anyone know how to bug miningpoolstats.stream/monero to get p2pool in there?

If you want huge pages in WSL, you need to upgrade to WSL2.

dism.exe /online /enable-feature /featurename:VirtualMachinePlatform /all /norestart

wsl --set-default-version 2

Still don't recommend it at this point since you can compile for Windows now.

for miningpoolstats.stream/monero they have a submit form at the bottom

XvB: "for miningpoolstats.stream/monero they have a submit form at the bottom" gingeropolous I put the pool api url in there days ago.

squeaky wheel

ah. "It will be manually verified and added to the list if public API can be identified."

xmrvsbeast.com/stats_mod this is the api syntax the site expects, anything else and they will have to manually adjust to make it work properly

okay, so i (or someone) has to press buttons to make p2pool.io/api/pool/stats looks like xmrvsbeast.com/stats_mod

in the githubs

well wait. i dunno.

well if you submit a new pool with the expected api syntax it will get added quickly, otherwise not so quickly

ah.

we do need p2pool represented there, want to see it climb to the top :)

I imagine there will be more than 1 instance of a p2pool

If multiple wallet address per instance is supported then we might see others pop up

does p2pool need custom daemon/wallet software? or can I just use the regular ones

I'm trying to troubleshoot "JSONRPCRequest failed to parse response, result = 24" after trying to connect to my AUR monerod with both AUR p2pool and compiled on windows

yes custom monerod as per instructions linked at top of page

disclaimer: I have not attempted to run p2pool cause I am clueless

yes oyu need monerod from github.com/SChernykh/monero

and I assume there isnt an AUR package for that like there is with p2pool-git... unless its part of it

no, it is just p2pool, you will have to build monerod yourself, at this point

so the aur package only does half the work, rip

I made the AUR package BTW. If you have questions I can answer them.

Yes it is only the p2pool part.

pacman -S monerod cmake boost unbound gtest ccache doxygen graphviz qt5-tools

will give you everything you need to compile monerod

abberant: the only other part that needs doing is the special build of monerod.

just follow the instructions on the p2pool github

You can pull xmrig from AUR as well.

alright, I installed the dependencies XvB listed except for monerod cause it didnt exist, I have the monerod package since it doesnt exist, but I have the monero package so I figured it'd be fine, then I followed the rest of the steps and it looks like the compiling finished but there was some "Error" stuff even after trying to troubleshoot with resyncing dependencies and other small things, I can't seem to find where monerod would be

assuming it finished and didn't break

sorry should be monero not monerod

pulls in the release plus more libs you will need

in build/Linux/p2pool-api-v0.17/release/bin I got most of the executables but not monerod

so it is pacman -S monero cmake boost unbound gtest ccache doxygen graphviz qt5-tools

yep, got all those

make sure you follow the monerod build steps exactly as on the p2pool github page

Under the ubuntu section for monerod

"Warning: Could not load "/usr/lib/graphviz/libgvplugin_gdk.so.6" - It was found, so perhaps one of its dependents was not. Try ldd."

I get this with graphviz, it a concern?

Looks like it

then monerod is under ../monero/build/Linux/p2pool-api-v0.17/release/bin

XvB: yeah, it was missing in there so there must be another issue

some old form post says to try installing gtk2 and it fixed it so gonna try to rebuild

you should delete the monero git repo you have and clone fresh

yep

git clone --recursive github.com/SChernykh/p2pool

sorry, git clone --recursive github.com/SChernykh/monero

will not build properly unless exact steps used

I'm following the steps under "monerod binary compatible with p2pool:" under ubuntu, after installing the dependencies ofc

ok

I just did this on Arch 2 days ago but looks like submodules were added since then so maybe I should retry it.

what about making a pkg for p2pool-monerod? people are having issues with building it

now "monero/build/Linux/p2pool-api-v0.17/release/bin" is empty :/

same looking errors after compile

How long do you think it would take for sech1's changes to be merged and released in mainline monerod?

it might take months for a new monerro release that includes the changes

I thought it would all be included in the latest... but no luck on that

Give me a minute and let me test to see if I get the same issues. I'll consider making another package.

that would be convenient for updating

I appreciate all of your help btw

or deploying new nodes

np, we need more miners on p2pool and it will not happen if it take 5 hours to set it up

are multiple block reward addresses a new thing? I assume thats why only gui/cli and monerujo support them?

