<woodser[m]> "how can a transaction be..." <- you also want to make sure to be careful that your resulting tx fee is equal to calculate_fee on the tx. want to e.g. avoid this issue: mymonero/mymonero-core-cpp #36

can ping me to review a fee implementation woodser

hey, i followed that guide and when i go to open cmake through VS it says that it was unable to fine libunbound

i looked around and i havent found anything

i dont feel like my usecase is that uncommon im just using VS 2022 and on win 10

arimfexendrapus: IMO use WSL and compile there

it has compiled

i successfully did the guide but when i open the cmake it doesnt work

this should not be this diffucult in my opinion

what ide is generally used for monero dev work?

people use all sorts. maybe check out clion?

*shudders at windows*

its not that bad

tis just a flesh wound

most of the world uses it

oh, sorry i'm not an expert

are you a c++ dev?

lol

yea

whoa

what kind of stuff have you worked on?

hm *skims scrollback*

logistics

interesting

managing shipping, kinda stuff

yeah

ahh cool, thanks for bringing the issue here :) welcome

i really dont even know what to do about the error tho

oh, well, you could trace it, branch, then submit a fix to mainline as a PR

if you wanted

yea i hate to see this kind of error

cuz monero is worlds ahead of everyone else

hmmm

but stupid stuff like this just makes it look bad

like address book functionality should just work

and understandable its not the main priority of the devs but perceptions matter and thats something that anyone actually using monero will quickly encounter

nah it's a priority

and its not world ending but its annoying

it's just that monero is made up of people just like you

maybe it wasn't known about

i opened up the .h and .cpp for wallet2 and was looking at the functions and structs for address book just to see

but then i got sidetracked trying to make cmake work

and thus far no luck

what's the error? libunbound not found? must check your installation of it i guess

yea but do am i supposed to install it in the msys64 environment or what

in any case if you want to factor the address book and hook the tests up to it then i'm sure you could make a build target for the addr book which does not require libunbound, this is the sort of thing i've been doing and will be submitting a proposal for more extensive work like this on wallet2 shortly.. most of that work has already been done years ago in the form if basic pure function factorizations

idk man it depends on how cmake is trying to find it i guess

cuz i tried just calling unbound through pacman and theres not a package for it

its a little in the weeds

well, *i* dont plan to submit the proposal

mostly just advising on it

ill see what i can do, i just wouldve liked to get the whole thing going instead of pieceworking it

that's a good idea

arent there windows setup/compile instructions?

yea

they worked

but when i go to open the cmake in vs it doesnt work

even tho the executables were made and in the right place

oh

have you googled for cmake finding library in vs?

maybe you could PR a note to the instructions afterwards

yea ive just been doing this on the side today, ive been kinda busy with other things, and its turning out to be a whole process instead of me just opening up the solution and starting to actually fix the problem

dont give up! :)

i do think it would be really neat to contribute to something like this

well you're welcome here and the idea is that everyone's contributions will get merged

think i may have found something

well see

* we'll see

says here... *reformat drive and install linux* wow

teasing :)

😂

if worst comes to worst hyperv is a thing

ill just run it in a vm

what distro do you use?

um familiar with kali and ubuntu

i like those

s/um/im/

i just cant deal with the tinckering that comes with linux, i enjoy it but when i need to do work i cant be dealing with my os

s/tinckering/tinkering/

if that makes sense

that's understandable but i think the idea is that eventually you figure stuff out, and typically it ends up stable on the hardware of choice, .. and what's nice is that you can come back to the system year after year and the same thing will generally be stable

sounds like you are comfortable using windows... but hopefully you dont get bitten by a security problem

Eventually, i will probably make the switch

i will probably switch from win 10 to ubuntu instead of win 11

but i dont think ill be switching from win 10 any time soon as they seem to plan to support is for some time

Greetings.

hey hey

Hi, you have an extraordinary name.

I generally get my first choice of username

i will say that

It's like that everywhere?

