbera bother me

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> make it a round number and lets settle on 10

<ravfx:xmr.mx> It's base 2 right?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: the king of logical fallacies

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> also a liar who think people cant or wont read

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> "At any rate. I, rottenwheel, am in full disagreement with the way the so-called CCS coordinator handled ofrnxmr's call for my cancellation, I guess?"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> fact is that i never called for lil bro's cancellation. bro was cancelled for years and i fought hard, and succeeded, in having him uncancelled

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> "I legitimately find beyond unacceptable that the current CCS coordinator, plowsof, would listen to an abrasive individual, ofrnxmr, and proceed to block my account repository while running tallies on milestones' payouts, per his own GitHub gist - gist.github.com/plowsof/a5c500151ec8c42eb52aa83f4c275da5 "

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> "over false accusations."

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> if you click the link to plowsof's gist, you can see that there are no accusations, only evidence

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof is CCS coordinator, not "friend who must turn a blind eye to people taking advantage of community trust and double/triple billing for 3 proposals back-to-back"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the only think i did, was notice the count on CCS5 didnt make sense

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> scoped as 12 issues per proposal, with allowance for discrepancies, so nobody was going to complain about 9 or 13 etc. the issue was that the count was wrong altogether

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 242-248 looks like 7 issues, right? well, 242 and 243 were billed in the PRIOR ccs. so really, is 5 issues.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> but as you can see on the comments here, he reports

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 4 issues: repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/593#note_31450

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 3 issues: repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…ls/-/merge_requests/593#note_31728[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/l7ibrqMLVnA5cF9o ]

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> so this isnt a matter of "OMG OFRN IS TRYING TO CAANCEL ME AND PLOWSOF IS LISTENING TO THAT FUCKING POS GUY". its just math bro. 242 and 243 were already paid for, 245 was included in M1, 247 was included in M2, and M3 delivered only 248

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> gist.github.com/plowsof/a5c500151ec8c42eb52aa83f4c275da5#summary

<pw:xmr.mx> 10 years > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> make it a round number and lets settle on 10

<pw:xmr.mx> you do exactly that. > <@rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Being a dick to everyone and their mother all the time, I guess.

<pw:xmr.mx> stfu you pos > <@rottenwheel:unredacted.org> You have enough to work on, soldier. Let that brain of yours, spin.

<pw:xmr.mx> you will be missed. .... not > <@rottenwheel:unredacted.org> goes afk for a week

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @pw:xmr.mx: no shit

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> captain obvious speaking.

<r4v3r23> no, hes a user that wants to be a contributor > <plowsof> udenix is the kotlin dev?

<r4v3r23> its all over the place for political/personal reasons. no other CCS is being subjected to this > <@pw:xmr.mx> after the last meeting r4v3r managed to pop in and replied 'devs are ready'

<r4v3r23> everything has been ready to go for months, and ive changed the proposal multiple times due to feedback from these meetings

<r4v3r23> idk, he said hed support/"not against" multiple times > <plowsof> what is ofrnxmr waiting for to vote on the proposal?

<r4v3r23> this isnt our first CCS, and this has been dragging on for 4 months

<r4v3r23> just let the community vote with their wallets and thats it

<r4v3r23> if no one cares, itll stay unfunded like other proposals are

<r4v3r23> thank you. that all depends on this funding, otherwise we wont be able to continue > <@pw:xmr.mx> I'm all for it succeeding BTW.

<r4v3r23> this CCS is the main chunk of the remaining feature work, contuined support after this will be much simpler

<pw:xmr.mx> @r4v3r23: I hope you get things resolved. everyone deserves a fair shot

<r4v3r23> @pw:xmr.mx: that means a lot. we just want to keep building

<pw:xmr.mx> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: and its this attitude and mightyness that makes you come across a complete arrogant dickhead.

<pw:xmr.mx> and your pinging in main chats that you've DM someone and to check their inbox cos you want to be heard and scared they don't respond to you, or emailing devs when OTHER people are trying to reach them in a DM or an apps channel, or taking it upon yourself to shoot people down when they seek support in apps channel (which is why those channels are there, for discussions and support)

<pw:xmr.mx> but you can't help but take it upon yourself to open support tickets on GitHub or codeberg FOR OTHER PEOPLE cos you want to seem of importance and brag about it cos you do that.

<pw:xmr.mx> [... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/74-duKMLc2Y5T3di ]

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @pw:xmr.mx: Thanks for always making my days with the stuff you say about me lol.

<pw:xmr.mx> emoji king!