Ok I just built monerod again and it worked for me. "ls build/Linux/p2pool-api-v0.17/release/bin/" shows all the correct binaries.

I'm guessing you might still be missing some dependency.

same

I'm searching to see if I can find anything.

I can try going through the ubuntu dependencies and see if I have the equivalents

I'm going to try making an AUR package for sech1's monerod to see if I can find out the full list of depends here. That way I can build it in clean chroot's that don't link back to my system libraries.

awesome

If it works I'll share it or at least give you the full dependency list so you should be able to build it.

keep me updated if you remember, thanks again for your community service 👍️

no problemo!

Were you able to install p2pool with p2pool-git aur package ok abberant ?

yeah, I didn't have a node to connect it to obviously but it seemed fine and functioned the same as my compile on windows

Ok cool. I just wanted to make sure that one worked too. I think you are the first one to test it/build it besides myself so I'm glad to hear it.

gotta love the aur 😎

If you haven't heard of the "paru" tool on aur you should look into it. Really really good.

Makes installing anything a breeze.

wasnt paru featured on dt or something?

I've stuck with yay, but I'd honestly rather use a rust program than go

I'll try it out either way

"yay -S paru" I think should work. But I haven't used yay in so long I don't remember.

can you remove the binaries after makepkg?

I think paru has cleanup commands. But it keeps a cache around for building later.

so does yay, but I usually clear cache for ocd :(

well assuming its functionally similar if not better than yay I'm gonna switch to paru cause I hate that go dependency and I actually use rust

good tip

Yup it has been featured on the Rust and Archlinux subreddits before. That's how I learned of it.

abberant[m]: "are multiple block reward addresses a new thing? I assume thats why only gui/cli and monerujo support them?" early transactions used to be broken up into certain equal denominations before RingCT was implemented in order to make transactions less easy to identify by amount. At that time, coinbase transactions regularly had multiple outputs. At some point a change was made that causes wallets to only scan for

the first coinbase output and so the node change only reverts that change.

cool, thanks

Look at block 1024's coinbase for example:

(any block from that time period is fine. I just picked a nice round number.)

I learned something new

Have you installed base-devel, abberant ? I'm just running through different options here. I don't know if this is it.

looks like it

abberant[m]: meaning yes, I did have it, or at least It said I was reinstalling all of the packages I could see so

I'll try rebuilding again in a bit for fun since I screwed around with package syncing cause paru

Mine is building successfully even using a new PKGBUILD, but I'm not sure why it is working. I don't think I included all of the dependencies.

I'm guessing the submodules include dependencies it needs.

I'm getting off for the night but I'll be back on later. If you happen to still need help I can try and come up with something. Maybe another aur package would be helpful just to remove these types of variables.

alright

karce: It compiled successfully on one of my other home servers, I just scp'd the bin and gonna try and use those for the time being, hope it wont break

the other server had a very similar setup excluding hardware

also I can't compile p2pool manually either but aur works

after more inspection it looks like I'm missing a lib called gss, I remember seeing that in ubuntu packages but can't find arch equivalent

"/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgss" << determined from this, trying to read into it more, looks like stuff with gcc and linkers that I have no clue about

PPLNS window = 2160 blocks (+90 uncles, 10 orphans)

damn

3 gh/s again

can you guys ease up a bit? i'm still stacking over here

libgss, required for p2pool is not in arch repo nor in aur

get it @ ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gss

extract, run ./configure && make && sudo make install

echo "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib" >> ~/.bashrc && source ~/.bashrc

well I shouldnt have to worry about it with the p2pool aur package, I spent time trying to remedy that only to find out that its not the same issue with the monerod compile :/

monerod didnt compile on my old amd system either, I don't have a large enough sample size to determine if it has something to do with hardware or software

and the xmrig wouldnt connect to my p2pool connected to my monerod, but I assume thats a seperate issue

all of it is just... a tangle

woah did I just get monerod to compile on the main system?

