<e​oli:matrix.org> hello，when can we use Carrot/FCMP++ on mainnet ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> this question hurts my feelings

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> After testnet

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no ETA

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> The original plan was testnet on january, then a testnet was supposed tobe launch this may but a recent audit have not concluded positively on one of the component being used

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> so their is a lot of uncertainty at the moment

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> best case scenario: FCMP++ mainnet Q4/2025. But more likely Q1/2026

<e​oli:matrix.org> I'm so sorry

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> don't be, i was joking

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> q2/2026

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nioc has a bet our for july '26

<e​oli:matrix.org> Thank you for your reply. I do love the new view key🥳

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> is there some way to publicially prove that a certain amount of monero was burned in a transaction, without creating blackball enotes? I was thinking you could easily this with the coinbase or fee transaction, but it would require that you mine the block yourself or trust a miner.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monerobull @monerobull:monero.social

<j​effro256:monero.social> Depends on what exactly you meany by "blackball enotes", but you could send to onetime address of all 0s, then reveal the amount commitment opening. A onetime address of all 0s isn't a valid ed25519 point, so it won't be picked up as a decoy for others' ring signatures

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> I missed this. Is there a link?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Link to what

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> the audit mentioned, or more information about it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It was explained in last MRL meeting

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I think Diego Salazar is working on wrapping up the current audit result as of now but it will continue regardless

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but CS will continue it regardless*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> monero-project/meta #1204

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> logs

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> thank you

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ```

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> < b​randon:cypherstack.com > write our own. Without proofs to fall back on, and without a consensus on the team, we did not endorse it.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> < b​randon:cypherstack.com > Having said that, work on divisors at CS is continuing, at least for now. Finality on our decision was due to our impression of timeline requirements at Monero.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> < d​iego:cypherstack.com > also clarification that "unable to write our own" was due to lack of time, not lack of skill

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ```

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > due to lack of time, not lack of skill

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> SKILL 100

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> TIME 17

<c​orpodog:matrix.org> I'm curious, how many hours do you guys dedicate to monero project dev? I guess nobody does this fulltime since it's open source. I might be wrong of course, I'm new here

<c​orpodog:matrix.org> I'm also interfacing with open source for the first time actually

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> There are multiple full-time devs

<c​orpodog:matrix.org> Ah ok, so in this case they are paid by sponsors? How does it work?

<c​orpodog:matrix.org> It's just curiosity

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> most probably anywhere from 5-60hrs per week, depending on the week

<c​orpodog:matrix.org> I know the main dev behind redis for example was hired and paid by vmware just to work on the open source project

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> the project itself is full time, i dont think ive ever seen it slow down

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Some are paid via crowdfunding, some dont raise funds

<c​orpodog:matrix.org> wow

<c​orpodog:matrix.org> I respect this so much it's insane

<c​orpodog:matrix.org> I will never be able to dedicate that many hours, but monero intrigues me a lot and I hope I can dedicate some hours during my week from now on! I'm now on a pause from personal projects for at least 3 months. I hope they will be enough to contribute a bit!