<pw:xmr.mx> kinda explains your 'OMG France' comment when you posted a link to an article stating France was banning social media for under 16s.

<pw:xmr.mx> those emojis probably worked with your favourite age group audience

<pw:xmr.mx> damn it was under 15s wasn't it.... even worse. you wrong 'en

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @pw:xmr.mx: > those emojis probably worked with your favourite age group audience

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> The spelling of the word favourite, very telling.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> The false, facetious accusation... it says far more about you, than me.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> [... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/8On-uaMLSHVNQVVE ]

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Me? I posted a news article, said wow, such a country. You? Interpreted something else, and then projected what you may think yourself, onto me. Publicly.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Thank you. I appreciate every time you decide to type. Now I know your English is British, or any of those mongrel colonies leftovers.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Have a great rest of your Sunday, clown.

<pw:xmr.mx> Canada a mongrel colony? if you say so.

<pw:xmr.mx> enjoy rest of your weekend too 😘

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Love it how you ended up with zero rebuttals to that.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Next time you throw rocks at a window, make sure you aren't assuming, or projecting. ;)

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> If you need help for what those two things are, ask AI, or Google.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Canadian nothingburger.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> I'll be waiting for my pound of Canadian bacon. ;)

<321bob321> So many emojis, ai is here ?

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I love the drama, but offtopic exists for a reason.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> right?

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> I don't tbh

<pw:xmr.mx> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: yes sorry for that drama.

<pw:xmr.mx> I have now added a few blocks to stop me getting wound up, moving forward.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: he's new.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> stfub ear.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> #monero-offtopic:monero.social

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: That would be in an ideal world, where things work as expected. Practice oftens reflects something different from theory, however... -community is the catch-all community-adjacent stuff, on-offtopic alike, whereas community dev is the ghey version plowsof and colleagues came up with when our Ita [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/h5jzxKMLajdaVC1j ]

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Nobody really participates in offtopic besides stray people, it's been like this for year...

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Once again, I am sorry to inform you: you are just too new. You don't know what you are saying, or doing.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> As patchwork would've put it... "a complete arrogant dickhead." 🤷‍♂️ Ask me if I give a fuck.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Wait until ofrn and his farm of nobodies interrupts screaming nonsense.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @pw:xmr.mx

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> This garbage is why plowsof banned rottten from here

<ct:xmr.mx> lol

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> whoops

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> forgot an option

<ct:xmr.mx> You'll just keep deleting the poll until you got what you want 💢

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ct:xmr.mx: oooo

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> the what the fuck

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 🧠

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Can’t we fucking keep things clean and neat?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> when rottens years long ban ended, one of the conditions was that he would not derail rooms and would stay on topic, avoiding conflicts and being professional

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> his statement above is essentially saying that community workgroup should be treated like the defacto offtopic

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> If allowed, i would like to suggest just putting basic rules, 3 strikes and banned.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> doesn’t matter who or when.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> a bit of organization can’t hurt

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> when this room is really meant for workgroup discussion, only

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> that means, general discussion about any of the various workgroups. its not off topic, its not general chat, and rotten knows this better than most people

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: this gives a chance to everyone to do things right

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> rotten has had like 19 strikes

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and was just banned/unbanned for this same thing

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> like 2 weeks ago

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (in this room only, since he knows where to direct the discussions, but is insistent on being part of the problem)

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Doesn’t matter to me who, when, how many times, again, i suggest a little addition of rules

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> and, the 3 strikes.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> but its only my opinion, also seems like a lot of people simply don’t care

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its not that they dont care. just that nobody checks rotten

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> everybody else is directed to the appropriate rooms, and they respect it

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its not a 3 strike thing, like we keep tally. its a repeated offender gets kicked thing

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> rotten has been a non-stop offended for at least a year

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (and was banned for it like a month ago)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> when you say organized, monero rooms are organized. there is a room for everything, and not-new rotten knows that. he just chooses to shit in plowsofs yard because he knows he wont do anything

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Who’s in charge of the banhammer?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> diego, plowsof, monerobull, xmrscott

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> but this isnt a banhammer thing

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> he doesnt derail other rooms

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Ok so the ban only applies here, good.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Is a thing of tagging them? or is there a “to ban list"”

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> or how does this work, in this case.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> they do what they want, but rotten never gets touched. when plowsof banned him, rotten, nstead of taking it to the monero-resolutions channel, went to meta repo to try to tear down plowsof and force an unban

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> fml

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> he was unbanned, and since then has contributed nothing but more of the same nonsense

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> This is something we should bring up in the next meeting

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Or i should just simply give up, seems like I care more than i should.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i think people just need to be treated equally. if kitty is banned for going off the rails, why isnt rotten?