I didn't even do anything, this is adding to the confusion........

if oyu have less than 4gb ram compile monerod with make -j1 instead of the -j$(nproc)

all the machines have plenty

JSONRPCRequest failed to parse response, result = 24

^ p2pool giving this tho

you sure you are running the correct monerod? make sure the version is v0.17.2.3-9c82593b5

what is your p2pool command line

yes its the correct monerod

XvB: the default

p2pool --host 127.0.0.1 --rpc-port 18081 --zmq-port 18083 --wallet YOUR_WALLET_ADDRESS --stratum 0.0.0.0:3333 --p2p 0.0.0.0:37889 --addpeers 65.21.227.114:37889

except with my wallet in

I've also tried with the host being my external ip, I've port forwarded 18080, 18081, 18083, and 37889 for testing

and done the startup thingy with minimal options like just my wallet address and just wallet/stratum/p2p since I think the rest are defaults

and my firewall is disabled for testing

using the custom daemon, aur p2pool, and xmrig git from aur, which also doesnt connect to the p2pool node if you couldnt guess

and you are starting monerod with ./monerod --zmq-pub tcp://127.0.0.1:18083 ?

yes, but I just found that out a few minutes ago and need to try port forwarding 18083 again just in case

yeah, doesn't seem to be helping

are you doing all of this on the same machine? or connecting to different one for monerod?

same machine

I ssh in and use screens

not sure then, everything looks OK, the only thing that might be messed up is the p2pool aur, I have not tried to use it yet

oo

I do have a username and password on the node actually

let me try to disable that

ok console is being spammed I assume its syncing now 😓

I would say that was a dumb mistake if it wasnt hidden between like 10 other problems

any way to login to the node with p2pool yet, probably not

not sure, but doubt it

do you know which ports I need input/output? otherwise I'll figure it out myself

18080 and 37889

is 37889 tcp in and out I assume?

yes

I've added p2pool.io/api/stats_mod just like xmrvsbeast has and submitted the url to miningpoolstats.stream/monero

Hmm, not sure what's happened with mine, I have updated to latest version (git pull, make), I can see it indicates in my log

2021-09-08 08:14:47.6770 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444780, diff 100000, effort 100.001%

but my status reads

SideChain status

Main chain height = 2444782

Main chain hashrate = 2.917 GH/s

Side chain height = 68717

Side chain hashrate = 40.671 MH/s

PPLNS window = 2160 blocks (+86 uncles, 0 orphans)

Your shares = 0 blocks (+0 uncles, 0 orphans)

Block reward share = 0.000% (0.000000000000 XMR)

I was getting a fairly regular payout with 2 on 03, 1 on 04, 3 on 05 and 5 on 06 but suddenly seems to have stopped, with nothing yesterday

share with diff 100000 can be discarded, it's not a real one

these shares get found when you restart p2pool node and it's not synced yet

ah OK, fair enough

current seed list on seeds.p2pool.io are 65.21.227.114, 168.119.137.28

nice to have more than one seed now and a way to update them

The seeds can only be used for default sidechain

Also they must use default port 37889 and have it open

and have a fast Internet connection

yup, saw

hopefully also static ips :)

the second seed is from xmrig

oh? nice

if someone else here hosts a fast node in a datacenter, I can add it

thinking about it, have two running already on a cluster but they don't have the ability to open ports

I'll get back once a third one is setup

where can I see the current monero tx fee?

for the pool or what you transact?

transaction

xmrchain.net

Fee per byte: 0.000000005821

If you combine multiple p2pool payouts together (N inputs/2 outputs tx), the resulting tx will use ~512 bytes per input, fee will be 0.8% of your mined funds in the worst case (all payouts are ~0.0004 XMR)

if you move just one 0.0004 XMR payout, fee will be ~2%. But I don't see a point of moving such small amount.

if you get bigger payouts on average, fees will be proportionally smaller %

p2pool payouts themselves have 0 XMR fee

but I cant controll the payout right?

