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ndorf
luigi1111w: done
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luigi1111w
thanks
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ycihepgxxkm
Did you know that all witdraw-buyer-seller-depoist chains are trackable in Monero? No? You should have read Breaking Monero. How many people are you endangering with your 'privacy' coin?
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epxjulsxrw
I can tell you why you can't stop the 'spam'. You are thinking in cult doctrine. If it was real spam, and I was selling Viagra for example - you could easily ban keywords and urls. Instead, stop being a sheep, think like a cult leader. Recoginse that this 'spam' is just some bullshit that you tell to the sheep.
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epxjulsxrw
When you do that, solution will present itself. Observe. 'spam' -> 'FUK talks bad things about Monero on our IRC' (Don't say that out loud obviously, that will get you excommunicated) Solution? Get off-the-shelf sentiment analyser, detect anyone who 'talks bad things about Monero' and ban them.
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holeholehole
hellp
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holeholehole
hello*
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holeholehole
anyone here?
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holeholehole
I want to report a problem with the gui monero wallet. more specifically, a potential vulnerability. not software, but human.
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hyc
shouldn't you just submit an issue to
github.com/monero-project/monero-gui ?
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holeholehole
I'm not sure.
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hyc
better to write your problem description there, where it won't get lost
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holeholehole
in many other cryptocurrency wallets you can create an unlimited number of addresses. in monero wallet you can also create an unlimited number of addresses, but these addresses cannot be deleted. In various other cryptocurrency wallets, a new address is generated each time you open the menu to receive funds. Why is this a problem? Let's imagine we buy monero from several exchangers and give
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holeholehole
the same address because we don't want to generate a large number of addresses in our wallet and this is a vulnerability. if exchangers cooperate, they can see that this address was used several times to buy monero and this is already some information that can be handled.
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holeholehole
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)yY
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moneromooo
So you're asking to generate a new one every time it's displayed ?
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moneromooo
(ie, without being asked)
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hyc
sounds like a non-problem. for KYC exchanges, not even workable. e.g. Kraken only lets you withdraw to pre-configured addresses.
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moneromooo
There could certainly be a message saying "Clicking "get new one" is encouraged for your privacy" I guess.
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hyc
the bank ATM analogy still holds - why does it matter? When you withdraw cash from an ATM, the bank knows it was you.
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hyc
but they'll never have any idea what you do with that cash
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moneromooo
The idea is that bank1 and bank2 don't know you1 and you2 are the same.
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hyc
sure. so you have a different address for bank1 and bank2, so they will never know.
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hyc
but you don't need a new address every time you withdraw from bank1 or bank2
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moneromooo
I don't think this would prevent you from reusing an address.
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holeholehole
We are talking about anonymity and making it difficult to generate new addresses is a vulnerability
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moneromooo
Oh if it's difficult to do, then it should be fixed, sure.
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holeholehole
it is very difficult to have many addresses in one wallet. because to get to the last address you have to scroll through the entire list of addresses ever used in your wallet
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holeholehole
generating a new address is not difficult, but when there are too many addresses it becomes difficult to reach the last one generated
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moneromooo
OK, fair.
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moneromooo
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hyc
can't you just click on the bottom of the scrollbar and arrive at the last one immediately?
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holeholehole
I don't have a githab
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holeholehole
can you make a request?
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holeholehole
hyc is that convenient?
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hyc
it is the standard mechanism for navigating scrollbars
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hyc
I suppose one could request a Sort Ordering control, to reverse the order of presentation, and put latest address at the top of the list instead of bottom
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moneromooo
done, 3570
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holeholehole
Imagine what will happen when there are around 1,000 of these addresses
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holeholehole
moneromoo what?
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moneromooo
I mean I filed it for you, issue 3570.
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hyc
no different. still, a single click takes you to one end or the other of the list.
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hyc
this is mostly a non-issue IMO
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hyc
but whatever. let the GUI team work it out
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moneromooo
Agreed, but there are people who concentrate on making the UI easier to use, so that'd be right up their alley.
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holeholehole
Thank you very much. I hope the development team will think about this problem
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Lyza
the solution feather and other wallets use is to have a toggle that hides used addresses
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Lyza
inverting sort order could also work if used / unused addresses are clearly differentiated
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selsta
there is a PR open for a redesign of the page that does what you want holeholehole
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selsta
but reviewing large design changes like this is alway difficult so might take a while until it is included in a release
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Lyza
I think this is what selsta means
monero-project/monero-gui #2936
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selsta
yes
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holeholehole
monero-project/monero-gui #2936 has this already been implemented?
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Lyza
implemented in code yes but not merged into the main codebase
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ncflhnyjohvs
FUK has bееn intеnsеly hostilе to Monеro for ovеr 4 yеars. Making minеrs for Monеro, making a pool for Monеro, making codе that Monеro copiеd, not using bugs to stеal millions from еxchangеs. Wow. Such grеat hostility.