<pw:xmr.mx> cos he orchestras peoples DMS via email etc and posts CCS etc on several platforms and makes a deal of opening issues on GitHub or codeberg, as apparently the app specific rooms are not for discussion or support

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Here’s a pool

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> i voted, you all should do the same

<pw:xmr.mx> anyway.

<pw:xmr.mx> in apologised earlier for my part in the earlier drama.

<pw:xmr.mx> he winds me up, I get angry and I bit.[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/iL_vxaMLZzMzdndZ ]

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i always feed into it myself, because bro likes to lie to make people look bad, and make himself look like a victim. like claiming that there were false accusations made against him, when the only thing that was done was a hand count of the issues that he billed for vs produced

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> like, plowsofs job is ccs coordinator, is he supposed to turn a blind eye to invoices that dont add up?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> he does some math and a reported 9 is actually 5, and now hes accused of false accusations and listening to ofrnxmr, as if ofrnxmr invented fingers to count on

<syntheticbird> can someone summarize this in a single sentence please

<syntheticbird> like

<syntheticbird> all the chat

ofrnxmr told plowsof to cancel an innocent by fabricating evidence and he said yes of course

and the ccs is still broken, soon

<syntheticbird> fair enough

still broken but should be up in the future

<redsh4de:matrix.org> shameless self-plug: ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/redshade-ccs-fullstack-overhaul.html

totals of funding required so far getwishlisted.xyz/proposals.json

<jpk68:matrix.org> plowsof: Is mine funded, or just not there yet?

thumbs_up for redsh4de

not there yet

<syntheticbird> tsmt true redsh4de should have some neros too

<pw:xmr.mx> WIP pictures look fantastic redsh4de

at some point I should add full balance tracking to the blocks explorer plowsof so the exact amounts are known :D

<plowsof:matrix.org> blocks.p2pool.observer/payments

<plowsof:matrix.org> monero-zero-key? 👀

yeah someone sent 0.002865777412 XMR the other day

swept it on that later tx :)

yeah people mine to the CCS

<plowsof:matrix.org> are they willingly doing this? cant be a mistake?

01:01:12 <DataHoarder> someone mined on supportxmr to GF blocks.p2pool.observer/tx/fd8b28988…99871f81973b25c63f06dc366f757c85841

it could be a mistake, but it's still explicitly the zero-key address so anyone (who sets it up) can spend it too as it has known keys

it's also sent to the main addr, which looks weird, so idk

<jpk68:matrix.org> Can we get a list of "Top 10 Most Insane Monero Transactions"

I annotate some on git.gammaspectra.live/P2Pool/blocks…ver/src/branch/master/tx-notes.yaml

feel free to suggest more :)

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Seems like the group took an interesting path, so...

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> some of you may know that i’ve been working Monero payment integrations (xmrpay).

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> already have working stuff for WooCommerce, HikaShop, VirtueMart, OpenCart, JS, PHP, etc.[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/3ZSfyKMLajhUNWdH ]

<jpk68:matrix.org> DataHoarder: I was thinking of block 202612, but it looks like that's already on there

<jpk68:matrix.org> I remember a Reddit post where someone (sech1?) linked to the highest amount ever recorded, before RingCT

not me

<jpk68:matrix.org> *comment, not post

<jpk68:matrix.org> Maybe it's this one: 501289d7ff4380826a05f746693ae1ad61dcb5132842a7925eb87c045797f4b1

half a million+ heh

without decoys on each

<jpk68:matrix.org> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/8ot4a4…the_largest_monero_transaction_ever

<jpk68:matrix.org> Blocks 571428 and 131942

<pw:xmr.mx> how much would fees be on ½mil

<jpk68:matrix.org> Both seem potentially related

<jpk68:matrix.org> DataHoarder: I think you once linked to some transactions that overpaid fees by a huge amount. Something like a 2 XMR fee

maybe stressnet :P

but I think p2pool mined some blocks like that yeah

those are interesting I guess, nothing to add notes about

except the largest public amount I guess, given it's permanent

<jpk68:matrix.org> Do we know the largest ring signature ever in a transaction?

<jpk68:matrix.org> As in, number of decoy signers, when you could choose the number

<kayabanerve:matrix.org> I think (tens of?)/thousands? there's some old TX with an absurd amount

<jpk68:matrix.org> Poor man's FCMP++

<jpk68:matrix.org> You know, using a few million ring decoys