No

if anyone needs a monerod node compat with p2pool, p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com

XvB p2pool.io/api/stats_mod does it look correct?

how long until miningpoolstats adds it?

Like 2 days I think

"automated" my ass

they should have FAQ for pool admins, with API examples

I just looked at one of the existing pools stats pages and copied

when the pools are offline or not responding it the site shows what api url is being used

heh, we are at 42 MH/s

its funny to see new miners crying about the xmrig minimum 1% fee and telling us that they won't join monero and tell us to go to nice places

you can compile it yourself and put it to 0%, and just donate whenever you like to the devs

its too conventient to download the pre-built binaries

XvB well, I copied supportxmr API because I know their API url, but it didn't help

wait what, gminer and cryptodredge arent open-source?

almost every miner is not open-source

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

okay that im mad about, the forced 1% fee

I'll have to learn binary reverse-engineering then and remove it that way

you can kind of get around it by some /etc/hosts manipulation to forward fee host to yourself :)

ah yes, the trickster

also how can i use this site? workers.xmrig.info

what attribute i need to pass to xmrig

you need to add workers there via what you configure on xmrig

port to bind to for api, and access token if you provided one mightysnowman

see xmrig.com/docs/miner/command-line-options#api

probably also need --http-no-restricted

how to generate the token for it

config doesnt specify anything about it but random gibberish in the config as token gives errors

mightysnowman: set anything random?

here have one, randomness as a service mightysnowman : f50rPvRnOLQpqdDIftbCLaqkOSnYl8Z6udK0yTH9PvLSP4CqBr8Akm28t4QT6KN

would recommend you generate your own

oh deem nvm, I was missing " " xd

the token wasnt the problem

XvB: might use that node as a test, thanks

sure, that is why I put it up ;)

got a few of my own but bootstraping new nodes takes a bit

2021-09-08 10:12:06.319 E Transaction spends at least one output which is too young

wat is this daemon log

just checks working proper

it's related to transactions in monero mempool

how long does it take for the miners amount on p2pool site to update

was going to check if im properly connected by checking the p2pool worker count increasing

I believe that depends on different shares in current PPLNS threshold mightysnowman

oh okay

nice, super low effort block 2444888

0.35% nice

last lowest was 3.60%

wait, 20m, 3m, 2m ago?

three nice blocks

was 2444888 actually accepted?

I am seeing: P2Pool submit_block: daemon returned error: 'unknown error', template id = 0, nonce = 0, extra_nonce = 0

no :(

it was ee4110829b5422ec8d49be1357cb6aefd6094887c2642090443d3cb4e83cf870

no nvm

yes

lol

got wrong hash

is p2pool paying off for people with like under 10kh/s?

it should average out at same payment rate as a pool

2444888 seems to be fine

p2pool.io is showing wrong hash for block 2444888 ?

should be 90c511bccf92dd47a345ac33ba60828bd4efb9f5a7167fbe7086e9219c87b752 I think

4d894506da72cfa8de4a2f806edb8af977ca6eb384e47a86d41f45e3315b556f

check on xmrchain.net

oh sorry that the tx hash

is anyone with Apple M1 here?

abberant: Good to hear you were able to compile. I removed libgss from the AUR package cmakelist because arch doesn't have it, or maybe it does with libgssglue. Didn't seem to affect the build though. I should have probably remembered that.

