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bridgerton[m]
<pleasenotalreadyused> hi, sorry if someone asked that before,
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bridgerton[m]
but what are the implications for the people who use a ledger hardware wallet for monero.
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bridgerton[m]
Can I still convert my ledger seed phrase in a standard monero mnemonic?
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bridgerton[m]
Or is it advisable to transfer your monero from the ledger device to another wallet before the hardfork?
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garth
bridgerton[m] Please ask this in #monero. This channel is for development
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jeffro256[m]
Meowingcat: it would greatly help us help you with these types of requests if you included a minimal reproducible example and the resulting unexpected behavior, or even descriptions thereof. Saying that it “doesn’t work” without providing context doesn’t give us much to help you with
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jeffro256[m]
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MeowingCat
is there a way to change wallet password in wallet2 API?
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ofrnxmr[m]1
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ofrnxmr[m]1
<moneromooo> "Whlie I have nfi what your..." <- ^
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ofrnxmr[m]1
<moneromooo> "Can you stop spamming please..." <- ^
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ofrnxmr[m]1
For the amount of assistance youve required, your whole program might as well have been written by moo and ooo.... (full message at
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…687824220b4c68572c59dbb341bcec78c55)
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rbrunner
Well miaoued.
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aog
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aog
is this a bug? or we're supposed to mine 0tx blocks
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moneromooo
Is this your block ? Were htere txes in the pool and did you modify the source, and how ?
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rbrunner
It seems the block was mined about 11 seconds after the previous one. Looks like a case where there simply was not enoug time for new tx to appear to go into it.
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sech1
This is p2pool block, it has 10 seconds delay before it starts mining a new mempool transaction, so everything checks out
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aog
it's not my block, was mined by p2pool
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aog
moneromooo: is this supposed to happen ?
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moneromooo
If you mean "can a block include no transactions", then yes. If it could not, miners would have to make a dummy tx when there's no other tx. It'd be pretty wasteful.
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moneromooo
IF you mean "why did this block not have any tx when there were some in the txpool", it could be a bug in whatever made the block template.
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moneromooo
But without evidence of the latter, I'll assume there is no bug.
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aog
a faulty logic for monero to reward blocks that transport 0 transactions
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moneromooo
Can you find better ?
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moneromooo
(without being too complicated)
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moneromooo
If you say "zero block reward if no txes", then miners will just send dummy txes, adding bloat and diminishing sync speed for no gain.
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moneromooo
If you say "just prevent blocks wiht no txes", same will happen.
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moneromooo
If you say "somehow increase block time if no txes", then you have to ensure future syncers can verify this block time increase was justified according to consensus rules, and this relies on extraneous data not on the chain.
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moneromooo
It's a bit academic now though, at least for monero, but a good solution to that could be useful.
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sech1
There's no faulty logic. I just checked p2pool logs: when 2649104 was found, there were 3 transactions in the mempool, but all 3 were too young (less than 10 seconds) to be included in the next block, and the very next p2pool sidechain block (which was empty because of above) mined 2649105, this is why it was empty.
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rbrunner
I think aog means to say that who mines an empty block doesn't provide any useful service and should not get any reward in turn
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sech1
empty block is useful, it confirms (adds more PoW on top) transactions in previous blocks
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moneromooo
That's a good point.
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rbrunner
Yes
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aog
understood, thank you guys for the academic info
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kayabaNerve
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kayabaNerve
I don't know who originally caused you to discuss this a few weeks ago, but I did just publicize this :)
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kayabaNerve
So also letting the rest of the channel know, just wanted to make sure you got the heads up
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moneromooo
Nice :)
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ooo123ooo1234567
<kayabaNerve> "moneromooo:
github.com..." <-
github.com/serai-dex/serai, this repo is more complex and more interesting
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kayabanerve[m]
Yes. It is.
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kayabanerve[m]
It's also pillaged with TODOs with regards to Monero :p
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kayabanerve[m]
So waiting a couple days before I discuss my own Monero rust.
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kayabanerve[m]
Honestly, I'd appreciate your feedback. I just expect more snark than commentary
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kayabanerve[m]
But you are a good developer and potentially a better cryptography than me (no idea regarding dev, definitely a lot of similarities) so I'd love to have your criticism :)
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kayabanerve[m]
I'd also appreciate it in PM or in a more focused channel. It isn't really monero-dev :p
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moneromooo
Unfortunately, very little crypto actually rubbed off on me. I am a competent coder, but a non existent cryptographer.
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kayabanerve[m]
moneromooo: You muted who I'm responding to :p
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moneromooo
Oh :D
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kayabanerve[m]
But I will note I'm looking for developers like you even if you don't know cryptography ;) Just between Rust and your limited time I figured it wasn't good to ask :p
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kayabanerve[m]
Most of the core cryptography is done