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Guest56
hi
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Guest56
Are there any resources containing the actual math used in Monero?
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Guest56
The most optimal resource would be a Python script showing how various cryptographic primitives work.
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Guest56
If there is anyone who really knows the math, please let me know. I am looking at the src on github, but all the c/c++ code heavily obfuscates what is going on.
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m-relay
<rucknium:monero.social> Guest56: This may be enough:
web.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf
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Guest56
m-relay that looks like a good start!
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Guest56
I read there was a critical bug which also was present in CryptoNote and various other CT based coins, allowing double spending. IIRC the exploit relied on changing the preimage of a transaction in a certain way that would allow up to 8 double spends, again this is fixed by now, but I wondered why it would allow 8 double spends, not more or less.
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Guest56
The bug maybe has the name: "invariant failure" or "burn bug"
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m-relay
<rucknium:monero.social> Burn bug is different from double spending AFAIK. Here's the patched double spend vulnerability:
getmonero.org/2017/05/17/disclosure…in-cryptonote-based-currencies.html
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Guest56
Thanks.
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Guest56
Who is the author of getmonero.org?
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Guest56
Probably maintained by the developer of Monero?
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Guest56
I assume: Nicolas van Saberhagen
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m-relay
<rucknium:monero.social> getmonero.org is maintained by the Monero Core Team. It's the most official website
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m-relay
<rucknium:monero.social> No, not maintained by him
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m-relay
<rucknium:monero.social> For more questions like this, you can ask in #monero
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Guest56
m-relay thanks again
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moneromooo
Nicolas van Saberhagen is (one of) the presumed author of cryptonote, from which monero forked. He was never involved in monero AFAIK.
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moneromooo
I think he was involved in bytecoin, the first currency that got created from cryptonote.
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geonic
moneromooo: any opinion on who should be the next website maintainer
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geonic
there are a few proposals up
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moneromooo
Not Nicolas van Saberhagen.
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geonic
(:
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moneromooo
Not me.
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geonic
Diego?
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moneromooo
That's about the size of it.
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moneromooo
Is that... rehrar ?
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geonic
yes. The other candidate is monerobull
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moneromooo
I have no particular opinion on these two.
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geonic
and rottenwheel if we count the trolls
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geonic
ok
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moneromooo thanks, AFAIK the Github of CryptoNote was forked from Bytecoin which then moved to another Github
github.com/bcndev/bytecoin
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geonic
thank you
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moneromooo
Not rottenwheel. Too hard to guess the likelihood of malice.
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m-relay
<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> geonic calling someone troll. Another one that needs a mirror!
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IDK if CryptoNote is maintained anymore and if bytecoin is useful.
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moneromooo
AFAIK bytecoin is not useful, it was a scam. Cryptonote evolved a "easily fork your own bytecoin clone" tool, which made it sonewhat popular.
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moneromooo
your own cryponote clone, I mean.
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moneromooo
CN did get a fair amount of updates after monero forked from it.
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CTCL_FAILURE
Hm, so CryptoNote should also allow me to fork my own coin, right?
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moneromooo
In any case, I believe monero to be *far* more advanced that cryptonote now, so I don't think CN is useful unless you wnat to tinker/learn.
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moneromooo
Yes.
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CTCL_FAILURE
Only to learn.
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moneromooo
Then CN is the best one to use, it's simpler, only basic ring sigs.
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CTCL_FAILURE
Obviously Monero is way advanced with all the resouces 10 years later lol.
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CTCL_FAILURE
I'll fork CN and look at the code.
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Are there resources on how to build CN and test things like signing a transaction?
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m-relay
<jeffro256:monero.social> *taps room banner*
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I know, I know, it was worth a try though.
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CTCL_FAILURE
How do stealth keys technically work?
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m-relay
<jeffro256:monero.social> Good question for #monero room
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... Is this not for devs?
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Can someone define what is suitable for devs?
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CTCL_FAILURE
I am asking about Ed25519 scheme here, not the fundamentals...
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m-relay
<jeffro256:monero.social> this room is for development, not general information
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m-relay
<starlingfarchecker:monero.social> element noob here. How does one join the #monero room.
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CTCL_FAILURE
I don't know if this works but can you click on " #monero "?
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m-relay
<rucknium:monero.social> starlingfarchecker: Search for monero in the monero.social matrix server or click this: #monero:monero.social
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m-relay
<starlingfarchecker:monero.social> Thank you 😊