"No. Brew doesn’t like M1 Macs." someone stated in xvb subreddit

someone at least built it successfully

oh ok

but RandomX needs fixing. xmrig fixed it long time ago, but there are too many differences to just copy-paste the fix

and I don't have M1 to test

I think hyc compiled it on M1 too but he had other problems with it

He was getting a lot of rejects.

Peer list size = 61, people connecting but not mining...

hmm? connecting to monerod or p2pool

p2pool

Peer list size = 60

new SideChain blocks are coming

ohh

that's quite a few blocks mined in a short period

once every 2-5s

I have not found a single share in 2 days :( the diff is killing me

Set a manual diff

won't do mandelbug

difficulty of side chain cannot be changed

will still not find shares

what is your expected "solo mining" time CzarekNakamoto[m

I set my diff in xmrig and am finding shares. used HR*30 to calculate

take that and divide by 2160, that should more or less be your expected average time

2.5 days with 2 kh/s

to find a pool share

yes mandelbug you find shares but not SHARE FOUND on p2pool for all those

aka

doesn't get added to PPLNS window

but it reports nicely yes

p2pool difficulty is ~850 times smaller than Monero network diff, so divide solo time by 850

DataHoarder: 5.4 years

we will need a L3 p2pool solution that allows miners to pool HR to find p2pool shares

;)

if this is correct: monero.how/monero-mining-calculator

that is for entire pool sech1, not for individual miners right? I mean the time they might find a share in this pool

it's the time to find a p2pool share (850 times less than to find a Monero block solo)

so ~3 days

Is changing the difficulty on client side affect the actual shares that are found?

no CzarekNakamoto[m, just smoother reporting

ah right, that math would only apply if the entire network was in p2pool right sech1 ?

also yay height 70000 on sidechain

and btw sech1, seed node on 13.69.194.86:37889 p2pool-seed.northeurope.cloudapp.azure.com

what's the connection bandwidth there?

Is 20mbps enough for a node or no?

if yes `192.243.103.185:37889` is also available

static IP as well

sech1: azure, checking the precise numbers, one sec. inbound shouldn't be limited

should be 1000/1000 sech1

static ip, but also p2pool-seed.northeurope.cloudapp.azure.com points to it

so 13.69.194.86:37889 ?

yes, correct

ok, added

will be up for the foreseeable future

growing disk size of it, forgot to do it :^)

sech1: how is this software different from Bitcoin p2p pool mining?

it's for Monero :)

(and other differences, it's made from scratch)

Yep I know all that

Bitcoin p2pool is old and written in Python

and it doesn't have uncle blocks

Interesting

uncle blocks are nice given 10s sidechain block times

How long does it usually take to build monerod for Windows...? following instructions from github and it's been like 30mins. (Like 87% done).

it takes a while unless you select only monerod target, but that's advanced

also check RAM to see it's not going to swap

DataHoarder Yeah it's building everything not just monerod. I'll just be patient. Seems to be doing it's thing... just weird cause I built for linux on low spec VPS in like 3mins lol.

maybe you did not build dependencies as well QuickBASIC

but just the monero part

while windows needs all the dependencies

thank packaging systems :)

Ah that makes sense actually.

yeet found my first share

after total of 24 hours

Gratz.

worth 0.0003xmr

meanwhile I could've earned 0.0033 every 24 hours on any other pool

I've been mining 36 hours or so with 4.1 kH/s and haven't gotten any in that time. My last share was days ago.

seems unfair so far, let's see if it 'evens out' after some weeks

mightysnowman: "worth 0.0003xmr" keep in mind that you can get that payout multiple times from a single share. Assuming we find multiple blocks in the PPLNS window before your share expires.

we'll see

I got 6Kh/s and running it a couple days now. 0.004 xmr in rewards.

The other day I got three payouts from a single share because the pool found three blocks within 6 hours.

People need to stop worrying so much about variance.