And you end it with the bracket?

hmm?

"arimfexendrapus["

nope no braket

does it show a braket?

Ah.

* nope no bracket

s/braket/bracket/

Yeah, but maybe it's just truncating an [m]

Still extraordinary.

odd

anyway

what you gere for?

* what you here for?

i only just joined meself but these guys have been very helpfull

Nice.

Basically I'm just looking into Monero gateway stuff.

go on...?

I'm looking into integrating it into a payment flow.

Do you have strong opinions about the official Python library?

Ooo

nope

Third-party APIs?

ive never done anything with gateways

i wont be much help

sry

That's okay.

What do you do with Monero then?

i use it, i mine it, and hopefully here soon i will be contributing in the form of fixing bugs

i would say i am an amature compared to others in this chat

That's cool.

you?

I know nothing about Monero but I like the vibe, lol.

lol

And banks like to give me a hard time for some reason, so here we are.

we kinda are the cool kids of crypto i think

I really hate banks, just on a personal level.

lol

Not in some theoretical sense.

well you hate the world then i guess

In an immediate "they keep screwing me in many minor ways" sense.

cuz banks are EVERYWERE

sadly

lol those overdraft fees kicking your ass?

Seriously.

No, it's not overdraft fees.

or u mean like seriously kicking ur ass like seisure and freezing

More like I try to mobile-deposit a check, it doesn't go through for BS reasons.

ah

I try to do an electronic transfer, it doesn't go through for BS reasons.

I try to open a biz account, it errors out for reasons no one can figure out.

Etc.

well its an antiquated system that the world uses,

Mostly I think it's incompetence, frankly.

but the world uses it nonetheless

could i request y'all keep non-dev chat to e.g. #monero?

I came here for dev, bro.

yeah i know

lol sry will do in the future, where do you sugest we take this

#monero would be good

it's just that dev matters get lost in the scrollback more easily etc

kk sry bout that

no worries

So @endogenic, do you have any strong opinions about Monero gateways?

MagnificentMan: github.com/monero-integrations

None of those are applicable, unfortunately.

MagnificentMan: i guess you could say so

I looked at the monero-python library (github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-python)

It seems a little involved, but is it just the best option in concert with Flask?

sorry, i havent been working with python

What do you use for Monero mostly?

but i should

lately c++ and typescript

C++ for what? And Typescript with some sort of node-based compiler?

c++ for my "monero-core-custom", "monero-core-cpp", and others

we can transpile it to WASM and e.g. use it from the browser

That's very cool.

I've just googled and apparently you can run Swift in browsers now.

Wild.

hm last i saw which was admittedly maybe a year ago, that was still incomplete

swift is one of my favorite languages

Yeah.

It's hard to find any major downsides, really.

If it runs and runs well on browsers, it's game over for everybody else.

well, now that it's stable, i guess

well keep in mind just because it can be transpiled to wasm doesn't mean that you're suddenly going to see react.js and the dom ported to it but i think that's probably coming eventually

believe there is serverside swift as well

It probably won't take very long. It really just seems like everything is accelerating.

guess we are not exactly talking about monero-dev anymore

Lol. True.

this happens

as i have found

well i recall writing swift bindings to monero-core-cpp

but i would suggest working from mainline to start with, whatever that looks like for you

but it's true monero-core-cpp is really more for using monero-lws rather than the rpc api

Right.

the goal is to converge all that stuff with wallet2

or rather factor wallet2 etc

which is what core-cpp already is, generally

monero-lws is moving away from a relational database, according to the readme.

quote?

No offense, but that's a bad idea.

it already uses lmdb ?

"LMDB instead of MySQL"

it already does that

OK

My humble opinion is that almost anyone using almost anything but SQLite is barking up the wrong tree.

lol

-> #monero-sqlite pls

just teasing

lol

you should chat with hyc about it

Who is that?

:D

MagnificentMan: you can use Python to make requests to the monero wallet rpc. That's what I do. I don't recommend the python monero library since it's redundant and requires dependencies and still requires the rpc to be running.

