<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Stack does for wow

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> polyseed for wownero?

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Yes

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> At least that what I've heard. Just tested it and saw its only 14 words

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> So maybe no

<t​obtoht:monero.social> It uses tevador's earlier proof of concept: github.com/tevador/monero-seed/tree…c7504f6b969bbe24b13973cf8e2b3fd4b18

<t​widtwo:matrix.org> I am trying to build monero-java or monero-ts for their full local wallet features to use in an android app I'm developing. I am having an incredibly difficult time being able to build them on android or find any information on how too. If anyone knows how to do this or could point to anything they thing would be helpful, I would really appreciate it.

<d​etherminal:matrix.org> That's the worst part of these libraries. You need Wallet RPC in the background for syncing your wallet, how do you gonna run it in an android device? This libraries aren't useful imo until you have full control of the device, which means you cannot produce things for other users. Also there isn't any working libraries except these ones and these are not enough powerful. I actuall<clipped message>

<d​etherminal:matrix.org> y build a library that is a real library but it is not production ready so I am sorry. Please tell me if you can find a way to make standalone wallet apps, because I couldn't.

<t​widtwo:matrix.org> I may have a misunderstanding but from the documentation of these libraries the full local wallet parts are effectively a wrapper for the native monero-cpp library which would allow for direct use bypassing wallet rpc, no?

<t​widtwo:matrix.org> I may have a misunderstanding but from the documentation of these libraries the full local wallet parts are effectively a wrapper for the native monero-cpp library which would allow for direct use bypassing wallet rpc, no?

<t​widtwo:matrix.org> Also is there a public repo that you are working on your library in would love to look at if you don't mind.

<d​etherminal:matrix.org> Yeah, there is a wrapper of cpp but it is still pre-compiled and wrapper, that means you are gonna have more problems (for example building it for every platform that you want to use it) than a native one. My library is: github.com/monumexyz/libmonero

<t​widtwo:matrix.org> Thanks for the advice. 🙂

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> detherminal: monero-serai works.

<d​etherminal:matrix.org> Is it published on crates, iirc it's latest release was deleted

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> It wasn't. It was yanked.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> It probably won't have a new release until its fingerprinting is resolved, which is what jberman: is wrapping up.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> It's still usable via a `git` spec

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It's not very hard. Townforge (the game) is a standalone wallet app using wallet2. Or, even simpler, simplewallet (though you might object it's part of the monero tree so doesn't count).

You can look at src/wallet/wallet_rpc_server.cpp to see what RPC map to what wallet2 calls.

And then just link against wallet2. It's not a lib you can put in /usr/lib64 or whatever, but you can put it in your binary's path and ship it with it. Not much difference.

(I'm replying about "You need Wallet RPC in the background", not about "having an incredibly difficult time being able to build them on android", for clarity)

Though actually both, since wallet2 builds on android AFAIK.

<w​oodser:monero.social> twidtwo let me know if I can help with the build. first good step is to build the monero-project submodule

<k​okoqeen:matrix.org> anyone joining from three-letter-organisations here ? just wanted to say hi !!!

hi im from bar

the one of foo

;)

Does the MRL (Monero Research Lab) count as a three-letter-organisation?

hum

if i was a 3 letter organization i would call the isps and tell them to drop all packets on 18081

in this context

what is the interest of migrating this :

to be instead of phones to be for miners

it supports up to 255 incoming and 255 outgoing connections

only one hop connections no transitivity

and then one could go to the raspi and use that too (for phones) and say : they got me here gonna go to jail now

as what you do in life echoes through eternity

its a ok

just curious

;)

hmm selsta reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/190j912/monerod_constantly_killed

misses OS

but the github issue seems to be mining related and this one syncing

don't think it's related

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Anyone knows why monerodocs is down?

<n​ow-is-the-time:matrix.org> will monero source code ever switch to entirely Rust or Go?

You can write node implementation in any programming language you want, monero is just a protocol

ideally imo we'd have multiple implementations maintained

I hope the rust project is able to finish but it's hard to imagine it ever really replacing the c++ implementation entirely

<n​ow-is-the-time:matrix.org> are there any problems with the c++ implementation?

There is a node implementation in rust or go (can't recall which, I'm leaning towards rust...) called cuprate. Not sure how complete.

Yep, #cuprate has an irc room now also

ty

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> In monerod how can i get the output indexes of the outputs in a tx? I don't understand the json in print_tx

<r​ucknium:monero.social> unkn8wn69: IIRC, perform a cumulative sum on the key offsets of each `j` ring from `tx.json$vin[[j]]$key$key_offsets` : github.com/Rucknium/misc-research/b…Ring-Size/xmr-ring-gathering.R#L265

<r​ucknium:monero.social> That's R syntax. Yours will be different. Double-check your work.

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Thank you

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> I want to learn more about decoys etc. I'm trying to analyze some outputs just for fun and learning

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> And to see how long to wait to have my inputs mixed in many tx

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Cool if there would be some general approximation of time for x mixings of an input

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Someone said this could be done

<k​owalabearhugs-:matrix.org> You might be interested in this decoy scanner, github.com/pokkst/monero-decoy-scanner

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> That's what am using rn

<r​ucknium:monero.social> That was me in #monero-community:monero.social .

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> I looked up some random output from about a month ago did a fullscan and saw 8 usages of it as inputs. 5 of them are 10+ input tx's so probably pool payouts. Crazy to see IRL how inputs can be somewhat (not deterministically) traced one or two steps

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> After that ig it gets very blurry..

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Waiting for fcmp to fix all this

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Ig sgp's new company is doing just what I did with some more heuristics and all combined into a tool. I still not understand his general motivation. Should this be a platform to show the community how monero can be somewhat broken like the mini series breaking monero. Or is this just a bait for money from the feds because there is really not many firms that do xmr tracing ig

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Referring to moonstoneresearch ^^