The current p2pool hashrate is relatively low so variance will be a bit all over the place until it grows.

worth nothing yet till a block is mined indeed mightysnowman

Over the long-haul it will statistically average out, always.

not worried about variance much, yep, averages

You will earn the same (theoretically more due to lower fees) using p2pool as any large centralized pool.

lucky here that since I started p2pool I have gotten payouts on each block mined

though right now getting some awful luck with my shares

my shares are usually late and pool gets unlucky and then again I get a share D:

but eh, it's an experiment

well, it's a working experiment, the best kind of experiment

like, personal effort% currently is 728%

sorry, I took all your luck :P

had nice luck the other day anyhow

LULS

talk of the devil

just found 3 shares back to back

StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444978, diff 398471624, effort 16.063%

StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444979, diff 398360913, effort 1.883%

Pretty good luck so far today :)... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…21673b5a41fe3b7df808cae15362846869c)

StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444979, diff 399528341, effort 10.138%

hah

4 back to back

awww yisss

foreshadowing of 300% effort

Why is the diff there so low Seth ?

Hmm, could have been false shares while syncing, I did just switch to a new host

But I'm also setting custom diffs for workers and not sure if that gets reflected there

exactly jaska087

Ah, yeah, fake shares.

yeah while syncing ones

Good shares from other host before switching:... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…8a7de8fe1809bc4810d255359c51047bd8d)

look at the big numbers

Yeah.

yep, those are proper

Didn't catch that before :)

Yeah that one looks right. That's sortof what I have.

shame that while I am finding some now it was like 4h without shares, some got trimmed already :<

all about averages

yup

110 shares so far :)

`202312:NOTICE 2021-09-07 06:58:26.9432 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444019, diff 324171014, effort 110.841%

280185:NOTICE 2021-09-08 03:05:14.0630 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444643, diff 383619554, effort 117.696%

308548:NOTICE 2021-09-08 10:22:47.1630 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444853, diff 423796145, effort 37.561%

`

* `202312:NOTICE 2021-09-07 06:58:26.9432 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444019, diff 324171014, effort 110.841%

280185:NOTICE 2021-09-08 03:05:14.0630 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444643, diff 383619554, effort 117.696%

308548:NOTICE 2021-09-08 10:22:47.1630 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444853, diff 423796145, effort 37.561% `

many 100% cause I was not setting custom difficulty on clients during those times

peerlist size 65. we've grown

Would something like this work to beep console:

tail -f p2pool.log | grep "SHARE FOUND" && echo -e '\a'

Don't have any recent shares to test.

I got no payouts in past 24hrs

4 the previous day

no, the && will not finish QuickBASIC

but you can do an xargs for "each line" found

Okay. Thanks DataHoarder

tail -f p2pool.log | grep "SHARE FOUND" | xargs -L1 echo -e '\a'

^ QuickBASIC

can probably have webhooks on last line too

if you want to get fancy

Or monitor the log with a tool like Zabbix 😉 But that's a lot more complex haha

I just look at actual cold storage wallet with view keys

it's what matters in the end

shiny ⛏️ icon

DataHoarder Perfect thank you. SSH on Windows does audble console beep so I can just stop staring at it and do my work.

ran that on a host that has a good old beeper, sounds nicely

<--- You should assume b/c my handle, but I love a good beeper.

have done too many tools that use beep with tones

not many monero blocks right now

Yeah windows console beeps in PS are lame tones like this one (Run in Powershell) [console]::beep(500,300)

Not a good old fashioned actual PC Speaker.

ZMQReader failed to to bind port 37891 for ZMQ publisher, error Address already in use

Trying to run multiple p2pool instances, seems to work fine anyway, using different p2p port for it too.

yeah should run on different ports / ips each one

for curiosity I have added p2pool_peers.txt as a downloadable file on p2pool-seed.northeurope.cloudapp.azure.com

though now existing methods + dns seed should get you working fine

there is no pruning of the peer.txt list, I think

hyc it looks like I fixed it for M1: i.imgur.com/lPVKVwv.png

block!

nice, and I had 4 shares in the window

which is 2x of the expected

sneaked in an extra share about 20 seconds before block was found, heh

oh joy, another block, zero shares ;P

oh nice, moar blocks

how do uncles get counted towards 2160 block share?

do they "slide" other blocks away, "increase" the block count total for the range, or do some custom reward method?