Elijah[m]: it looks like he closed his IRC client

ill send him a ss

returns triumphantly.

So what was it about the thing, Elijah?

Run the monero wallet rpc and simply make requests to the rpc wallet

Honestly, I have no idea what that means.

You were asking how to process payments using python no?

Yes, but my previous knowledge vis-à-vis crypto is nil.

in monero you need three things, one is the blockchain/daemon and the other is a scanner that would take the view key, in this case the rpc server .. then you have a client side that forms transactions and submits them to the rpc server

or run monero-lws instead of the rpc server

The "blockchain/daemon" would be monerod? Where do I read about this?

Ah okay, well basically the wallet-rpc allows api calls for external programs to interact with your wallet. You can use it to create addresses and check for transactions to these addresses.

* wallet-rpc allows rest api calls

(I've skimmed the monero-python docs but they didn't apply or I didn't have the necessary contextual knowledge base.)

MagnificentMan: monerodocs.org/interacting/monero-wallet-rpc-reference

One minute.

I see, so monero-python wraps monero-wallet-rpc, and monero-wallet-rpc manages a hot wallet somehow.

The wallet is the entirety of the state?

What do you mean by "the state"

You know, like stored information.

Bits, bytes, data, value.

lol

yes generally that's what you're looking for, from what it sounds like you want?

there have got to be examples ?

Maybe?

I'm not sure. I have to sign off for tonight but I may be back sometime later.

can someone clarify exactly when tx-notify gets called? Is it only when the transaction first appears?

Is there anywhere that zmq is documented?

bootlegbilly[m]: did you look in the docs folder?

r4v3r23[m]: fee changes have been approved

arimfexendrapus[m]: since you mentioned MSYS, here's the list of packages, that you need to install:

<selsta> "bootlegbilly: did you look in..." <- I apologize, I thought most of the documntation was on getmonero.org

bootlegbilly[m]: ideally it should also be on the website, yes

the `docs` can be updated more frequently.

So is zmq only for monerod?

From what I can tell

Not for the wallet rpc

as far as I know, yes monerod only

Sorry for all the questions, but is there any way of mimicking some wallet rpc calls

Like for example, instead of sending get_balance, is there any documentation on the specific commands to send to monerod?

get_balance is a wallet command, you would need a whole wallet implementation

Thank you

Sorry I've just been trying to figure out how to avoid making as many rpc calls to the wallet as possible, since it's currently one of my bottlenecks

bootlegbilly[m]: might want to test to compile with monero-project/monero #8076

I'll try that now

Is it still compatible w the latest stable monero version?

the patch is for the master branch but might also apply to release branch

otherwise you can just test the master branch

it's compatible with the current network

Ty

Hey there, I was playing with Monero Wallet RPC and multisig, but how can I view the data of a transaction multisig txset, before signing it? For example seeing the amount of the transaction and recipient.

Don't remember exactly, but in such cases I always study the `simplewallet.cpp` code first to see how it's done, and then check whether the crucial methods are called in the RPC daemon

to see whether there is a RPC call, and if yes which one

The describe_transfer RPC does that IIRC.

rbrunner: Sadly I'm not a CPP chad :-(

moneromooo: Thanks :-)

<selsta> "r4v3r23: fee changes have been..." <- time to call another hardfork meeting then?

if everything is more or less ready then lets start to finalize dates

What time would the meeting be at?

I'm seeing monerod get_transactions always return unlock_time=0, even after the transaction confirms and unlocks. is the unlock height available using the daemon or are wallet keys also needed?

It's cleartext.

Maybe it's not set. Since most txes don't set an unlock time, it would not have been spotted easily.

actually it does return unlock_time > 0 if the transaction is created with an unlock height > 0. my mistake

.merge+ 8169

Added

to be clear what unlock_time means, the tx will unlock at height = tx height + min(10, unlock_time)?

IIRC it's an absolute height.

ah, right