PPLNS window is based on block height, so all heights from [top...top-2159] count

if there are uncle blocks, there will be more than 2160 blocks in the window

right now we have 73 uncles, so there are 2233 blocks in the window and it actually is ~6 hours 12 minutes because of that

also, uncle blocks are worth 20% less (miner who mined them as uncles takes these 20%)

And I guess you could just have a lot of uncles if stars align

makes sense, thanks

Maybe detail on README how uncle blocks get paid out, at least %

I thought everyone knows it, it's the same in Ethereum

sech1 is it possible to have so many uncles that payout is too small to spend?

i don't really understand uncles. i get the gist, but they are determined / validated etc. isn't clear to me

but *how* they are determined etc

one valid block with same height gets picked over the other, then later blocks can add blocks for same old height as "uncles"

preferred path gets mined on top, uncles get noted (and validated at the old height)

it gets more complex but I'm not probably the best one to explain it

when two blocks are mined at the same height, only one can continue the chain. The other one will be included as an uncle block

ah, so its really a race of latency. and one or the other is decided by ?

it's not decided

if node gets block A first, it will be mining on block A

block B at the same height will be mined as an uncle

other nodes can get A and B in different order

So my share could be in an uncle or not depending on which p2pool node solves the block first?

i don't think uncles spawn little blebs

It sounded like he was saying that nodes could be mining either block a or block b at the same time, wouldn't that mean that they consider the other block the uncle?

you could be an uncle or be main

most common case is no uncles, but uncles can happen

right now

PPLNS window = 2160 blocks (+71 uncles, 1 orphans)

Your shares = 11 blocks (+1 uncles, 0 orphans)

Ah bob's your uncle.

I see all the TEST_MEMPOOL_PICKING_ALGORITHM ifdefs, and the "Actual run time is 0.02-0.05 seconds on real full blocks. It's too slow and uses too much memory to be practical."

maybe default picking method can be used, and this in the background then to replace simple picking method?

haven't delved further into it to see how much better it is but maybe it's really not worth it :)

the difference is literally less than 0.000001 XMR, not worth it

I only used it to tweak the default picking algorithm and it's very good, sometimes it finds a perfect solution

aha, nice

maybe worth in a future with different fee markets than today, but yeah, that small difference is not worth it

oh no, one of my shares got orphaned

many blocks received at once , hmm

hmm

my node didn't even receive your share with id 36a047e7522162563c7bf82fd2e6f0b56cac5deddcf8bedd7d136e77c2ab0303

oh, I know why

there were 3 Monero blocks in half a minute, so p2pool nodes didn't relay some shares because they were on different Monero heights

yep, saw it on another node, where it caught up slower

about the same time interval

Is there a monero block reward chart somewhere?

Cant find one

chart, as in, how much previous blocks earned?

Yes

not aware of one at the moment, but should not be hard to export data or make one

oh, I see new changes, including --host that can resolve DNS

anyone got iptables settings for machine running node and pool, I've spent hours and still get p2pserver not receiving new blocks while my monerod does, this is my current config and I'm not sure all of them are necessary, but they should be... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…33d5ebc5af39d239b163dc9e4b3fc909755)

you drop all output packets

OUTPUT default policy should be ACCEPT

btw every so often it seems to catch up with these settings

sech1: As I’m beta testing this software on a VPS (mining to it with a 3950x getting 20k/s) how often do you want me (us) to git pull and recompile the binaries? How often do you want me (us) to submit Error/Warnings from the logs?

sech1: doesnt it drop output packets besides what my rules are?

I see new commits every day and I’m unsure how often you want me to include them

just update every day

Ok

right now its working actually with these rules, idk if one snuck through to persist because of the cstate rule or what

Do you want me to submit the log error/warnings only

abberant you should also allow input/output packets on localhost

If there is funny business?

most changes coming are improvements or fixes for people that have something not working, so every day should be fine

iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT

same for OUTPUT

alright

have been reporting curious or interesting logs here at least, then I see a silent commit fixing or improving the cause :)

sech1: any rules you notice I don't need? I don't think I need all 4 of those ports forwarded and input and output

port 18081 is RPC port, you only need it on localhost if you don't use this node from outside

same for 18083 (ZMQ port)

oh yeah I need to mention, I have friends who use the node outside lan and are going to connect their p2pools to mine

then you need all ports open, just add --restricted-rpc to monero command line

(also bind to 0.0.0.0 or whatever public address you want)

plus --confirm-external-bind

if p2pool doesn't receive new blocks then it can't connect to zmq (18083)

DataHoarder: yep, got those in the node settings

sech1: does it need input for that I would assume? I figured it did all the connecting to other nodes over 37889

welp I'll get to that issue once I figure out how to get it to compile again, having same issues as last night which were fixed by seemingly luck

you have this port open already, double check that you run correct monerod version and have "--zmq-pub tcp://0.0.0.0:18083" in command line for it

yeah, I was just checking for if I had to disable it, but I guess I do need it

Would love any feedback before I share broadly!

very uppercase, I guess it's all CSS

sethsimmons add a disclaimer that a new wallet must be created for mining because wallet addresses are public on p2pool. Use it for p2pool only!

DataHoarder: Yeah it's not supposed to be all uppercase haha

sech1: Ah, yes, good callout!

p2pool doesn't log addresses anywhere, but it's not hard for "interested parties" to add this functionality

it's a must because of privacy not due to technical reasons, so there's less question about it

yeah already saw how it could be done sech1

and I guess mined blocks on-chain have it on extra data?

p2pool has to know wallet addresses to create coinbase transactions

extra data only has the hash of p2pool block (32 bytes)

ah

wallet addresses stay on sidechain and get pruned eventually

nice

but active monitoring can still catch all addresses

hmm, I have seen that technically mining to subaddresses can be implemented, there was a long lost PR to main monero repo

yes, but it double the size of coinbase tx

ah

Adding:

` ***NOTE: Be sure to create a new wallet for using with p2pool, and only use a "standard" address starting with a 4, subaddresses are not yet supported.***`

should probably note it's for privacy reasons and not technical, or people might question it

`NOTE: Be sure to create a new wallet for using with p2pool to preserve your privacy, and only use a "standard" address starting with a 4, subaddresses are not yet supported.`

added similar notes WeebDataHoarder/p2pool-compose 328ad82

sethsimmons Good writeup. Let me know when you post it and I'll retweet it or tweet it.

Thanks, will do!

sech1: thanks for adding DNS resolution so quickly :D

p2pool now appears on minexmr.com/pools Hashrate Pie too

right now MO sized

and afaik xmrvs points hashrate to p2pool

I thought MoneroOcean would be larger to be honest

If you go to the coins tab on their website, it says randomx mining only accounts for 21% of their payouts

since its algo switch, like a third is from gpu algos, some for monero, and then the rest is other cpu algos more profitable at the time then monero

it is larger due to profit switching and mining other coins as well, that they later use to buy XMR Epsilon

(or people not switching and just mining something else)

then get paid out in XMR

@XvB:libera.chat: karce I think I figured out why my monerod wouldnt compile on arch, when I run monerod it seems to cache almost all my free memory, and it was probably causing issues with the compiler. Building the package after a reboot or "make -j1" as XvB recommended in the case I had less than 4g of ram, I originally discounted it as I didn't think cache would use that up. Hope someone else can learn from my mistake.

* of ram works, I

across two days, > Average effort = 202.617%

Yay two blocks